Why do leftists support Palestine?

[Dylan]

I'm not a lefty, I'm far from being one, I'm essentially the opposite of it.
...and I supporr palestine. Yes I do.
I'm well aware of what hamas is doing, but I'm aware of how nuanced is the situation.
I remember candid documentaries, interviews, leaks of jews being lawless savages to palestinians. I have a lot to say on the subjec, but given all the shortcomings of palestinians I can't help but feel empathy for them, meanwhile it's hard to do so for the israelites even if i try hard.

 

[Rabid Northman]

palestine decriminalized homosexuality in the 60s

Right in a way, they dropped the British mandate criminal code in the West Bank in 1951 when Jordan annexed it and implemented their own penal code. In the Gaza strip no such act was done so it's kind of up in the air there. It's been reported that they are not welcoming there to the homos though and a while back they executed one of Hamas's commanders for being gay.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

Grow up dude, the laws aren't for them

i thought the obvious sarcasm was.... obvious.

was referencing this

source: idk i heard about it on twitter once

prease rearn to read otoyosan

 

[Enoch Emery]

Because the USA supports Israel retard



Wasn't always the case

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Leftists want to be part of the Islamic Slave Trade so badly over being conditioned to hate their race and view their freedoms as selfish.

America supports Israel and leftists hate America so neoconservatives support Israel while neoliberals support Palestine. Both of them are in the wrong. Only ordinary citizens who do nothing wrong are in the right.

 

[Whatevermancer]

It's a mystery.

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

Because the far left is so fucking delusional. These idiots are the same one who feel empathy for violent black/hispanic criminals and pedophiles. Leftists are braindead from the consumer culture and they feel empathy only for the worst types of people in the world.

Want a example of their stupidity and retardation. Look up Queers for Palestine. These fucking fags don’t realize that Palestine is ruled by jihadis like Hamas who hang and drag gay people, and throwing them off buildings(they only stopped only because all the tall buildings were destroyed). I still don’t know why Israel is hated by leftists, despite Israel being more pro-lgbt than the rest of the middle east.

 

[Syaoran Li]

The reason why so many American leftists specifically support the Palestinians and hate Israel is not just viewing the Israeli Jews as White colonizers (though that's part of it) but also because a lot of their views are heavily informed by the paradigm of the mainstream right of the 1980's-2000's, which was a mix of neoconservatism and Evangelical Protestant fundamentalism.

A lot of Millennial wokesters go that way due to growing up under the fundies and wanting to fight back against it and get revenge for it, which is why they were a lot more susceptible to academia's lefty brainwashing tactics compared to the Baby Boomers or Generation X. Getting fucked over hard by the Great Recession also didn't help matters on that end.

Part of that "neocons and fundies" paradigm of mainstream Bush-era conservatism was Christian Zionism and support for Israel not only due to geopolitical pragmatism but also because they believe Israel's existence is important for Biblical prophecy to be fulfilled.

The Israelis also became more amenable to these austere Protestant Christians as an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" scenario and the fact that both the Jews and the Christians in that area view Islam as the bigger threat.

Seeing all of these right-wing figures like Jack Chick, John Hagee, Sean Hannity, Pat Robertson, Karl Rove, and the like all suck Israel's cock had firmly implemented a staunch sense of Anti-Zionism and low-key Anti-Semitism within these atheistic wokesters who still want to get back at the fundies for ruining their childhoods back in the 90's and 2000's. These people are so pissed off at the fundies of old that they're going out of their way to make all of the Religious Right's worst fears come true out of spite.

It's exactly as petty and autistic as it sounds.

 

[Linako 2.0]

Because the far left is so fucking delusional. These idiots are the same one who feel empathy for violent black/hispanic criminals and pedophiles. Leftists are braindead from the consumer culture and they feel empathy only for the worst type of people in the world.

Want a example of their stupidity and retardation. Look up Queers for Palestine. These fucking fags don’t realize that Palestine is ruled by jihadis like Hamas who hang and drag gay people, and throwing them off buildings(they only stopped only because all the tall buildings were destroyed). I still don’t know why Israel is hated by leftists, despite Israel being more pro-lgbt than the rest of the middle east.

isn't gay marriage illegal in Israel?

 

[WitchfyndeGeneral]

isn't gay marriage illegal in Israel?

I think they don’t allow gay marriage in Israel as of 2023, but unlike Palestine, Israel doesn’t kill people for being gay, but still, Palestinians are way more homophobic than Israelis, and yet leftists are throwing their support for Palestine.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

When I was young supporting Palestine was the thing cool, liberal progressive kids did.

You would have got lots of dirty looks if you were a young person supporting Israel.

Once upon a time, the whole Left vs. Right thing wasn't informed by intersectional post-structural bullshit and was pretty much about economics. People who simped for the USSR would simp for Palestine and people who simped for the US would simp for Israel.

I think this has been inherited by the neoideologies and then clumsily justified with words.

It's just as simple.

 

[Time 4 Guillotines]

Because Israel is commiting genocide against an indigenous community because of something something magic book says right of return and they're only capable of doing so because they have the backing of America, who is supporting them not just because magic book but because sucking them off hard enough will mean America will have an easier time projecting it's will onto the Middle East.
Despite the /pol/ memes, Israel is nothing but a satellite state of America

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I think they don’t allow gay marriage in Israel as of 2023, but unlike Palestine, Israel doesn’t kill people for being gay, but still, Palestinians are way more homophobic than Israelis, and yet leftists are throwing their support for Palestine.

Tel Aviv is a containment zone area much like Hong Kong is to China where they try to take a piece of the mediterranean hedonism cake that can be found in Spain, Italy and Greece, especially those sweet sweet pink dollars (see the Circuit Queens thread). It's a place choke full of muscled onlyfans faggots, white british basic girls (read: ugly entitled assholes) and some misguided retired expats.

Out of Tel-Aviv, you better hide the gay away.

Jerusalem, of all places, is a strange place though where there is a strong LGBT community as part of a rather active nightlife in the middle of what is otherwise a hotspot for not one, but two of the greatest religions and one really mean one.

 

[frozen_runner]

Leftists reflexively support the underdog in any situation. And if that causes some aspect of their ideology not to work, they hallucinate that the side they support is the underdog regardless of reality.

Case in point: a white kid in a majority black area is not the "majority" in any meaningful sense, but nuance is anathema to a shitlib, so they'll support the blacks in that situation no matter what they do.

Another example: the left hasn't been countercultural for decades, but they all believe and behave that they're the counterculture.

 

[The Ugly One]

Years ago, a somewhat self-aware leftist told me he can't help but reflexively support poor, brown people over rich, white people in any conflict, even when the side he supports is objectively opposed to every one of his values, and the side he opposes is largely sympathetic to them.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Because Israel is commiting genocide against an indigenous community because of something something magic book says right of return and they're only capable of doing so because they have the backing of America, who is supporting them not just because magic book but because sucking them off hard enough will mean America will have an easier time projecting it's will onto the Middle East.
Despite the /pol/ memes, Israel is nothing but a satellite state of America

Israel is the last beacon of hope for Middle East.

 

[Time 4 Guillotines]

Israel is the last beacon of hope for Middle East.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Because leftists are inherently pussies. Fucking Trantifas all talk about murder the rich and this and that but all the billionaires seem to be A-Okay.

 

[Ass to Ass]

When you're dumb enough to want gun control, taxpayer-funded abortions, socialism, and every other retarded policy that the average American leftist champions, it's not hard to say "but Palestine has been corralled into this tiny plot of land and Israel is bombing them!" Remember, this is despite the fact that Hamas refuses all peace offerings and openly state that they want to destroy Israel. Fatah is way better than Hamas, but of course, ask a leftist what Fatah is and they'll go "huh?"

It's bleeding heart syndrome. You start getting this pussy attitude where you feel bad for people, even if those people are evil, because you can't tell the difference between good and evil. All you can tell is what the talking heads tell you.

The talking heads tell the bleeding hearts that Israel is the aggressor and Palestine is the victim, so that's what the bleeding hearts believe.

 

[Kulee Baba]

When you're dumb enough to want gun control, taxpayer-funded abortions, socialism, and every other retarded policy that the average American leftist champions, it's not hard to say "but Palestine has been corralled into this tiny plot of land and Israel is bombing them!" Remember, this is despite the fact that Hamas refuses all peace offerings and openly state that they want to destroy Israel. Fatah is way better than Hamas, but of course, ask a leftist what Fatah is and they'll go "huh?"

It's bleeding heart syndrome. You start getting this pussy attitude where you feel bad for people, even if those people are evil, because you can't tell the difference between good and evil. All you can tell is what the talking heads tell you.

The talking heads tell the bleeding hearts that Israel is the aggressor and Palestine is the victim, so that's what the bleeding hearts believe.

Couldn't have said it better myself. A major part of the far left is a cultlike devotion to pacifism. And pacifism at least in the western liberal sense is built on such bullshit grounds. Because their pacifism is "conditional pacifism", and you are only permitted to defend yourself if you are in immediate harm's way. I think anyone should be able to see what's wrong with conditional pacifism, defining what is and isn't an immediate threat is completely subjective. If I'm one of those pacifists can I shoot someone if they're walking up to me with a knife in their hands yelling obscenities, or do I wait until they at least throw the first stab at me? Am I even permitted to have a gun or any weapon to protect myself?

One of your OG Western Liberal thinkers was Bertrand Russell. And Bertrand Russell was an idealistic idiot. I love this segment from Wikipedia:

He jumps from going oh "England just be nice to the Nazis as they state clearly that state that they want to invade." to "Oh no these guys are going to take over Europe well you better fight them!" A lot of people like to unfairly rag on Neville Chamberlain as a pussy for his political tactic of appeasement, but Chamberlain avoided the war for rearmament. Chamberlain was probably right seeing how France was completely steamrolled by Germany. Had anyone actually listened to Russell the UK government would have been overthrown and Edward VIII would have been installed as the head of Vichy UK.

So to the modern day Israel is in the wrong from a left wing mindset because Hamas is simply no longer in the current position to attack Israel. To the leftist Israel is in the wrong because they're committing violence when they're no longer under immediate attack. And in this way I have way more respect for Hamas and the people that fully support it than ever I do for leftists. Because Hamas makes their political beliefs clear, they're not for a "Two-State Solution" and they do not recognize the "State of Israel", they want to reclaim the land of Palestine. The leftist mindset isn't actually derived on any true convictions (historically leftists including Russell supported Israel) it is derived from a silly mindset that political retaliation & intervention are implicitly evil.

If the roles in Israel were flipped with Palestinian government in full control and there was a Zionist faction who used terrorism (and that literally did happen because God the British were so reckless) the left wing would be the biggest supporters of Israel. They would be chanting for Israel nonstop. The left aren't really for peace, they're for chaos.

Seriously remember Jamal Khashoggi? Remember how the left went nuts over that and how the US should put Saudi Arabia's MBS to trial? Boy did that get swept under the rug when Biden's Admin had to wake up to reality that Saudis have a 2.2 Trillion GDP and if we seriously made a grandstand against the country that supplies the USA with 7% of its oil we'd seriously harm ourselves. That's US leftism, virtue signal as hard as hell but if there's any negative consequences well flip sides. It'll never be demonstrated better than Barack Obama schooling Mitt Romney, "THE COLD WAR IS OVER"