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Why do you hate China?
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Not to be rude when you tried to answer my question, but I don't feel like this exactly answers it. This article names one of the leaders, but only addresses the event in so far as to call it a "political turmoil". Are you allowed to claim that China killed some protesters there?
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I feel like that still doesn’t answer my question. Irrespective of whether or not it really happened, are you allowed to say it happened as the West said it did? If you want a concession on my part for the sake of fairness, in the West we cannot say that the Holocaust didn’t happen much in the same way I suspect you can’t say that Tiananmen square massacre happened.
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Not in a public platform, because it's considered Western propaganda. China is strict on Western propaganda.
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What are the punishments? In the West, Holocaust denial usually gets 10 year prison time, sometimes more. David Irving is a famous example (though he luckily got only 3 years in Austria (under very retarded charges) that got expunged (on appeal) in exchange for him getting banned from Austria)
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Up to 5 Years. But you could be tried under espionage laws if it's found you had foreign state help or funding.
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Interesting. Thank you for your time answering my questions. Hopefully I didn’t annoy you with them.
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China drove Hollywood into submission further incentivising politically correct movies with lower age ratings.
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I don’t hate China. I like Chinese culture and people. Ancient China is very bad ass and is extremely underrated in the West. Growing up I was a sinoboo while all my friends thought samurai and Katanas were hot shit.
I just hate communism which I’d argue has attempted to destroy every culture that has existed, including Chinese culture. To be fair our own communists are actively destroying American culture. It’s why I hate American leftists with a burning passion. They like to cut down culture to make normies into subservient nigger cattle. My ideal world is one in which the politicians in DC and the CCP are hanging out and having a jolly old time. I would never fed post. The vaccine is 100% effective with no side effects and Epstein killed himself.
Many Americans such as myself see the old world order as being intrinsically linked between the American establishment and the CCP. An order which hollowed out American industry to save executives a few bucks. It’s been clear to anyone that paid attention that American elites salivate over the control that their Arab, Russian, and Chinese peers have over their respective peoples. So yeah a lot of people who don’t like the American establishment also hate the CCP.
Also it doesn’t help that the CCP are full of control freaks, so anarchists, libertarians, etc., flip out at the NBA, blizzard, Hollywood, and celebrities when they repeat party talking points or suck their cocks.
I’d argue if Japan didn’t fuck up China and gave Mao a chance to win the civil war, that China would’ve surpassed the US three decades ago. If China followed the path that South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan did, they’d be a nation unparalleled in terms of wealth, innovation, and power.
The CCPs iron fisted control over Chinese culture, people, and economy has been a disaster that is unparalleled. I’m not only talking of the countless lives lost to starvation or the number of abortions that occurred, but they’ve cultivated an environment of group think that stymies independence and in extension innovation. It’ll take decades if not centuries for China to recover from the one child act and the programming instilled into them by communism. I believe it’ll happen, assuming the world isn’t destroyed by then.
What happened to China should serve as a stark warning to all those of what the new world order would look like. A world in which the common man is a slave to the party elite. A world in which people could be sealed into their own apartments at the whims of a bureaucrat because of the flu. A world in which the 99% don’t own property. A world in which the average man is barred from investing his earnings as he sees fit. A world in which your traditional culture is hallowed out and crudely reshaped to fit the current party objectives. A world in which your spouse could be forced to have an abortion and to be castrated. A world in which you are fully subject to the fickle, feckless, and iron fisted bureaucrat. A world in which your spouse was aborted or adopted out to meet some backwards party quota.
The elites are rightfully afraid. They can smell a storm brewing.
I just hate communism which I’d argue has attempted to destroy every culture that has existed, including Chinese culture. To be fair our own communists are actively destroying American culture. It’s why I hate American leftists with a burning passion. They like to cut down culture to make normies into subservient nigger cattle. My ideal world is one in which the politicians in DC and the CCP are hanging out and having a jolly old time. I would never fed post. The vaccine is 100% effective with no side effects and Epstein killed himself.
Many Americans such as myself see the old world order as being intrinsically linked between the American establishment and the CCP. An order which hollowed out American industry to save executives a few bucks. It’s been clear to anyone that paid attention that American elites salivate over the control that their Arab, Russian, and Chinese peers have over their respective peoples. So yeah a lot of people who don’t like the American establishment also hate the CCP.
Also it doesn’t help that the CCP are full of control freaks, so anarchists, libertarians, etc., flip out at the NBA, blizzard, Hollywood, and celebrities when they repeat party talking points or suck their cocks.
I’d argue if Japan didn’t fuck up China and gave Mao a chance to win the civil war, that China would’ve surpassed the US three decades ago. If China followed the path that South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan did, they’d be a nation unparalleled in terms of wealth, innovation, and power.
The CCPs iron fisted control over Chinese culture, people, and economy has been a disaster that is unparalleled. I’m not only talking of the countless lives lost to starvation or the number of abortions that occurred, but they’ve cultivated an environment of group think that stymies independence and in extension innovation. It’ll take decades if not centuries for China to recover from the one child act and the programming instilled into them by communism. I believe it’ll happen, assuming the world isn’t destroyed by then.
What happened to China should serve as a stark warning to all those of what the new world order would look like. A world in which the common man is a slave to the party elite. A world in which people could be sealed into their own apartments at the whims of a bureaucrat because of the flu. A world in which the 99% don’t own property. A world in which the average man is barred from investing his earnings as he sees fit. A world in which your traditional culture is hallowed out and crudely reshaped to fit the current party objectives. A world in which your spouse could be forced to have an abortion and to be castrated. A world in which you are fully subject to the fickle, feckless, and iron fisted bureaucrat. A world in which your spouse was aborted or adopted out to meet some backwards party quota.
The elites are rightfully afraid. They can smell a storm brewing.
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Why would the CCP allow Americans to fund a lab without their consent or knowledge? There’s no way that they’d allow that.
Fauci should be prosecuted for his role in it but a lot of American and Chinese officials should be imprisoned for life for covid. Especially those that endorsed and enforced draconian lockdowns.
Has the same energy as when people say the holocaust didn’t happen despite Hitler calling for the death of jews, having the ability to kill Jews, and somehow not doing it, despite believing Germany to be in an existential war with Jews. Sure it’s hard to know how many people actually died because of the scale of it, but the Germans still genocided jews and killed dissidents on a mass scale. (Scholars shouldn’t be so dogmatic on the numbers and people should be allowed to challenge it without their lives being ruined).
It’s ok, the US had Kent, Mexico has Tlateloco, and China has Tiananmen. Is it really hard to believe that governments will shoot protesting students? Especially if they’re authoritarian?
The US does have its propaganda but like Epstein not killing itself it’s a meme. Americans aren’t deluded in thinking their government dindu nuffin. They just like to blame it on the other party, jews, and/or whites, depending on their political orientation. They also tend to have their preferred branches of government. Republicans tend to be pro-military, democrats like social workers and the irs, Mormons tend to join the fbi and cia for whatever reason, small towns often like their local police,etc.
Nah Russians are just shitty neighbors.
If history repeats itself they may sell you all Siberia when they realize they can’t hold it, can’t profit off it, and need cash.
Yeah it was stupid to overthrow a dictator. The instability that follows isn’t worth it, especially when it involves sand niggers.
The Ukrainians have a very valid reason to hate Russia. Not just with being occupied for decades but the whole holodomor thing.
Redditors with Ukrainian flags are still faggots though because they’ll follow anything the democrat party tells them to. It’s funny that some of them were stupid enough to volunteer and get blasted by a rocket or shot by an apc.
There are better examples you could’ve used like the United Fruit Company for one.
If it’s just propaganda then surely there’d be no harm in a small experiment. Pretend to convert to Islam and preach openly in the streets. From what I understand it’s mostly re-educational camps, but still fucked up.
The only reason the American establishment brings it up now is because it’s convenient. They were silent when they were profiting off of Chinese sweatshops.
To be fair I suspect there’s a global black market for organs and it’s not necessarily state backed, but a way for certain doctors and officials to make money on the side.
You’re not wrong. American socialists have ruined many cities, starting with Portland and San Francisco. It’s but one example of how communists turn everything they touch into shit.
I can read Russian news and Chinese if I wanted to. It helps that Hollywood is constantly trying to suck CCP cock. Its even easier considering the number of socialists in education, especially at the university level. But even so I can of my own violation watch CCP apologists on YouTube or TikTok.
Tldr all governments are shit. Some are shittier than others but they all stink the same.
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Oh I see it's the "You foreigners can't tell me my country is shit, that's my job" I'll stand back then.
And Fauci just didn't play a role. He was the Director of the NIH for 30+ years, the one that approved the gain-of-function research. Likely with WHO approval, since they have labs all over the world. He led the US response team. Even though he funded the outbreak in the first place.
Go look up all the articles of lab-leaks of research in the decades leading up to COVID.
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My mentor and curvaceous idol Christine Weston Chandler once said, " Now that I'm free from prison, I've matured and my tastes have changed. I only prefer fine china now. As smooth as an egg. Mudder left me her fine china before she died. Very clean, you could off it. "
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Damn OP must be paid overtime to spread propaganda on KF...
Do you really think you can convince anyone their way is wrong with the intelelectual equivalent of "Nuh huh!"`?
Do you really think you can convince anyone their way is wrong with the intelelectual equivalent of "Nuh huh!"`?
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You see, some of us don't know English properly.
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I like you guys because you implement actual socialism and make all the BreadTubers and báizǔo seethe. Plus you have government sanctioned trolls like Chen Weihua and I wish our government was as funny.
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Chinese people all look the same which confuses me and I hate things that confuse me.
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I do believe that we shouldn't take western info about China at face value, because of course it's in the interest to if any power (in this case, the West) to make its opponents look bad, even if it means lying. BUT it is severely damaging to the credibility of China simps to pretend China has done nothing wrong ever. They never admit that China, like every state, can make fuck ups too. There's always some excuse at hand. Their arguments also usually hinge on some black and white thinking or overreliance on pointing out hypocrisy. Oh, the US commits this atrocity too? So what? People would still side with the US if China does it more often and worse.
They are unfair with their comparisons: They often say that the US is uniquely guilty of killing the most number of people in modern times, but they never address the counterfactual. If China were the dominant world power in place of the US, how are they sure they wouldn't have committed the same level of atrocities?
They also keep cherrypicking: they will also often say that China is responsble for lifting millions out of poverty, conveniently ignoring the fact it only happened because they opened their markets and liberalized. It was selective liberalization, yes, but it is at the very best, an endorsement of state capitalism which is not communism. Similarly when it comes to data, they want us to believe that if statistics suggest anything bad, then it's western disinformation, but somehow we should take at face value anything that's positive.
If you're going to propagandize, make it believable at least and don't insult our intelligence. It's more convincing to characterize China as a lesser evil than the USA than to make it out to be some messianic force.
They are unfair with their comparisons: They often say that the US is uniquely guilty of killing the most number of people in modern times, but they never address the counterfactual. If China were the dominant world power in place of the US, how are they sure they wouldn't have committed the same level of atrocities?
They also keep cherrypicking: they will also often say that China is responsble for lifting millions out of poverty, conveniently ignoring the fact it only happened because they opened their markets and liberalized. It was selective liberalization, yes, but it is at the very best, an endorsement of state capitalism which is not communism. Similarly when it comes to data, they want us to believe that if statistics suggest anything bad, then it's western disinformation, but somehow we should take at face value anything that's positive.
If you're going to propagandize, make it believable at least and don't insult our intelligence. It's more convincing to characterize China as a lesser evil than the USA than to make it out to be some messianic force.
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Well who from China have you talked to?
Well just take the last 100 years for example. I'm pretty sure China didn't engage in any major wars. UK and US, certainly. And I think those same institutions are still in power.
If you want to go back to 1000 years ago when China was fighting over internal provinces, then go ahead.