Why does the artist community seems to attract the mentally ill? - It's rare to see a skilled artist who's also mentally well

[Judas Connor Moon]

I'm obsessed.

 

[Safir]

We got many cows from deviantart, tumblr, and twitter that draw weird shit and end up cows because of it. Comic artists like Pizzacake and some other careercows also end up here directly because of their drawings.

From my personal experience, the local art university in my area might as well be an asylum. I'm sure plenty of you that lives or work near an art university have ran into erratic people that went to that university.

Fandom artcows (zoos, anime, etc) on the online have an inflated sense of self-worth, no inhibitions, and insane fetishes, and publish their "work" for that reason. It's like the park flasher but with plausible deniability.

Artcows in education are either stupid+lazy+rich or stupid+lazy+poor, the stupid+lazy combination makes them terminally online.

There are legions of grannies who are content to draw peonies and views of Vermont in the fall and post them on Facebook. They're normal.

 

[Ericson]

There are legions of grannies who are content to draw peonies and views of Vermont in the fall and post them on Facebook.

Can we see?

 

[Hypercop]

The arts need to start romanticizing David Lynch's philosophy that artistic greatness is in spite of suffering and mental issues and not because of it. It's retarded how people have been convinced they need to be a tortured artist. Same applies for people who think being smart requires you to be cripplingly autistic and anti-social.

You do have to be a tortured artist to make certain kinds of art. There is no separating figures like Hemingway, Van Gogh, or Kurt Cobain from the awful lives they had, and like half of the major figures in 90's grunge killed themselves. Honestly, that's more persuasive than whatever you're saying. Great art does come from suffering, but these great artists still lived absolutely garbage lives and killed themselves, so should you really aspire to be like them? Is art really more important than life itself?

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

Because to the mentally ill art is escapism, and and they usually don't realize only dwelling in escapism doesn't make money. A lot of the more successful creatives don't tweet about their mental health all day. Those that complain all day might get attention, but have no self awareness so they can't impliment it to their work. Chris Chan would be rich if he wasn't... Chris Chan.

Pizzacake

Pizzacake is an odd example because her comics are so bland (and probably ripped off older SJW comics), but she knows all the ways of how to get clicks, unlike 90% of other artists. But she has no self awareness and she's just... boring.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Drawing is gay. Mental illness is gay. Gays gather in groups. Groups of gay, mentally ill artists form.

This could be an Anal Cunt song.

 

[TheRedChair]

As stated before. I REFUSED to hire people that completely rely on creating on digital content.
This is a FUCKING CRUTCH. IF you can not show me the fundamentals with a pencil and paper, you are useless to me. You can create with the digital process I am not against that.

What I am against is the loss of the fundamentals to create things and that all starts with pen/pencil and paper.

I Fucking HATE the Cal-Arts Pussy content. I have to go outside the US, go to Eastern Europe to get the content done. And that content provider is getting U.S. Wages for that content being created.

I fucking hate what creativity has become. Nothing but complete sick fucks destroying creativity for the rest of us.

 

[dcss]

I agree with OP. Look at Fallenchungus. His shitty xitter comics got a bit of traction and he went absolutely batshit fucking insane in like a year's time, confessing to a fart fetish under no pressure, making two kiwifarms accounts (@dunkbunko and @datsactuallymojo ) to sperg in his own thread, confessing to having sex with a mentally ill 15 year old he met in a psych ward and much more. artists get fucking crazy man, even the shitty ones

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

Prior to the 1800s and Romanticism we had basically zero 'tortured artists'. It was not a profession for the ill of mind or soul. You were either well-to-do, an artisan, or some monk carving icons. If you were a painter or an architect you were transmitting something divine and beautiful into a worldly, visible form - like an emissary. True artists of any medium deliver something that captures what you, a non-artist, didn't think could be ever captured; it's not when they just have technical skill to write a song or draw a picture. Prior to this, even when artists were ill/mad, their works would still be otherworldly, like

Spoiler: The Devil's Trill

, not weird and shitty like some po-mo banana on a wall.

I think the reason we have mentally ill artists now is primarily the 1000-fold increase in autism. We have a lot of people who cannot interact with society or the world in a normal fashion. They instead master a medium (a media) they can control and understand, and mediate their interactions through that instead. Which is why so many of them seem to live or die on compliments and criticism. Their art is both a presentation to - and a degree of separation from - humanity. They don't understand you, but they can present the art they made and see how you react to it. Since it's a substitute for normal socialization, they are very dogged about it. For example, Jersh is of this latter type. His artistic medium is this website. He can control the format, and the font, and the shape of the socializing network, what content is permitted, how intimately he's exposed, studying how people react to the weirdos and how weird the reactors themselves are, etc.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

For example, Jersh is of this latter type. His artistic medium is this website. He can control the format, and the font, and the shape of the socializing network, what content is permitted, how intimately he's exposed, studying how people react to the weirdos and how weird the reactors themselves are, etc.

...Are we a part of his art

 

[Legalize Asbestos]

...Are we a part of his art

lmao, no. We're who the art is for. Rest easy.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Couple of reasons:
* Most people prefer to consume media. Creating media, especially at an expert level, inadvertently creates a superiority complex.
* Working as an artist as a career path requires you to be delusional, actually keeping it up post highschool means you are either living off government benefits, or have parents act as enablers. Both massive red flags.
* Learning art at an expert level requires you to perform the same actions thousands of hours until perfection (or you deluding yourself it's good), meaning most normal people will give up
* A lot of artists are coomers who use their abilities to satisfy their sick urges.
* Mental illness is spreadable and teens who went into artists websites and universities can easily be infected/groomed.

 

[VisaMallgoth]

You must first understand how unhinged the old masters were.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

You must first understand how unhinged the old masters were.

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All artists are lolcows in the making

 

[pork and beans]

Lots of people draw, but drawing is something you either do on your alone time or do with peers, colleagues, friends, or family members who also enjoy drawing and art.

To advertise your hobby on social media, fill it with tags to maximize traction and try to reach online connections through shared consoomer interests like fandom… of course the type of person who does that is an online lonely weirdo.


Also a lot of people who study art nowadays focus on performance, not even painting or sculpture, because it gets better reception (unlike paint galleries, who are harder to get in) and gives you the most attention.

 

[Señora Airi]

the art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable

The problem with this is that the people who use this phrase only either do the "metaphor for depression" art or lolicon art.

 

[Pomniman]

Every artform is the same artform and it's all a kind of abyss. You can only truly improve by drowning yourself in it so the destination and the means of reaching it eventually become confused and insanity almost always comes without the other side (which is mastery of one kind or another) ever even being in sight.

 

[Basement Dwelling Dork]

I hate drawing but if I don't draw it I would have to pay others to do it and I don't want to do that

Stealing this quote since this exactly how I fucking feel about any creative hobby.

 

[snowdunes]

Normal people just consume art, odd people create it. For normal people, odd/dissident people are always seen as weird because they don't conform as easily, or as OP calls them; "mentally ill"

 

[William Murderface]

Yeah, to trully be in STEM you gotta have at least somewhat higher than average IQ. But in the last decade or so many mids or even lows have flooded the sectors like IT and other related stuff.
It's no longer a playing field of semi-rogue semi-geniuses, it's office work for office drones.

It certainly didn't help that the scientists and engineers stopped being in charge of the government agencies and private companies that were devoted to doing things like putting men on the moon or developing the computer in favor of professional bureaucrats and MBAs looking for a chair in the C-Suite.