Mr Zhukov
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Recently, I've been thinking about why exactly does the political extreme tend to attract the same people.
With the far left, you usually see females who are rabid feminists or defenders of the "oppressed".
With the far right, you usually see young or middle aged men espousing reactionary views about "traditional" values, nationalism or incel tier takes.
And I've come up with ideas as to why.
Far left
The people who are part of the far left tend to always come to the defense of what they see as oppressed peoples. Countless examples include defending black people when blacks themselves don't get offended, as well as calling something someone said "trans-phobic" "fat-phobic" "racist" and so forth.
I believe this is due to their obsession with their self image. They want to be seen as good people, standing up for something but something not too difficult. This is why they get offended and get all high and mighty over petty things. They'll only concern themselves with issues that are popular, nothing which will not give them clout. This may be why you see these people on twitter more than in the real world.
Far right
The people who are part of the far right tend to be either young men or middle aged men. These people often talk of their distaste for current society and feel alienated by it. These people will talk about wanting to return to old ways, a return to nationalism, a return to traditional gender roles, a return to religion and sometimes outright imperialism, fascism or monarchy. Examples such as Keith Woods, Endevour, Morgoths Review, Nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer
I believe that this is due to the ideas associated with the far right being very male orientated. It attracts young men, who in real life are insecure about themselves as a means to show how much of a "man" they are. Watching Endevour, he will talk of fighting for people like Napoleon and war in general as if its a glorious thing to do, never thinking they could be the person who is shot dead first doing nothing of note. Notice that they have never seen combat or what war actually is. Their views are similar to those of young men off to war, before seeing it firsthand.
Their view of the past is skewed or glorified as if there was no reason for past ideas to be discarded. Indeed, nationalism or other ideas these people follow may sound intriguing when people are shamed to be proud of their country in this day and age, but not to the extent these people do. Nationalism and patriotism is indeed a good thing, but not if taken to an extreme.
There are also middle aged men in the movement. These are 30-40 year olds who are likely single and also insecure over themselves. They will make themselves look "macho" , never show their faces and seem to have tantrums at any slight issue as a blight on society. They wish for traditional male dominant societies, and never see any issues with themselves. They pride themselves as being "alpha males" and look down on "betas" when in reality they aren't at all what they talk of. A normal man would not be trying so hard to show they are "manly".
In many ways, it is akin to what CS Lewis was talking about. While he talked about adults acting really grown up, people in the far right use it to act very manly.
A normal man would not flex or go on about how "manly" or "strong" he is, they would be secure enough already to not require the acceptance of others.
So why is this?
Youth have not yet found their way in the world and are developing who they are. This is why the political extreme attracts them. It gives them an identity, a purpose, a way to act "good" or heroic and gives them a enemy.
The political extreme also allows for the socially inept or those who have been left out in society to hide their insecurities or failings to create an image of themselves which is not true.
The far left give people a chance to look after the weak.
The far right give people a chance to look very "manly" or "strong".
It may also be that the political extreme is a place for both genders to be the perfect version of that gender.
Women tend to be caring towards others.
The ideal man is seen as strong, independent and shows little emotion.
So what do you think?
What do you think is the reason people go to the political extreme?
Is it for the reasons I have given or something different?
With the far left, you usually see females who are rabid feminists or defenders of the "oppressed".
With the far right, you usually see young or middle aged men espousing reactionary views about "traditional" values, nationalism or incel tier takes.
And I've come up with ideas as to why.
Far left
The people who are part of the far left tend to always come to the defense of what they see as oppressed peoples. Countless examples include defending black people when blacks themselves don't get offended, as well as calling something someone said "trans-phobic" "fat-phobic" "racist" and so forth.
I believe this is due to their obsession with their self image. They want to be seen as good people, standing up for something but something not too difficult. This is why they get offended and get all high and mighty over petty things. They'll only concern themselves with issues that are popular, nothing which will not give them clout. This may be why you see these people on twitter more than in the real world.
Far right
The people who are part of the far right tend to be either young men or middle aged men. These people often talk of their distaste for current society and feel alienated by it. These people will talk about wanting to return to old ways, a return to nationalism, a return to traditional gender roles, a return to religion and sometimes outright imperialism, fascism or monarchy. Examples such as Keith Woods, Endevour, Morgoths Review, Nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer
I believe that this is due to the ideas associated with the far right being very male orientated. It attracts young men, who in real life are insecure about themselves as a means to show how much of a "man" they are. Watching Endevour, he will talk of fighting for people like Napoleon and war in general as if its a glorious thing to do, never thinking they could be the person who is shot dead first doing nothing of note. Notice that they have never seen combat or what war actually is. Their views are similar to those of young men off to war, before seeing it firsthand.
Their view of the past is skewed or glorified as if there was no reason for past ideas to be discarded. Indeed, nationalism or other ideas these people follow may sound intriguing when people are shamed to be proud of their country in this day and age, but not to the extent these people do. Nationalism and patriotism is indeed a good thing, but not if taken to an extreme.
There are also middle aged men in the movement. These are 30-40 year olds who are likely single and also insecure over themselves. They will make themselves look "macho" , never show their faces and seem to have tantrums at any slight issue as a blight on society. They wish for traditional male dominant societies, and never see any issues with themselves. They pride themselves as being "alpha males" and look down on "betas" when in reality they aren't at all what they talk of. A normal man would not be trying so hard to show they are "manly".
In many ways, it is akin to what CS Lewis was talking about. While he talked about adults acting really grown up, people in the far right use it to act very manly.
A normal man would not flex or go on about how "manly" or "strong" he is, they would be secure enough already to not require the acceptance of others.
So why is this?
Youth have not yet found their way in the world and are developing who they are. This is why the political extreme attracts them. It gives them an identity, a purpose, a way to act "good" or heroic and gives them a enemy.
The political extreme also allows for the socially inept or those who have been left out in society to hide their insecurities or failings to create an image of themselves which is not true.
The far left give people a chance to look after the weak.
The far right give people a chance to look very "manly" or "strong".
It may also be that the political extreme is a place for both genders to be the perfect version of that gender.
Women tend to be caring towards others.
The ideal man is seen as strong, independent and shows little emotion.
So what do you think?
What do you think is the reason people go to the political extreme?
Is it for the reasons I have given or something different?
