Why being a troon isn't treated like a black face?

Because troonerism has broadly convinced the world that it's just like being gay (protip: It's not), and there's vast sums of money to be made in medical industries from it. No one is convinced of transracial besides a few loons and trolls, and the money isn't there.
 
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It's all based on emotion. It's been "decided" that a person can "feel" and "identify as" gender but race cannot be felt or identified into. It makes no logical sense though. Race is somehow non-existent/a social construct but an intrinsic part of a person simultaneously--that simply cannot be identified into, but gender can for some reason. Again, this is all based on the whims of emotion. Race is a taboo/no-no area of discussion, but biological sex/gender isn't.

Which leads to ridiculous beliefs held by some these days that biological sex itself is merely a social construct and the real "science" is that transwomen are identical to people actually born female.
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It's bizarre and doesn't make sense. You don't choose to be black. But you don't choose to be a woman either. Save for extreme cases where you are born with ambiguous genitalia and the doctor chooses wrong, or some loony parent troons out their toddler or tries to raise a theyby, you were always what you were raised as. Being socialised male then suddenly declaring yourself MA'AM does not a woman make.

That's why we have all these rough, aggressive troons that ooze stereotypical toxic masculinity while claiming they are fragile feminine flowers that are triggered at the slightest offense.

I think the worst male personality types are most likely to troon out. There's something really negative and toxic about them that points them in the direction of female masquerade. And the media has now started telling them they are beautiful and valid and real women. Enforcing mental illness, autogynephilia and general terrible personalities is not good. But we can't hurt tranny feelings. We let it go way too far. We should have drawn the line at letting them into female spaces. You can wear a dress and call yourself Mary, but you aren't a woman and need to respect female exclusive spaces. Sadly we didn't do that and now it's too late.
 
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Johan Hulth said:
Because troonerism has broadly convinced the world that it's just like being gay (protip: It's not), and there's vast sums of money to be made in medical industries from it. No one is convinced of transracial besides a few loons and trolls, and the money isn't there.
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There will be money in it if BLM picks up steam enough to create lots of black-only admissions streams to prestigious colleges/jobs/awards/etc.

Just imagine, trenders getting admitted to colleges over actual poor kids because trenders can buy good marks and a ghostwriter for their admissions essays. Coomers popularizing some kind of Tyrone LARP. People blaming their personal failings on others being insensitive to the generational trauma of their black identity. Unkempt hair being called a brave and stunning afro. BLM types coming out as black to escape their white guilt/racism accusations. Pharma companies pushing for tanning/darkening treatments because it "reduces the risk of suicide" and paying for some BS pseudoscientific articles about reduced risk of skin cancer.
 
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Silly comparison. yes this site does document some trans people who don’t exactly carry the torch well. Yes there are no doubt some people who claim to be trans with ulterior motives. But those are the minority.

most trans folks were simply people who were burdened with unjust psychiatric diagnoses, diagnoses that have thankfully been proven false by nearly all respectable scientific literature and the apa/American psychiatric association.

Black face on the other hand? Intentional
Mockery for entertainment purposes.
 
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nearly all respectable scientific literature
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If that's true then how come the best evidence that medical professionals can provide is such shit?
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I was investigating citations in my area's most prominent "evidence-based" resource, specifically what it had about surgical results, and found some garbage-fire articles being cited.

One of the only two available citations couldn't contact half its MTF postop patients less than 6 years later, asked some softball survey questions, and concluded that the surgery was 100% fine and regrets all come from unsupportive family and friends.
It was an old single-centre, single-surgeon study on patient-reported outcomes for penile inversion surgery. Only 32% of the patients participated, but this is waved away as their surgery being so long ago (is this a self-own? 6 years sure is a lot if your life expectancy is shit) that the patients just naturally moved away and lost touch. These were paper surveys only, with no objective criteria and no objective observers. The conclusion drawn from this extremely biased cohort was that there were absolutely no notable surgical complications and that any negative experiences were largely due to lacking positive social support. Perhaps that's the origin of the current affirmation-only model. Furthermore, the surgeon in question is Toby Meltzer, the subject of Toby Meltzer Truth, full of MTF patients reporting botched procedures. It also states he'd been fired from Kaiser for malpractice, though this has not been translated to action against his medical license as per the official physician registries for Arizona and Oregon.
In the other, they measured regret rate as the number of people who called the government back to ask for a reversal surgery. Yeah, just magically reattach the discarded genitals somehow. I'm actually shocked that almost 4% were actually desperate enough to call back.
It was an old study of transgender Scandinavians who underwent state-sponsored surgery. MTF or FTM is not specified but maybe someone else has the historical context. Only 3.8% of the patients called back asking for a reversal surgery. Obviously, this means that only 3.8% regretted it! Definitely not because of anything like suicide, losing faith in the medical system/government, or realizing that the missing tissue is gone forever.
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Also see the attached refutation of the American Association of Pediatrics statement (not the APA technically but it's the same body of scientific literature they're drawing from).
 

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I did it for two weeks straight on a beach in Jamaica. Your point is?
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I guess my point is that front holes can't understand their privilege in the same way that fish can't understand water. I sincerely hope that you don't get raped by a pack of niggers, but I would laugh if it happened.
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Also.."Gasing kikes for Facebook likes"? That's so edgy and really compliments your Hitler avatar. Such big dick energy.
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I just like it for the rhythm and scansion. Like the beloved uncle of humanity, I'm an artist at heart. Plus, I'll take sophomoric edgelord shitposting over humorless twats any day of the week.
 
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The only reason that it's not treated the same is because troons fucking scream at you and try to ruin your life if you don't accept their mental illness. And its all the women in the world right now bring groomed into thinking they have to accept them as real women or they are evil horrible cis women who need to get canceled. Look at this shit my wife showed me the other night
 

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Money.

If there was enough money to be made, selling shoe polish and dread wigs and such other things to fetishistic women and men, you can be sure that transracialism would be the social issue of the moment.
 
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Money.

If there was enough money to be made, selling shoe polish and dread wigs and such other things to fetishistic women and men, you can be sure that transracialism would be the social issue of the moment.
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Part of why transgederism has taken off like it has is because selling HRT drugs and conducting SRS surgery is very lucrative to those involved. The people getting the drugs and surgery will be dependent on them, so that's one customer who will keep on giving you money. Trans people are golden geese for Big Pharma.
 
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You don't need to be a psychologist to understand the mindset. Blackface was created years ago to caricature blacks. Trannyism was also created years ago, not to caricature women, but as an attempt to help mentally ill people, double emphasis on "attempt".
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Because the way people treat blackface is also artificial and irrational.
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This right here honestly, there are seriously other things to worry about more than that. There are twats on Twatter who also mistake coal smear on miners' faces for blackface. Get a life if that shit still hurts you decades after the fact as if you had some sort of retroactively inflicted PTSD.
 
The cultural context surrounding the two is completely different. Blackface is (or was) explicitly used to make fun of black people. Everyone understood that it was a caricature. No one unironically thought, or was expected to think, that people wearing blackface were actually black. So a more appropriate comparison would be between blackface and drag queens. There isn't really a racial equivalent to trannies--while some people have tried (cough rachel dolezal) it hasn't really caught on yet.

Now, even if we compare blackface to drag queens, it's still apparent that one is considered stunning and brave while the other is considered evil and horrible. Why is this? Simple, one of these reinforces traditional white European culture (blackface) while the other subverts it (drag queens). This metric explains nearly every single "culture war" type issue or question that you can imagine and overrides all possible contradictions.
 
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Double standards, when I was attempting to transition I always wondered why gender transitioning was praised but racial transitioning was off limits. Now I realize both aren't possible things.
 
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