Why can't women on dating apps hold a conversation?

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If I didn't have to hold a conversation with dating app "people" to get laid, I wouldnt either

 

[cybertoaster]

That then begs the question what will be the thing or set of things that set off this powder keg?

I guess nothing will do it? the brunt of the cost of all this goes to society and we're living in the fuck-you-got-mine era so nobody cares as long as it isn't a problem for them.

And when it is, what they gonna do? go against dating apps? social media? they got lobbyists, do you?. And besides its not like society its condemning them over this, what little opposition they get nowadays comes from things like election meddling (depending on the side), spreading wrongthink and ironically enough being harmful for the mental health of women, but not men. Nobody cares about privacy either, to name another big issue that gets brushed aside.

If you mean what this leads to I would say just an increase of male suicides, levels of which are already war-level but it still gets brushed off. The rate of man-on-woman violence is actually going down to the point advocates of even more radical feminism have to constantly increase the definition of what violence against women is else their numbers wont add up and support (money) will dry up. These are also the zealots that cannot and will not under any circumstances consider men to be victims of the current system, so the only way to counter them is to turn them into ideologically pariahs condemned by society at large. Good luck doing that when they sit at the top of media, academia and government.

And even if real violence against women goes up and you got a bunch of women getting killed by angry incels or school shootings specifically targeting women those will only be used to further the current narrative rather than wonder why things got so bad.

So in short, we're looking at a social death spiral.

My response rate on like OKCupid is like 30%-40%. I just have impossible standards for myself and for other people so I end up meeting very few back when i was on it. But I like talking with new people, before journalism became a corporate, SJW-infested shitshow it was my dream job. I've had so many long convos with women on dating sites. Weirdly enough they get even more intense when you dont meet them within a short time in some cases, cause then they "trust you" as some friend who isn´t into just getting laid asap and start spilling the beans on their private life like there's no tomorrow in some cases.

That must have been over a decade ago because nowadays women don't want to talk, you have to carry the conversation most of the time.

Also most women consider these apps to be just for hookups and if you don't/can't be physically there then they'll just unmatch/ghost you and move to the next match until they get what they want, its that simple.

 

[TrulyMan]

I guess nothing will do it? the brunt of the cost of all this goes to society and we're living in the fuck-you-got-mine era so nobody cares as long as it isn't a problem for them.

And when it is, what they gonna do? go against dating apps? social media? they got lobbyists, do you?. And besides its not like society its condemning them over this, what little opposition they get nowadays comes from things like election meddling (depending on the side), spreading wrongthink and ironically enough being harmful for the mental health of women, but not men.

If you mean what this leads to I would say just an increase of male suicides, levels of which are already war-level but it still gets brushed off. The rate of man-on-woman violence is actually going down to the point advocates of even more radical feminism have to constantly increase the definition of what violence against women is else their numbers wont add up and support (money) will dry up. These are also the zealots that cannot and will not under any circumstances consider men to be victims of the current system, so the only way to counter them is to turn them into ideologically pariahs who are condemned society at large. Good luck doing that when they sit at the top of media, academia and government.

And even if real violence against women goes up and you got a bunch of women getting killed by angry incels or school shootings specifically targeting women those will only be used to further the current narrative rather than wonder why things got so bad.

So in short, we're looking at a social death spiral.

That must have been over a decade ago because nowadays women don't want to talk, you have to carry the conversation most of the time.

Also most women consider these apps to be just for hookups and if you don't/can't be physically there then they'll just unmatch/ghost you and move to the next match until they get what they want, its that simple.

Like 3 years ago at the latest and I was the one ghosting most of the women. But thats an other issue Ive had my whole life, although not an incel and in a relationship now and then I´ve had moments where I basically volcel myself without really trying to because of various archaic notions of love and relationships. Though Ive kinda grown out of it in the last few years realizing I probably should´ve just said "fuck it" and fucked around more. Again, if you´re truly interested in getting to know new people or getting to "understand" people, then having a conversation, especially online, is very easy. But many people, (perhaps especially guys, due to all the frustration of not getting responses) are not actually looking for that, but instead looking to lure people into thinking that they like them to get something out of it. Alas that is the social game of life in general. I dont so people, incl perhaps women, can sniff that out maybe and then I get more responses? I dont know.

Anyway, I Just watched an episode of JSC with this lacrose player who "accidentally" hit his girlfriend too hard in an argument and killed her.

Apparently they loved each other but were in constant fights, with both of them cheating, him with three girls at once and she with guys in his own sport. Im kinda glad i avoided that shit in high school, because I took stuff like promises way too seriously and might have gone off the rails if shit hit the fan in a particularly bad time. Over time Ive just realized Im never gonna live up to my own extreme ethical standards either, so shit, why look for other people who do?

But I dont push my BS on other people, I just used to ghost them (women esp) when I either I failed some kind of expacation they might have of me or when they failed mine. I guess I was a bit insecure, though sincere and outgoing.



edit: In terms of years and things changing, Id venture to guess Id easily get my response rate up even higher nowdays.
People are so fucking lonely. Like Im lonely, everyone are lonely, even people surrounded by friends and family are lonely.
Everyone present their best, but fake side on social media, everyone are afraid of saying what they really think for fear of being cancelled or ostracized. People move around more, its more globalized, people dont know their neighbors.
Both men and women are yearning to find people to truly connect to.

 

[cybertoaster]

then having a conversation, especially online, is very easy.

Dunno, I been online for a long time and having a conversation nowadays its really hard, everybody seems like they got some form of induced adhd and can't hold a thought let alone express it.

People are so fucking lonely. Like Im lonely, everyone are lonely, even people surrounded by friends and family are lonely.

But many prefer to be alone rather than do the effort to not be, and in this age of unending entertainment on demand its easier for them to remain lazy and alone since the constant stream of content keeps the bad thoughts away.

Everyone present their best, but fake side on social media, everyone are afraid of saying what they really think for fear of being cancelled or ostracized. People move around more, its more globalized, people dont know their neighbors.

I know, but this applies to everything not just dating.

My opinion is that social decay will continue due to the economics of this process. Lone, bitter and angry people tend to consume more, its that simple.

Both men and women are yearning to find people to truly connect to.

Are they? because for me it seems they, particularly women but also men, want someone who can stand them but wont require them having to do the same, you know what I'm saying?

 

[TrulyMan]

Dunno, I been online for a long time and having a conversation nowadays its really hard, everybody seems like they got some form of induced adhd and can't hold a thought let alone express it.

But many prefer to be alone rather than do the effort to not be, and in this age of unending entertainment on demand its easier for them to remain lazy and alone since the constant stream of content keeps the bad thoughts away.

I know, but this applies to everything not just dating.

My opinion is that social decay will continue due to the economics of this process. Lone, bitter and angry people tend to consume more, its that simple.

Are they? because for me it seems they, particularly women but also men, want someone who can stand them but wont require them having to do the same, you know what I'm saying?

Maybe our demographics are different and we're looking for different people and have too different outlooks on life for my advice to be applicable.

 

[cybertoaster]

Maybe our demographics are different and we're looking for different people and have too different outlooks on life for my advice to be applicable.

Dunno, are you a boomer? what's your age bracket?

 

[TrulyMan]

I dont post that stuff on Kiwifarms, sorry bro.

 

[cybertoaster]

I dont post that stuff on Kiwifarms, sorry bro.

No need to powerlevel just say if you're above or below 40

 

[TrulyMan]

Below

 

[drfuzzyballs]

Liberty, egality, fraternity

Wait a minute, I've seen this before. YOU'RE A FROG!