Why do so many "anti SJW" have negative sentiment to disabled and transgender people?

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Tiana

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Where I live right wingers have made repeated cuts to welfare. I've noticed that anti SJW people almost never talk about the way many disabled people are categorized as "burdens" and "parasites" or how people get by when needing additional support. What is it about people thinking there's more than 2 genders that is more important than the way money is affecting people's lives the world over? Just recently a person with a condition who I know was denied an organ transplant because they didn't want to waste funds on someone "like that". I've noticed that people who never shut up about feminists/feminism often don't actually care about "men" as individual human beings, but rather collectively within the whole anti feminist narrative. They will complain all day about some guy who got screwed over in a court situation, but that same guy could become disabled, sick, become a drug addict, and he'd be chucked into the undesirables pile. I know some people may deny, but often, the reason why people throw around "autism" and "Down syndrome" as insults is because they see people like that as subhuman to begin with.

Speaking of anti feminist attitudes, it's bizarre that many people who hate feminists/feminism will suddenly put all that aside when they hear a feminist being shitty and petty to a trans person. It's pretty creepy that such a huge issue can be made about the over the top ideas some feminists have (as well as outright male bashing and hatred), only to then sweep that aside and unite with their intolerance to trans people. I don't know any trans people, but what I'd like to know is, why should I care? Even with people who believe there's multiple genders, why does that matter? I've seen some people make the excuse that it's about freedom of speech, but that's not true. If that were true it would be fine since I don't think people's pronoun preferences should have anything to do with law, but most instances of talking about different genders and pronouns, as far as I've seen, don't have anything to do with law and free speech, someone just has to be trans, or say they think there's more than 2 genders, and that's enough for other people to start bitching. What is it I'm supposed to be worried about? Especially since it's only been over the past few years that the whole trans thing has come into the limelight in a way it never did before, it hasn't had the chance to find footing really. Why should I be bothered if a guy wants me to call him she? The only thing I don't like is when children are rushed into adopting a definite "identity" regarding gender.
 
"say they think there aren't more than 2 genders, and that's enough for other people to start bitching"

Pretty much everything you said can be inverted and applied to "the other side". It's like shitty Michigan/Ohio St jokes.

Q: Why do all the trees in Michigan lean south?
A: Because Ohio sucks.
Q: Why do all the trees in Ohio lean north?
A: Because Michigan sucks.

If you make sweeping and unspecific generalizations about people you end up with your line of thinking.
 
"say they think there aren't more than 2 genders, and that's enough for other people to start bitching"

Pretty much everything you said can be inverted and applied to "the other side". It's like shitty Michigan/Ohio St jokes.

Q: Why do all the trees in Michigan lean south?
A: Because Ohio sucks.
Q: Why do all the trees in Ohio lean north?
A: Because Michigan sucks.

If you make sweeping and unspecific generalizations about people you end up with your line of thinking.

SJW and anti SJW aren't real things though. But most people who are "anti SJW" do go on about the whole gender thing, but can't justify why it matters.
 
I could care less if someone says there are more than two genders. They're objectively wrong though, and I no more have to humor them I do flat earthers.

I'm willing to call a transwoman she, or a transman he. However I'll never call someone xe or xor or what the fuck ever, because I don't have to coddle their stupid delusions.
 
I know some people may deny, but often, the reason why people throw around "autism" and "Down syndrome" as insults is because they see people like that as subhuman to begin with.

I beg to differ. I argue that you confuse shitposting with a fully formed opinion about people with autism and other developmental disabilities.

When most people online shitpost about exceptional people, etc., they're not referring to every person diagnosed with I/DD. They are referring to individuals like Chris-Chan and Jonathan Ross, folks who disguise their shitty behavior and deliberate flaunting of social convention behind a diagnosis.

There's an interesting conversation to be had about attitudes towards low-functioning autists, those with severe communication deficits who rarely have the capacity to contribute to Internet content, and high-functioning autists, people like Chris-Chan who develop bizarre lifestyles and flaunt them online. That conversation rarely occurs, as the kneejerk reaction of extremism is to inflate both subtypes. That goes for people on the extreme left and the extreme right end of the political spectrum.

I suggest you delve a little further into the public content produced by those people who are the subject of mockery and see what behavior they exhibit to earn such abuse. Chances are, they're an HFA who was never given the guidance needed to conduct themselves with caution online. Sad, to be sure, but the mockery they receive is not a referendum on how every "right-wing" person feels about the disabled.

I don't deny there's a fraction of hardcore eugenicists in any community (the right AND the left - look up the history of Planned Parenthood some time) but you're leaping to conclusions when you assume that a reference to "autists" is an insult against every person with autism.
 
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