Culture Why Did the Novel-Reading Man Disappear? - Men are leaving fiction reading behind. Some people want to change that.

By Joseph Bernstein
June 25, 2025 Updated 2:17 p.m. ET

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In the mid-20th century, when this man browsed bookstore shelves, fiction was a boys club. Today, the situation has changed. John Murray/Hulton Archive, via Getty Images

For the first meeting of his book club for men, Yahdon Israel, a 35-year-old senior editor at Simon & Schuster, asked the participants to bring a favorite work of fiction. Not everyone completed the assignment.

One man brought “Watchmen,” a graphic novel. Valid, technically.

Another scoured his home bookshelf and realized he did not own a single novel or short story collection. So he showed up to the meeting with a nonfiction book about emotional intelligence. (Mr. Israel posted a photo of the seven millenial-ish men in the group, each holding his selection, to his Instagram account.)

Mr. Israel, who has hosted another book club for nearly a decade, started this group last December in an effort to inspire heterosexual men to read more fiction. He solicited members over social media. For the second meeting, he assigned a story collection by Jamel Brinkley, “A Lucky Man,” which examines contemporary masculinity. For two hours, the men discussed the book, and the theme.

The next day, Mr. Israel had a panic attack. Two days later, he said, he was diagnosed with depression.

He has spent the months since grappling with painful realizations that came out of the discussion, about how toxic masculinity has harmed his own marriage, especially the idea that real men do not share their feelings. It was an epiphany out of James Joyce, unlocked, he said, by that conversation in the book club.

Indeed, while Mr. Israel might have convened the group to help other men read more fiction, he has since realized that there’s an even deeper reason.

“I’m doing this because I need it,” he said in an interview.

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Yahdon Israel, center, and members of his “Fiction Revival” book club, aimed at inspiring straight men to read more fiction. Porsalin Hindsman-Israel

So do lots of men — at least according to a robust debate unfolding in opinion pages and news articles, on social media platforms and inside the publishing world. By turns a maligned or suspicious figure in decades past — in the case of the “Infinite Jest” lover, for instance — or a fetishized one — consider the enormously popular “Hot Dudes Reading” Instagram — the figure of the literary male reader is now disappearing, some say, and his disappearance is a matter of grave concern.

These articles, which focus explicitly or implicitly on straight men, connect the fact that these men are reading fewer novels to a variety of social maladies, up to and including deleterious effects on American democracy itself. If more men were reading like Mr. Israel, the thinking goes, the country would be a healthier place: more sensitive, more self-aware, less destructive. As more American men fill their hours with the crude talk shows of the “manosphere,” online gambling and addictive multiplayer games, the humble novel — consumed alone, requiring thought and patience — can look like a panacea.

It’s a lot of pressure to put on the reading man, who for many people remains a fittingly prosaic sight, unworthy of deeper thought or further comment. Perhaps he is passing the time on a commute, or taking a break from the stresses of the day. Little does he know, he’s been drafted into a new front in the culture war over the future of men.

On a recent afternoon in June, Jack Kyono, an assistant manager at McNally Jackson, the stalwart New York book chain, walked the floor of the store’s SoHo location. Mr. Kyono was quick to point out that not all men read in the same way. International tourists are buying different books from older American men, who are buying different books from young professionals. But he broadly agreed with the idea that when it came to reading fiction, straight men were followers, not leaders. They might read Sally Rooney or Ocean Vuong, he said, but only after an audience of straight women and queer people had made them cultural touchstones.

Earlier on the phone, he told me he had noticed a gender divide among the stacks: When groups of women wandered into the store, they frequently browsed together, pointing out books they had read and making suggestions for their friends — an act that booksellers call “the handsell.”

Meanwhile, when men came into the bookstore with other men, they typically split up and dispersed to far corners of the store.

“It’s solo browsing time,” he said.

Navigating the aisles, Mr. Kyono, 27, led us to a cubicle-size display near the back dedicated to science fiction and fantasy, where the shelves were heavy with multipart series with names like “Iron Gold” and “Light Bringer.” Nearby, an alcove of the American fiction section from F through K contained many of the most famous male writers of what Mr. Kyono called the “American high school reading curriculum”: Faulkner, Hemingway, Heller, Kerouac.

“This is a hot corner for men,” he noted.

So, too, was a nook featuring literature in translation. Here, said Mr. Kyono, another kind of male reader snaps up long, ambitious novels from Czech, Romanian and Austrian writers — someone who may fit into the much-debated trope of the “high brodernist,” male readers and critics who prize esoteric, challenging texts in translation.

Inside the store, the customers were overwhelmingly women. But there were a few men. Some, like Daniel Schreiner, 38, were fans of the fantasy star Brandon Sanderson. He said he thought men read less fiction than women because “we’re less literate than they are.” Another man, Louis Nunez, 41, said he did not read fiction, and typically picked out nonfiction books related to spirituality.

“But spirituality is like fiction to some people,” he said.

There was at least one man in the store who planned to buy a work of fiction: Bob Ryan, a college literature professor, holding a novel about a Japanese architect. Mr. Ryan, 37, said he had trouble getting many of the young men in his courses interested in the material, because they did not see the benefit of novels. “They’re more interested in the instrumental,” he said.

Eventually, Mr. Kyono took me to the front to look at an attractive “customer favorites” display. Here, pastel and vivid colors dominated the covers of books by romance and “romantasy” stalwarts like Carley Fortune and Sarah J. Maas, the author of the popular “A Court of Thorns and Roses” series.

Beyond the bookstore, much of the architecture of book discovery is informally targeted at women. Celebrity book clubs are mostly led by female celebrities and increasingly court women of all ages, from those who are fans of Oprah Winfrey and Reese Witherspoon to those who are more interested in the tastes of Dua Lipa and Kaia Gerber. (Former President Barack Obama, the obvious straight male exception, releases a single list of his favorite books every year.) #BookTok, the vast community on TikTok that has become a best-seller machine, is largely populated by women recommending books by other women, like Colleen Hoover’s “It Ends With Us.”

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Reese Witherspoon started Reese’s Book Club in 2017. Mireya Acierto/Getty Images

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Oprah Winfrey started “Oprah’s Book Club” in 1996 to recommend favorite titles to her audience. Sara Krulwich/The New York Times

There are counterexamples that prove the rule. C.J. Box, the author of a long-running series about a Wyoming game warden who solves murders, has expanded his audience to include younger men by appearing on a series of podcasts about hunting, fishing and other outdoors subjects.

But literary novelists — the kind who populate prestigious lists and publish the “big” books of the year — have not seemed to crack the code with straight guys, at least on social media.

One common argument focuses on supply: that men are not reading fiction because the subject matter of contemporary fiction does not speak to men. Jordan Castro, a novelist whose books inhabit the minds of frustrated men, wrote in an email that “the general tone and etiquette of the literary world is certainly hostile to masculine expression.” Conduit Books, a new indie press that debuted this year, will focus on books by male authors, and will center “overlooked” themes of “fatherhood, masculinity, working-class male experience, sex and relationships, and negotiating the 21st-century as a man.”

These arguments hark back to a midcentury culture of fiction writing dominated by men writing about masculine subjects and the male experience. But it was not always thus. In the 19th century, the most popular novels were written by women for a female audience. Their output was considered “paltry entertainment,” according to Dan Sinykin, a professor of English at Emory University and the author of “Big Fiction: How Conglomeration Changed the Publishing Industry and American Literature.”

Many of these titles were so-called sentimental novels, whose virtuous heroines illustrated proper moral conduct. In 1855, Nathaniel Hawthorne described American novelists to his publisher as “a damned mob of scribbling women, and I should have no chance of success while the public taste is occupied with their trash.”

A century later, the story had changed, and publishing had become a boys club with cultural cachet, according to Mr. Sinykin. Literary form was prized above social instruction.

Starting in the 1980s, a new generation of women came to dominate the publishing industry. The “feminization” of the industry, as Mr. Sinkyin called it, resulted in a business that “assumes its primary audience is white women between 30 and 65” and publishes books to suit their tastes.

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Some people are worried about the disappearing figure of the literary male reader. In the mid-20th century, publishing catered more to his tastes. Evening Standard/Hulton Archive, via Getty Images

In one sense, then, for men to read more fiction as the world of the novel exists today would not just require more stereotypically masculine subject matter. It might be a matter of men approaching their reading lives a little more like women do — getting recommendations online from celebrities and influencers, browsing together, forming book clubs.

One thing that may help: brick-and-mortar bookstores giving traditionally male-focused genres the romantasy treatment, said Shannon DeVito, the senior director of books at Barnes & Noble. According to Ms. DeVito, over the past six months, the chain has had growing sales from contemporary science fiction and fantasy authors like Matt Dinniman and James Islington.

“It’s not a concerted effort to get men to read more,” said Ms. DeVito. “It’s just great books that appeal to that audience.”

Book culture is not a monolith. According to BookScan, some 782.7 million books were sold in 2024, and the rapid growth of the self-published book market means that there is fiction to suit almost every taste. In this context, what Mr. Sinykin called the “worst version” of the critique of contemporary fiction — that liberal politics have destroyed the space for male readers — seems like a huge oversimplification. And many people who care about the future of the male fiction reader are keen to avoid it.

Mr. Israel deliberately did not include the words “man” or “men” in the name of his book club. He called it “The Fiction Revival,” to underline the idea that there was a kind of reading experience for men that needed to be resuscitated.

Max Lawton, a translator who frequently works on long European novels, scoffed at the “corny idea of the male reader” who is interested only in stereotypically masculine subjects and austere prose.

“Being a reader is not a two-party system — you can read whatever you want,” he said.

Even Mr. Castro, the novelist, rejected the idea of a countermovement in the name of masculine identity. “Resentment, performing or embodying a self-consciously ‘masculine’ identity at the expense of literary value, is cringe,” he wrote in an email. “‘Identity’ is not a literary value.”

One real challenge at hand is a frenzied attention economy competing for everyone’s time, not just men’s. To present the sorry state of the male reader as having solely to do with the gendered quality of contemporary fiction misses a screen-based culture that presents nearly unlimited forms of entertainment.

“Our competition isn’t other publishers,” said Sean Manning, the publisher of Simon & Schuster. “It’s social media, gaming, streaming. All these other things that are vying for people’s time, attention and financial resources.”

Asked whether the publishing industry needed straight men to read more fiction as a purely economic matter, Mr. Manning focused instead on the social benefits of reading.

“It’s a problem if anyone isn’t taking advantage of an incredible artistic medium,” he said. “It’s hurtful not to be well-rounded.”

In an effort to get more people — yes, among them, men — to pick up his books, Mr. Manning is trying to make his own back catalog speak more to the culture at large. He has commissioned Taylor Sheridan, the creator of such man-approved shows and movies as “Yellowstone” and “Sicario,” to write the introduction to a new edition of Larry McMurtry’s classic western, “Lonesome Dove.” (Another guy-friendly introduction to an old title: the Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich on Hunter S. Thompson’s “Screwjack.”)

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Simon & Schuster asked Lars Ulrich of Metallica to write an intro to a work of Hunter S. Thompson’s. Kevin Winter/Getty Images

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And asked Taylor Sheridan, the creator of “Yellowstone,” to write the introduction to a new edition of Larry McMurtry’s “Lonesome Dove.” Monica Schipper/Getty Images

Mr. Manning might be happy to reach a book club like the one Andy Spackman, 46, started in the Lawrence, Kan., area three years ago. A former construction worker married to the best-selling memoirist Sarah Smarsh, Mr. Spackman said he felt that he did not have anyone to talk to about books, and that a book club might be a good way to bond with other men.

“I’m always seeing women out doing things and being friendlier toward each other than men are,” he said.

Since convening the group, the men have read Cormac McCarthy’s “Blood Meridian,” Donna Tartt’s “The Secret History” and James McBride’s “The Good Lord Bird,” among others. Dissecting and reassembling the ideas in these books, Mr. Spackman said, has led to a level of depth and intimacy with other men that he never got from inviting friends over to play video games, or from hanging out at the bar.

That does not mean, however, that there is no role for that time-tested male social lubricant, and subject of much great writing by men.

“Full disclosure,” Mr. Spackman said. “There is alcohol at the book club.”

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Almost all publishing is controlled by far left women who squash anything that appeals to men or challenges their batshit progressive beliefs, and refuse to publish books by normal men. As a result, there's been a massive dearth of literature that has appealed to men for decades at this point, and as a result, men largely don't want to read anymore. There's a reason why most the men I know who read typically consume non-fiction, old books, philosophy, and foreign books that have been translated. Like with all entertainment in the Anglosphere, the problem is that women took it over and ruined it, so men had to find alternatives; the reason why they bitch about that is because they want to force men like me to consume their wretched propaganda, not find alternatives.

Also thanks for all the recommendations in the comments, they will keep me busy for a while.

Add this, and then look up the regular Hugo/Nebula/World Fantasy award winners/nominees up to 1990.

That covers almost all of the classic fantasy and SF you'd want. For Horror, I'd recommend looking up Lovecraft and the Weird Tales magazine regulars as well. Also, Lovecraft wrote an essay on horror lit that's still well regarded. He talks about a lot of classics here too.



For crime fiction, start with the '20s and Black Mask magazine. For mysteries, it depends on which flavor you like. Whodunnits? You have Doyle, Christie, Carr, Stout, Biggers, and so on. For hardboiled stuff, go with Hammett, Chandler, Macdonald, and etc.

There is description for reason and there's purple prose. I find I can pretty much tell on page 1 if the entire book is going to be worthwhile or not — the author never becomes a better writer halfway in.

An example of description for reason is something like Farewell to Arms where he's laid up in the hospital while troops pass by to go to the frontline. The narrator gives us some floral prose about the autumn leaves falling from the trees into the water. That's not purple, or pointless, though. It's a metaphor for the young soldiers who are going off to die in the height of their youth and beauty.

Of course, Hemingway wrote that and he's a white guy. He would not be allowed to get a book deal today. He'd be a Delicious Tacos-style self-published obscure figure at best.

I'd wager it makes all these women and faggots mald that they're competing with all the dead writers that still outsell them.

Well, the only thing separating Harlan Ellison from David Stebbins was having writing talent. He was a litigious asshole with an explosive temper. Even told a fan who sent him mail essentially, "fuck off, you sending me this fanmail is interrupting my work".

He also groped a woman on stage at a convention; got banned from Texas A&M for calling their ROTC cadets "the next generation of Nazis"; and mailed a dead woodchuck to someone who pissed him off.

Fuck Ellison, he was a bastard.

Didn't he grope Connie Willis? I know she's known for having the most Hugo/Nebula awards from the 80s-90s. I've heard she's one of the last of the "greats" to come out, before everything went completely to shit.


Speaking on the lack of men buying or reading novels... I don't even think there's a bookstore in my city any more. We may have a couple boutiques that have a couple racks of old paperbacks geared toward women, and the book sections at Wal-Mart, but our Chapters has been closed since the pandemic and the one indy bookstore closed when the rent in their building went up.
Sure there's kindle's and stuff but I don't think most men want to read things on a shitty, proprietary purpose built tablet with specs from a decade or more ago.
I know I'm adding to the issue, I can't even remember the last novel I bought.
If you're in America, you probably have a library with a used bookstore. . .
 
If you're in America, you probably have a library with a used bookstore. . .
Mine does that once a year or so, a big book sale either on the street if the weather is nice or in a mall if it's wet and miserable. Outside of that one, maybe 2 days a year if they have to fundraise, there's no books for sale and the library is full of junkies and meth-heads. A real shame, because it used to be nice, now it's just another safe injection site.
 
The problem affecting books is the same as the problem affecting movies and television: the people who now produce, publish, write, and edit books are boring. They are men and women who have never faced the consequences of their actions because they have never done anything of consequence. They are people who think that blending fact and fiction is some trendy postmodern thing when it is actually trite and annoying. Or, worst of all, they are deluded and do not realize what they're doing. Worst of all are the people who self-insert, who are now legion in creative industries. When the author is a boring, sheltered twat who has done nothing except go to college and get a boring job, they cannot write anything interesting.

Engaged literature, the kind of stuff dealing with the issues of the day, has been around for centuries at this point. What writers do not realize is that these kinds of books do not stand the test of time. There is a reason that people still read Dostoevsky and there is a reason that no one reads Gentleman's Agreement. If your story is too topical, no one understands the context of what's going on.
 
Well, the only thing separating Harlan Ellison from David Stebbins was having writing talent. He was a litigious asshole with an explosive temper. Even told a fan who sent him mail essentially, "fuck off, you sending me this fanmail is interrupting my work".

He also groped a woman on stage at a convention; got banned from Texas A&M for calling their ROTC cadets "the next generation of Nazis"; and mailed a dead woodchuck to someone who pissed him off.

Fuck Ellison, he was a bastard.
We also have a thread on how awful science fiction writers are as people. Clarke was a nonce, the Hugo awards is like concentrated insanity amd degeneracy. There’s something about sci fi amd fantasy that attracts the crazy.
Cannot recommend the anthologies enough - they’re all cheap as chips on kindle.
 
Because today's writers are hacks, add to the fact most folks are illiterate and proud of it, some of them even say reading is white supremacy or some shit
I tried to join a book club. All of them were either gay, communist, or gay communists.

Seriously. My local library only reads le heckin' queer chungus stories, and the only bookstore that hosts a club is openly Marxist communist. I wonder if they know what commies did to intellectuals.
S'okay, Bro. That wasn't real communism.

And they will never see the real one. Only off shoots and different "versions" of them based on identity in an endless true Scotsman game.
 
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The thing is that gullible (NPC's) associate books as being "smarter" than movies or music due to the "reading skill". While reading is a skill and just starting at a screen is not, the content of a book can be just as retarded or even worse than a goyslop movie.
i often think of this Dilbert strip whenever reading and intelligence is brought up
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Mine does that once a year or so, a big book sale either on the street if the weather is nice or in a mall if it's wet and miserable. Outside of that one, maybe 2 days a year if they have to fundraise, there's no books for sale and the library is full of junkies and meth-heads. A real shame, because it used to be nice, now it's just another safe injection site.
Oh yeah. I'd recommend an e-reader. If you still want books, you can check online for deals. Ebay lots, thriftbooks, pangobooks, etc.

The problem affecting books is the same as the problem affecting movies and television: the people who now produce, publish, write, and edit books are boring. They are men and women who have never faced the consequences of their actions because they have never done anything of consequence. They are people who think that blending fact and fiction is some trendy postmodern thing when it is actually trite and annoying. Or, worst of all, they are deluded and do not realize what they're doing. Worst of all are the people who self-insert, who are now legion in creative industries. When the author is a boring, sheltered twat who has done nothing except go to college and get a boring job, they cannot write anything interesting.

Engaged literature, the kind of stuff dealing with the issues of the day, has been around for centuries at this point. What writers do not realize is that these kinds of books do not stand the test of time. There is a reason that people still read Dostoevsky and there is a reason that no one reads Gentleman's Agreement. If your story is too topical, no one understands the context of what's going on.

I forget who said it, but someone said good science fiction/fantasy is all allegory.

There's some truth to that.

But also, there's a good reason as to why we're still reading Sherlock Holmes and etc. Genre fiction gets read, but "topical" fiction gets thrown out. All the "female/racial/etc" diaspora fiction? That's thrown out.

Fuck me, I'm a little mad. I found a novel by Ernest Gaines called "A Gathering of Old Men" and it's heralded as some race/black lit thing but it's written in the 80s about a group of old men found over a dead white boy's body in a '70s Bayou plantation. This shit's automatically got an interesting premise, it reeks of a crime/etc. style story, and I'm just wondering why they don't talk about any of the more interesting stuff written by black/mexican/asian/etc. authors back in the middle of the 20th century that isn't some weird fixation on identity.

We also have a thread on how awful science fiction writers are as people. Clarke was a nonce, the Hugo awards is like concentrated insanity amd degeneracy. There’s something about sci fi amd fantasy that attracts the crazy.
Cannot recommend the anthologies enough - they’re all cheap as chips on kindle.
Clarke's lucky that all the nonce allegations came out after he died, so it's all up in the air.

I think SF/F attracts weirdos because nerds are kinda too inviting and nice.
 
Black Company or Garett, PI series. Both by Glen Cook but very different.

Otherwise fuck it, Jurassic Park is an all time classic.
Just put the first Garrett, P.I. on hold for myself, at the recommendation of others earlier in this thread. Astonishingly, I had to ship this in from halfway across the state because my library has absolutely NONE of the authors you guys recommended to me, or seemingly any male fantasy fiction at all- they don’t even have Dresden Files! We’ve got room for fucking Bob the Drag Queen, children’s biographies about RuPaul, and books about how to be a witch (all catalogued by me today) but no room for the Dresden Files?
 
We got the Owen Meany book in one of my high school English classes and a friend of mine identified so much with the titular character that he went to a military academy. Which just made no sense to me at all because in the book, the kid dies of a grenade attack in a bathroom or some weird shit. I identified more with the main character who cuts off his own finger to avoid being drafted into a slave war for ZOG.
Schools need to include more war novels into the curriculum.

Some class at my school got to read Catch-22, and after reading it, I envy them. That book is a riot. It's like a military-themed Dilbert (and the similarities between the corporate world and the military are uncanny; I've personally had a Colonel Cathcart for a supervisor).
We also have a thread on how awful science fiction writers are as people. Clarke was a nonce, the Hugo awards is like concentrated insanity amd degeneracy. There’s something about sci fi amd fantasy that attracts the crazy.
I know. I wrote the OP.
 
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My observation of why there are so many awful books, is because writing is the most accessible art form. Most people are literate, but very few can actually write. With visual art, it's immediately obvious if something looks like slop, but hylics can use 20,000 words to say absolutely nothing important.
 
I like how this has turned into a book thread.
Solaris, by Stanislaw lem is amazing,
The Mote in God’s eye by Larry Niven amd David pournell is great.
I was recommended ‘blindsight’ by Peter watts and I enjoyed that too.
 
Fuck me, I'm a little mad. I found a novel by Ernest Gaines called "A Gathering of Old Men" and it's heralded as some race/black lit thing but it's written in the 80s about a group of old men found over a dead white boy's body in a '70s Bayou plantation. This shit's automatically got an interesting premise, it reeks of a crime/etc. style story, and I'm just wondering why they don't talk about any of the more interesting stuff written by black/mexican/asian/etc. authors back in the middle of the 20th century that isn't some weird fixation on identity.
If it has any "problematic" language in it, it's out. There is a reason no one reads Native Son anymore.
 
This is also a question on which is your favorite fantasy or scifi book. I do read fiction books everyday in my job. I'm always looking for more interesting shit.

You can't say mistborn

For SF I have to go with Hamilton's Commonwealth Duology, Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained.

One of most truly ALIEN alien races conceived in it right from its initial evolution to how it impacts the story (spoiler free in this bitch) as well as a very plausible human society that could develop should two key technologies ever be realized: wormhole 'portals' between spaces and brain uploads and storage giving essentially immortality. Best space opera of all time imo.

For slightly more highbrow space opera, you can't go wrong with Dan Simmons 's classic Hugo and Nebula winning (back when that ment something) Hyperion Cantos. Hyperion, Fall of Hyperion, Endimyon and Rise of Endimyon. Though I think they kind of decline in awesomeness between the first (which deserved every accolade it got) and last, the whole thing is a compelling and grand story heavily influenced by the poetry of John Keats. Fantastic stuff.

For more of a blend of SF and fantasy with a very interesting take on the mythological creatures of Western Europe, particularly the Irish cycles about the Tuatha de Dannan and Firbolg. I suggest Julian May's Saga of the Exiles: The Many-Coloured Land, The Golden Torc, The Nonborn King and The Adversary. For SF written in the 80s the sf elements still hold up well and the take on metaphysical powers is highly original for the time and really make the stories. There are several more novels going over the history of the world leading up to the events of the Saga but you will want to read that first.

That should keep you in awesome reading for a while!
 
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Yahdon Israel, center, and members of his “Fiction Revival” book club, aimed at inspiring straight men to read more fiction. Porsalin Hindsman-Israel
I'm kind of impressed. Apparently books blinds a&n to racism. Maybe I missed it but I skimmed through the thread and saw nothing about how goofy that white guy is in the back at this obvious book club for niggers.
 
I like how this has turned into a book thread.
Solaris, by Stanislaw lem is amazing,
The Mote in God’s eye by Larry Niven amd David pournell is great.
I was recommended ‘blindsight’ by Peter watts and I enjoyed that too.
Blindsight's on Watts website, for free.

It was either going to turn into a book thread or a man-woman hate thread.

Wildside Press' Megapacks are 99 cents on the kindle store and usually have a ton of stuff in them. Often it's public domain stuff, but Wildside holds the licenses for a lot of older writers like JOhn W. Campbell, Frank Belknap Long, and Lin Carter. It's all worthwhile. They've got like a hundred anthologies of old SF alone. This also includes Betancourt (the owner) and his interviews with major SF authors like Niven.

If it has any "problematic" language in it, it's out. There is a reason no one reads Native Son anymore.
Well yeah, it's why Huckleberry Finn is being phased out.

Just put the first Garrett, P.I. on hold for myself, at the recommendation of others earlier in this thread. Astonishingly, I had to ship this in from halfway across the state because my library has absolutely NONE of the authors you guys recommended to me, or seemingly any male fantasy fiction at all- they don’t even have Dresden Files! We’ve got room for fucking Bob the Drag Queen, children’s biographies about RuPaul, and books about how to be a witch (all catalogued by me today) but no room for the Dresden Files?
That's weird. Try looking up Ursula le Guin, Octavia Butler, and Ray Bradbury/Kurt Vonnegut. If not a single one of them shows up, I'd be surprised.

For SF I have to go with Hamilton's Commonwealth Duology, Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained.

One of most truly ALIEN alien races conceived in it right from its initial evolution to how it impacts the story (spoiler free in this bitch) as well as a very plausible human society that could develop should two key technologies ever be realized: wormhole 'portals' between spaces and brain uploads and storage giving essentially immortality. Best space opera of all time imo.

I've heard mixed receptions on Hamilton's work being very very long.
For slightly more highbrow space opera, you can't go wrong with Dan Simmons 's classic Hugo and Nebula winning (back when that ment something) Hyperion Cantos (Hyperion, Fall of Hyperion, Endimyon and Rise of Endimyon. Though I think they kind of decline in awesomeness between the first (which deserved every accolade it got) and last, the whole thing is a compelling and grand story heavily influenced by the poetry of John Keats. Fantastic stuff.
IIRC, isn't Simmons like the last of the major grandmasters before the title went to shit.
For more of a blend of SF and fantasy with a very interesting take on the mythological creature of Western Europe, particularly the Irish cycles about the Tuatha de Dannan and Firbolg. I suggest Julian May's Saga of the Exiles: The Many-Coloured Land, The Golden Torc, The Nonborn King and The Adversary. For SF written in the 80s the sf elements still hold up well and the take on metaphysical powers is highly original for the time and really make the stories. There are several more novels going over the history of the world leading up to the events of the Saga but you will want to read that first.

That should keep you in awesome reading for a while!
Julian May also seems to show up in thrift shops fairly often. Never thought too much of it because it seemed like more high fantasy stuff.
 
You know what, I'll take the advice. I'm in the mood to re-read Demian, a good novel, written like a hundred years ago.
The only thing I've seen of that book was an excerpt of a deeply homoerotic interaction between Emil and Demian that somebody posted on /lcg/ at one point
 
This is also a question on which is your favorite fantasy or scifi book. I do read fiction books everyday in my job. I'm always looking for more interesting shit.

You can't say mistborn
Gonna have to be Sum of All Fears or Starship Troopers.

I love that Tom Clancy was able to create a fantasy universe where the United States Government was staffed by competent people who give a damn.

Heinlein was able to call out why western society would fail 50 years before it happened. And he invented power armor. Good book.
 
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