Culture Why Did the Novel-Reading Man Disappear? - Men are leaving fiction reading behind. Some people want to change that.

By Joseph Bernstein
June 25, 2025 Updated 2:17 p.m. ET

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In the mid-20th century, when this man browsed bookstore shelves, fiction was a boys club. Today, the situation has changed. John Murray/Hulton Archive, via Getty Images

For the first meeting of his book club for men, Yahdon Israel, a 35-year-old senior editor at Simon & Schuster, asked the participants to bring a favorite work of fiction. Not everyone completed the assignment.

One man brought “Watchmen,” a graphic novel. Valid, technically.

Another scoured his home bookshelf and realized he did not own a single novel or short story collection. So he showed up to the meeting with a nonfiction book about emotional intelligence. (Mr. Israel posted a photo of the seven millenial-ish men in the group, each holding his selection, to his Instagram account.)

Mr. Israel, who has hosted another book club for nearly a decade, started this group last December in an effort to inspire heterosexual men to read more fiction. He solicited members over social media. For the second meeting, he assigned a story collection by Jamel Brinkley, “A Lucky Man,” which examines contemporary masculinity. For two hours, the men discussed the book, and the theme.

The next day, Mr. Israel had a panic attack. Two days later, he said, he was diagnosed with depression.

He has spent the months since grappling with painful realizations that came out of the discussion, about how toxic masculinity has harmed his own marriage, especially the idea that real men do not share their feelings. It was an epiphany out of James Joyce, unlocked, he said, by that conversation in the book club.

Indeed, while Mr. Israel might have convened the group to help other men read more fiction, he has since realized that there’s an even deeper reason.

“I’m doing this because I need it,” he said in an interview.

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Yahdon Israel, center, and members of his “Fiction Revival” book club, aimed at inspiring straight men to read more fiction. Porsalin Hindsman-Israel

So do lots of men — at least according to a robust debate unfolding in opinion pages and news articles, on social media platforms and inside the publishing world. By turns a maligned or suspicious figure in decades past — in the case of the “Infinite Jest” lover, for instance — or a fetishized one — consider the enormously popular “Hot Dudes Reading” Instagram — the figure of the literary male reader is now disappearing, some say, and his disappearance is a matter of grave concern.

These articles, which focus explicitly or implicitly on straight men, connect the fact that these men are reading fewer novels to a variety of social maladies, up to and including deleterious effects on American democracy itself. If more men were reading like Mr. Israel, the thinking goes, the country would be a healthier place: more sensitive, more self-aware, less destructive. As more American men fill their hours with the crude talk shows of the “manosphere,” online gambling and addictive multiplayer games, the humble novel — consumed alone, requiring thought and patience — can look like a panacea.

It’s a lot of pressure to put on the reading man, who for many people remains a fittingly prosaic sight, unworthy of deeper thought or further comment. Perhaps he is passing the time on a commute, or taking a break from the stresses of the day. Little does he know, he’s been drafted into a new front in the culture war over the future of men.

On a recent afternoon in June, Jack Kyono, an assistant manager at McNally Jackson, the stalwart New York book chain, walked the floor of the store’s SoHo location. Mr. Kyono was quick to point out that not all men read in the same way. International tourists are buying different books from older American men, who are buying different books from young professionals. But he broadly agreed with the idea that when it came to reading fiction, straight men were followers, not leaders. They might read Sally Rooney or Ocean Vuong, he said, but only after an audience of straight women and queer people had made them cultural touchstones.

Earlier on the phone, he told me he had noticed a gender divide among the stacks: When groups of women wandered into the store, they frequently browsed together, pointing out books they had read and making suggestions for their friends — an act that booksellers call “the handsell.”

Meanwhile, when men came into the bookstore with other men, they typically split up and dispersed to far corners of the store.

“It’s solo browsing time,” he said.

Navigating the aisles, Mr. Kyono, 27, led us to a cubicle-size display near the back dedicated to science fiction and fantasy, where the shelves were heavy with multipart series with names like “Iron Gold” and “Light Bringer.” Nearby, an alcove of the American fiction section from F through K contained many of the most famous male writers of what Mr. Kyono called the “American high school reading curriculum”: Faulkner, Hemingway, Heller, Kerouac.

“This is a hot corner for men,” he noted.

So, too, was a nook featuring literature in translation. Here, said Mr. Kyono, another kind of male reader snaps up long, ambitious novels from Czech, Romanian and Austrian writers — someone who may fit into the much-debated trope of the “high brodernist,” male readers and critics who prize esoteric, challenging texts in translation.

Inside the store, the customers were overwhelmingly women. But there were a few men. Some, like Daniel Schreiner, 38, were fans of the fantasy star Brandon Sanderson. He said he thought men read less fiction than women because “we’re less literate than they are.” Another man, Louis Nunez, 41, said he did not read fiction, and typically picked out nonfiction books related to spirituality.

“But spirituality is like fiction to some people,” he said.

There was at least one man in the store who planned to buy a work of fiction: Bob Ryan, a college literature professor, holding a novel about a Japanese architect. Mr. Ryan, 37, said he had trouble getting many of the young men in his courses interested in the material, because they did not see the benefit of novels. “They’re more interested in the instrumental,” he said.

Eventually, Mr. Kyono took me to the front to look at an attractive “customer favorites” display. Here, pastel and vivid colors dominated the covers of books by romance and “romantasy” stalwarts like Carley Fortune and Sarah J. Maas, the author of the popular “A Court of Thorns and Roses” series.

Beyond the bookstore, much of the architecture of book discovery is informally targeted at women. Celebrity book clubs are mostly led by female celebrities and increasingly court women of all ages, from those who are fans of Oprah Winfrey and Reese Witherspoon to those who are more interested in the tastes of Dua Lipa and Kaia Gerber. (Former President Barack Obama, the obvious straight male exception, releases a single list of his favorite books every year.) #BookTok, the vast community on TikTok that has become a best-seller machine, is largely populated by women recommending books by other women, like Colleen Hoover’s “It Ends With Us.”

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Reese Witherspoon started Reese’s Book Club in 2017. Mireya Acierto/Getty Images

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Oprah Winfrey started “Oprah’s Book Club” in 1996 to recommend favorite titles to her audience. Sara Krulwich/The New York Times

There are counterexamples that prove the rule. C.J. Box, the author of a long-running series about a Wyoming game warden who solves murders, has expanded his audience to include younger men by appearing on a series of podcasts about hunting, fishing and other outdoors subjects.

But literary novelists — the kind who populate prestigious lists and publish the “big” books of the year — have not seemed to crack the code with straight guys, at least on social media.

One common argument focuses on supply: that men are not reading fiction because the subject matter of contemporary fiction does not speak to men. Jordan Castro, a novelist whose books inhabit the minds of frustrated men, wrote in an email that “the general tone and etiquette of the literary world is certainly hostile to masculine expression.” Conduit Books, a new indie press that debuted this year, will focus on books by male authors, and will center “overlooked” themes of “fatherhood, masculinity, working-class male experience, sex and relationships, and negotiating the 21st-century as a man.”

These arguments hark back to a midcentury culture of fiction writing dominated by men writing about masculine subjects and the male experience. But it was not always thus. In the 19th century, the most popular novels were written by women for a female audience. Their output was considered “paltry entertainment,” according to Dan Sinykin, a professor of English at Emory University and the author of “Big Fiction: How Conglomeration Changed the Publishing Industry and American Literature.”

Many of these titles were so-called sentimental novels, whose virtuous heroines illustrated proper moral conduct. In 1855, Nathaniel Hawthorne described American novelists to his publisher as “a damned mob of scribbling women, and I should have no chance of success while the public taste is occupied with their trash.”

A century later, the story had changed, and publishing had become a boys club with cultural cachet, according to Mr. Sinykin. Literary form was prized above social instruction.

Starting in the 1980s, a new generation of women came to dominate the publishing industry. The “feminization” of the industry, as Mr. Sinkyin called it, resulted in a business that “assumes its primary audience is white women between 30 and 65” and publishes books to suit their tastes.

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Some people are worried about the disappearing figure of the literary male reader. In the mid-20th century, publishing catered more to his tastes. Evening Standard/Hulton Archive, via Getty Images

In one sense, then, for men to read more fiction as the world of the novel exists today would not just require more stereotypically masculine subject matter. It might be a matter of men approaching their reading lives a little more like women do — getting recommendations online from celebrities and influencers, browsing together, forming book clubs.

One thing that may help: brick-and-mortar bookstores giving traditionally male-focused genres the romantasy treatment, said Shannon DeVito, the senior director of books at Barnes & Noble. According to Ms. DeVito, over the past six months, the chain has had growing sales from contemporary science fiction and fantasy authors like Matt Dinniman and James Islington.

“It’s not a concerted effort to get men to read more,” said Ms. DeVito. “It’s just great books that appeal to that audience.”

Book culture is not a monolith. According to BookScan, some 782.7 million books were sold in 2024, and the rapid growth of the self-published book market means that there is fiction to suit almost every taste. In this context, what Mr. Sinykin called the “worst version” of the critique of contemporary fiction — that liberal politics have destroyed the space for male readers — seems like a huge oversimplification. And many people who care about the future of the male fiction reader are keen to avoid it.

Mr. Israel deliberately did not include the words “man” or “men” in the name of his book club. He called it “The Fiction Revival,” to underline the idea that there was a kind of reading experience for men that needed to be resuscitated.

Max Lawton, a translator who frequently works on long European novels, scoffed at the “corny idea of the male reader” who is interested only in stereotypically masculine subjects and austere prose.

“Being a reader is not a two-party system — you can read whatever you want,” he said.

Even Mr. Castro, the novelist, rejected the idea of a countermovement in the name of masculine identity. “Resentment, performing or embodying a self-consciously ‘masculine’ identity at the expense of literary value, is cringe,” he wrote in an email. “‘Identity’ is not a literary value.”

One real challenge at hand is a frenzied attention economy competing for everyone’s time, not just men’s. To present the sorry state of the male reader as having solely to do with the gendered quality of contemporary fiction misses a screen-based culture that presents nearly unlimited forms of entertainment.

“Our competition isn’t other publishers,” said Sean Manning, the publisher of Simon & Schuster. “It’s social media, gaming, streaming. All these other things that are vying for people’s time, attention and financial resources.”

Asked whether the publishing industry needed straight men to read more fiction as a purely economic matter, Mr. Manning focused instead on the social benefits of reading.

“It’s a problem if anyone isn’t taking advantage of an incredible artistic medium,” he said. “It’s hurtful not to be well-rounded.”

In an effort to get more people — yes, among them, men — to pick up his books, Mr. Manning is trying to make his own back catalog speak more to the culture at large. He has commissioned Taylor Sheridan, the creator of such man-approved shows and movies as “Yellowstone” and “Sicario,” to write the introduction to a new edition of Larry McMurtry’s classic western, “Lonesome Dove.” (Another guy-friendly introduction to an old title: the Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich on Hunter S. Thompson’s “Screwjack.”)

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Simon & Schuster asked Lars Ulrich of Metallica to write an intro to a work of Hunter S. Thompson’s. Kevin Winter/Getty Images

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And asked Taylor Sheridan, the creator of “Yellowstone,” to write the introduction to a new edition of Larry McMurtry’s “Lonesome Dove.” Monica Schipper/Getty Images

Mr. Manning might be happy to reach a book club like the one Andy Spackman, 46, started in the Lawrence, Kan., area three years ago. A former construction worker married to the best-selling memoirist Sarah Smarsh, Mr. Spackman said he felt that he did not have anyone to talk to about books, and that a book club might be a good way to bond with other men.

“I’m always seeing women out doing things and being friendlier toward each other than men are,” he said.

Since convening the group, the men have read Cormac McCarthy’s “Blood Meridian,” Donna Tartt’s “The Secret History” and James McBride’s “The Good Lord Bird,” among others. Dissecting and reassembling the ideas in these books, Mr. Spackman said, has led to a level of depth and intimacy with other men that he never got from inviting friends over to play video games, or from hanging out at the bar.

That does not mean, however, that there is no role for that time-tested male social lubricant, and subject of much great writing by men.

“Full disclosure,” Mr. Spackman said. “There is alcohol at the book club.”

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then give male readers something they'd like to read, jeez
I've found what I want to read is on Kiwi Farms. Actually some of it is on 4chan, and then reposted on Kiwi Farms, to be specific. Anyways, best reading club ever, I have many nuanced takes on fat retards and love hearing differences of opinion.
 
Ever since one of you Kiwis pointed me to Anna's Archive, I've been reading more in the last couple of months than I have the past couple of years. One of the main things that keeps me away from bookstores is the ridiculous prices.

Even used bookstores are no help because there's no guarantee that they'll have what I'm looking for. Even if they do, it's usually only a partial-series I've been wanting to check out and good luck randomly finding the rest in the zillion used book stores around my city.

Seriously though, there's no excuse for charging $10-$15 for a trade paperback copy of a book that's been around for several decades by now. I'll happily pirate it and read it for free on any device I want.
 
My high school assigned novels like Dune and The Road on top or the usual gamut of Moby Dick and etc. Mixing in actually readable modern novels definitely helped with keeping me reading after school, despite college classes on postmodernism doing their best.

Lots of men still read shit like Clive Cussler but aren't gonna go around broadcasting that. Its not 'book club' material.

There's plenty of male oriented thrillers, fantasy, and sci-fi, but it isnt 'highbrow lit' or queer slop so of course the women publishers don't notice it.
Moby Dick is actually also a novel for guys, just guys on the more literate side. It would never be published today for several reasons including that Herman Melville was a white man and that a black sailor character is portrayed as a savage spear-chucking cannibal for comedy purposes.
 
Sounds like bullshit to me. I read just as much fiction as I ever did. More, as online sources like Anna's Archive allow me access to full bibliographies of my favourite authors whose books are now out of print like Gary Jennings.

Currently reading Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy. What an epic.
 
If men aren't reading fiction, then women are barely reading fiction. I see all these celebrity book club pics with [actress] posing next to a stack of books and god help her, I hope it's all paid promo stuff because they are DIRE. It's all forgettable chicklit that is at BEST the equivalent of Louis L'Amour westerns or those hard-boiled Punch Gunfist, Private Eye books. All the emotional and thematic depth of a Hayes manual with none of the information. Same with 'booktok' and 'bookstagram', ZERO attempt to engage with anything even remotely complex or challenging.
Yeah, my father is basically my book club buddy because he's currently the only other person I know who reads a lot. For instance, I heavily recommended Cormac McCarthy to my co-workers last year and I don't think any of them gave a damn even though most of them are college-educated professionals. Most people don't read books at all and that includes literary junk food.
 
Personally, I like the badass girl archetype, as long as it isn't done in a cringe way.
Athena and the valkyries are both part of storied European founding mythology. The idea of a woman that can hold her own and embodies proper masculine virtues like discipline, bravery, sacrifice, and duty goes back a long way. Anyone who spergs about how women shouldn't have any of these qualities because it's gay or something is overcompensating.
 
i must be one of the very few people here who liked the assigned reading books in middle and high school. i dont remember every single book from that time, but outside the odyssey (we technically read it back in 6th grade because my world history teacher seemed to like that period of time), for the most part, i liked the books i was given to read during this time. i do like to read but much like the video games, i am very slow to reading things. i rented out shogun from the library twice to try to read it and never got around to finishing it simply because i took too long to do so (and it was a nice copy of shogun too but fuck if that book aint long)
 
My high school assigned novels like Dune and The Road on top or the usual gamut of Moby Dick and etc.
My love of reading grown-up fiction came about when an English teacher in my school (not mine though) loaned me a copy of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy when I was 10.
A year or two and a different school later, during the first English class I attended for the new school year, the teacher walked in with a stack of paperbacks.
He picked them up one at a time and read only the first page. One of them was ‘The Stainless Steel Rat’ by Harry Harrison and I instantly wanted to read it. He finished the lesson and said “all of these books are freely available from the library, you can borrow any of them after I return them this afternoon.”

We underestimate the importance of guiding our young men into reading by presenting them with exciting stories that speak to their sense of adventure. Over the next couple of years, all my friends were reading about Jim DiGriz and branching out into Orwell, Heinlein (saucy!), Alan Dean Foster, Orson Scott Card, Weis/Hickman, Vance, Sheckley and more.

Most fiction aimed at young men now is about them dealing with being awkward losers. Relatable? Maybe. Inspirational? Not at all. As a kid I wanted space pirates and awesome laser battles against implacable alien foes. Not pimples and embarrassment.

Clearly this isn't your ordinary book club.
Want to know why Amazon’s ‘The Rings of Power’ was so shit despite being ‘written in consultation with Tolkien scholars’?
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There is not a painful enough acid in the world to fill the barrels in which I would drown these people.
 
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My high school assigned novels like Dune and The Road on top or the usual gamut of Moby Dick and etc. Mixing in actually readable modern novels definitely helped with keeping me reading after school, despite college classes on postmodernism doing their best.

Lots of men still read shit like Clive Cussler but aren't gonna go around broadcasting that. Its not 'book club' material.

There's plenty of male oriented thrillers, fantasy, and sci-fi, but it isnt 'highbrow lit' or queer slop so of course the women publishers don't notice it.

Oh yeah I don't give a shit. I'll just test the waters with books and see where it goes. Surprisingly, a lot of dudes just seem to read non-fiction, historical stuff, or "men's fiction" (thriller/fantasy/sci-fi/action/etc) and enough people have talked about it to me. I find it funny that it's always faggots and women who try to gatekeep literature as a hobby, but then horrendously fail any actual knowledge check.

IIRC Robert Howard created Red Sonja and other stronk warrior waifu characters. For his day, he was progressive on gender roles.

Personally, I like the badass girl archetype, as long as it isn't done in a cringe way. My favorite example being Vin from Mistborn.

He created Red Sonja, Belit, and Dark Agnes. His female characters in the Conan tales were often more on the side of being wily and making the best of shit situations by choosing to aid Conan to get out of those.

Probably already suggested but Nightlord series by Garon Whited (sp?) or Malazan Book of the Fallen - expect to not know what the fuck in the first book but it pays off.

E: not sure how I forgot Spellmonger but that’s good times.
Malazan seems weird. I hear it gets good if you can finish the first two books? I've only got one.

It's because they're essentially jannies (janissaries?) upholding the current dogma imposed from top to bottom, and they know the power fiction has in terms of political and memetic influence. In Italy, Tolkien's work inspired the right wing over there to join and rally against the commies/leftists at the time that were overtaking their society. Now you could say that the right at that time were just pawns being used for Operation Gladio, but that's another discussion.

Now imagine if something similar happened with Warhammer. Anything that denotes any form of traditionalist tendencies, like Warhammer or Tolkien's work, is immediately subverted, cut off at the root through this diversity inclusion bullshit, which we all know is mostly women and feminized men/trannies acting as jannies for whoever holds the current grip of state dogma, whoever gives them any sort of power in which they will do anything to uphold.

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Clearly this isn't your ordinary book club.

Oh yeah the left have been indoctrinated against all of that stuff, but it's still funny how much they're dead-set against any of it becoming popular.

If men aren't reading fiction, then women are barely reading fiction. I see all these celebrity book club pics with [actress] posing next to a stack of books and god help her, I hope it's all paid promo stuff because they are DIRE. It's all forgettable chicklit that is at BEST the equivalent of Louis L'Amour westerns or those hard-boiled Punch Gunfist, Private Eye books. All the emotional and thematic depth of a Hayes manual with none of the information. Same with 'booktok' and 'bookstagram', ZERO attempt to engage with anything even remotely complex or challenging.

That's an insult to Louis L'Amour and you know it.

Those are the type of women working their way into the publishing industry. Women who go "ick" at stuff that appeals to male fantasy or demeans women, without trying to understand either the point. Or why it might appeal to men.

As they feminize the book industry more, less and less men are going to become book worms, leading to a downward spiral until the entire industry is run by HR catladies and nothing is actually made specifically for men. Thank god for webnovels, and Chinese/Japanese/korean light novels that dont give a shit.

It's not just that. They'll go look at the classics or go for their own older genre stuff. Want Cyberpunk? Neuromancer and the rest of the Sprawl books are right there.

If you haven’t done this yet, Bernard Cromwell’s last kingdom series is awesome. He also has a holy grail series and a King Arthur series. All are excellent. But the last kingdom one is his best by far. “My name is Uhtred. I am the son of Uhtred”

I keep looking for volume 1 of The Last Kingdom. I've only found vol 3 in the wild. I'll definitely try to find Cromwell's fantasy.

Men want adventure. We want thrills. We want gunplay and swordplay and exotic locations and clever plots and dasterdly crimes. We want the tired gumshoe following the trail through gutter and penthouse. We want the knight slaying the dragon and saving the kingdom. We want the criminal racing against time to perform his heist. We want funny fantasy and terrifying horror. We even want a little romance to supplement the plot.

Note I said supplement. Not consume.

Men want Jules Verne, not Jane Austen.

I stopped buying new books when I picked up one that had a blurb promising the Mummy with genies and instead gave me Twilight with genies. Now I dont trust any of them.

See, isn't this why Brandon Sanderson's shit appealed to women/faggots solely because he had his protagonist also be a "therapist". Fuck him.

Men want Mickey Spillane, Isaac Asimov, Zane Grey, C.S. Forrester, Alistair Macleane, H.P. Lovecraft and Robert E. Howard. It's not their fault, but the male experience is wired to enjoy that sort of thing. We can read some Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte, but that doesn't do it for us. Boys want Jack London and Robert Louis Stevenson, not Sarah J. Maas.

Ever since one of you Kiwis pointed me to Anna's Archive, I've been reading more in the last couple of months than I have the past couple of years. One of the main things that keeps me away from bookstores is the ridiculous prices.

Even used bookstores are no help because there's no guarantee that they'll have what I'm looking for. Even if they do, it's usually only a partial-series I've been wanting to check out and good luck randomly finding the rest in the zillion used book stores around my city.

Seriously though, there's no excuse for charging $10-$15 for a trade paperback copy of a book that's been around for several decades by now. I'll happily pirate it and read it for free on any device I want.

I'm a bit of a paper autist in that I'll really want physical books, but I trawl through thrift stores and used bookstores quite often. I mean, the works of Jack Williamson and Leigh Brackett and etc. are all likely to be found for free on archival sites, but it's different. I'll read ebooks, it's cheap or free. But there's something else about reading a physical book in hand.

Moby Dick is actually also a novel for guys, just guys on the more literate side. It would never be published today for several reasons including that Herman Melville was a white man and that a black sailor character is portrayed as a savage spear-chucking cannibal for comedy purposes.
It's also a book that zoomies won't touch with their ruined attention spans.
Sounds like bullshit to me. I read just as much fiction as I ever did. More, as online sources like Anna's Archive allow me access to full bibliographies of my favourite authors whose books are now out of print like Gary Jennings.

Currently reading Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy. What an epic.
I hear that Mars trilogy has its flaws, but it's still better than a lot of more modern genre fiction. Robinson's still writing too, iirc.
Yeah, my father is basically my book club buddy because he's currently the only other person I know who reads a lot. For instance, I heavily recommended Cormac McCarthy to my co-workers last year and I don't think any of them gave a damn even though most of them are college-educated professionals. Most people don't read books at all and that includes literary junk food.
Yeah, audiobooks are becoming more popular, at least.
My love of reading grown-up fiction came about when an English teacher in my school (not mine though) loaned me a copy of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy when I was 10.
A year or two and a different school later, during the first English class I attended for the new school year, the teacher walked in with a stack of paperbacks.
He picked them up one at a time and read only the first page. One of them was ‘The Stainless Steel Rat’ by Harry Harrison and I instantly wanted to read it. He finished the lesson and said “all of these books are freely available from the library, you can borrow any of them after I return them this afternoon.”

We underestimate the importance of guiding our young men into reading by presenting them with exciting stories that speak to their sense of adventure. Over the next couple of years, all my friends were reading about Jim DiGriz and branching out into Orwell, Heinlein (saucy!), Alan Dean Foster, Orson Scott Card, Weis/Hickman, Vance, Sheckley and more.

Most fiction aimed at young men now is about them dealing with being awkward losers. Relatable? Maybe. Inspirational? Not at all. As a kid I wanted space pirates and awesome laser battles against implacable alien foes. Not pimples and embarrassment.

You were a kid in the early 80s? Musta been neat. Nowadays all school reading material has to be approved by both admin+state regulations. Teachers can't just pull stuff for the kids and libraries aren't really in favor of them too.

Want to know why Amazon’s ‘The Rings of Power’ was so shit despite being ‘written in consultation with Tolkien scholars’?
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There is not a painful enough acid in the world to fill the barrels in which I would drown these people.
They don't care about Tolkein, they just want the clout.

I remember loving reading as a kid. Edgar Rice Burroughs, Jules Verne, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, H. Rider Haggard, Horatio Alger, and G. A. Henty were all fun.
 
The problem is that artsy types tend to be leftist because Leftism is a disease of prosperity, and it's only a prosperous society that has the time to spend on creating art. We may not have another era of good art until there's been a societal collapse. Works like Star Wars, LOTR, low fantasy, science fiction - these were often made by men who were soldiers/scholars/professionals in their fields, or by people who had watched and studied works made by such people. Star Wars would never have existed if it hadn't been for old World War 2 movies, and the works of Akira Kurosawa. LOTR was the product of Tolkien's studies of mythology and linguistics, plus his experiences in World War I. Even Peanuts cartoons were influenced by Charles Schultz's experiences as a WW2 soldier, and by his study of WW1 related media.

Modern shit is made by people who watched 20th Century media, declared it problematic, and have decided to rewrite it, applying their progressive bubble politics and gay werewolf fantasy filters to it. They both hate the people they're making these works of media for, and want to "educate" them. Many of them are also kiddie groomers who want to brainwash children into liking their slop and becoming some stain of LGBTQ.
 
The problem is that artsy types tend to be leftist because Leftism is a disease of prosperity, and it's only a prosperous society that has the time to spend on creating art. We may not have another era of good art until there's been a societal collapse. Works like Star Wars, LOTR, low fantasy, science fiction - these were often made by men who were soldiers/scholars/professionals in their fields, or by people who had watched and studied works made by such people. Star Wars would never have existed if it hadn't been for old World War 2 movies, and the works of Akira Kurosawa. LOTR was the product of Tolkien's studies of mythology and linguistics, plus his experiences in World War I. Even Peanuts cartoons were influenced by Charles Schultz's experiences as a WW2 soldier, and by his study of WW1 related media.

Modern shit is made by people who watched 20th Century media, declared it problematic, and have decided to rewrite it, applying their progressive bubble politics and gay werewolf fantasy filters to it. They both hate the people they're making these works of media for, and want to "educate" them. Many of them are also kiddie groomers who want to brainwash children into liking their slop and becoming some stain of LGBTQ.

It's because modern leftism is basically one giant grift-game and the cultural marxists have perfected all of this. Everything's through the oppressor-oppressed lens now. Nothing's meaningful.

Unfortunately, we're not allowed to do anything meaningful. It might be racist or sexist or homophobic.

Man, I just found out about Valerio Massimo Manfredi, another seemingly based historical fiction writer to look into someday. Man's an octogenarian Italian archeologist/history professor who's apparently well regarded for his work. I'm sad because he's old as shit, but I'm glad to find another one that's probably worth reading solely because him being old as shit means his work's probably decent.
 
The publishing industry drove off men. There are virtually no straight male fiction authors anymore. And certainly no traditionally male stories are allowed as shit like Conan the Barbarian is "Toxic Masculinity".

It's only now that the publishing industry is realizing they drove off their largest long term source of income. They deliberately shrank their industry and now can't understand where the men went.
That’s why we need Conan the Librarian.
 
why does it have to be modern? there's decades of published fantasy literature already, more than you could ever read in your liftetime. plenty of really high quality gems out there for you to enjoy.
Because it is much easier for an author of your age to write you stories you want to read and feel appropriate for the time.
 
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Men "don't read" fiction because of the Karen editorial mafia that dominates big book publishers, where they selectively blacklist straight (White) male authors.

This pattern of behavior is what has led to the explosion of self-publishing, as a massive percentage of would-be authors ditched the established business model because they knew none of the big companies would ever pick up their works.
 
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