Why is communism so appealing to so many people? - Despite, you know, its proven to be a failed system.

Why is communism so appealing to them?

  • They are retarded (the clinically insane type)

    Votes: 5 3.5%
  • They are retarded (the stupid type)

    Votes: 25 17.4%
  • They delude themselves that they will be the ones at the top (somehow)

    Votes: 28 19.4%
  • They want to watch the world burn

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • They want to rule the world

    Votes: 3 2.1%
  • They hate capitalism so much that even a failed system looks appealing in comparison

    Votes: 13 9.0%
  • To get back at their parents

    Votes: 6 4.2%
  • All of the above?

    Votes: 59 41.0%
  • They legit made research and concluded that real communism hasnt been tried, for realz

    Votes: 5 3.5%

  • Total voters
    144
Borderline personality disorder: When you have this you cannot for the life of you put things into perspective in the severity of which they occur. This leads to an all or nothing mindset which could not be any further from how a government would be ideally handling things. You see that the government is neither hard left or hard right but deals with things in a attempt to be neutral. This is where the idea of a total communist utopia fits in. This all or nothing perfect idea of a world that will happen, will fester quickly because it helps them grasp with the fact that reality will never cater to their individual needs or wants and they think this government type will be able to do that as well as the extreme end of the spectrum that this "utopia" exists on. The idea you think a vocal minority ( Troons ) will even be able to get a foothold in an ideology designed to service everyone is a fallacy on its own right.

Poverty: When people see a market downturn or don't strike rich on doing menial shit like McDonald's or only fans they turn to this gov type because they want everyone to have a similar income situation. This just doesn't work well in practice as you just spread poverty more than you spread wealth. The mindset comes back during hard economic times. ( and is fleeting when things are going good because people simply cannot pick a lane ). Not understanding the basic concept of if you get a house by the government thats where all the resources go and you get nothing else. Only so many resources to go around to the people and generally it's just enough to keep them happy and docile than it is to enjoy much of anything else.

Small world view: You simply cannot put everyone in a box. When you do everyone just lashes out or becomes more extreme. You cannot compare someone in downtown L.A or Chicago to live the same lifestyle or have the same needs as Cletus in the mountains of Pennsylvania. When you put such a generic approach to all of these different walks of life they just end up wanting to earn/find more to do anything above exist. The average troon goes about life not having experienced any other lifestyle other than Doritos and discord so they can't grasp why someone who is competent at something like plumbing or welding can get more out of capitalism and the troon isn't. They then assume that a business owner doesn't have to neglect everything about his personal life and is only participating in exploitation and they are not. It is in the laws of physics that there has to be a difference between two things to be able to make a profit or even have something happen. This is how a boss is above you and why you don't get paid a large amount for doing a dumb shit job. They need to have a profit margin. While exploitation does happen it isn't as widespread as a troon or communist may think it is.

Exploitation: This mindset seems to be prevalent with alot of the communists that are unable to understand that exploitation is a concept not a commodity. As I mentioned a minute ago the way the universe works is two things have to have a difference between them to be able to make anything happen. A battery cannot be flat, and you cannot get paid a large salary if you want capitalism to work. Just like you cant have something weigh more than you can move. Even if you don't get exploited for cash outright, there is another way somewhere somehow to do it and it will never truly go away. You had to bribe officers in the U.S.S.R to get a car made. You couldn't get one quickly otherwise you would have to wait 10 years. Now what's the difference between exploiting a worker with a poor wage and exploiting some factory worker in some eastern European town by being the only person to be able to provide this luxury? Nothing. Exploitation does not go away it changes shape.

Out of touch: Growing up in several different lifestyles can lead to this. A lot of times you see trust fund babies ( I have nothing against them btw. ) or people who moved around alot like military brats have this issue. They never grow up anywhere in particular. A concept like this can be proven very easily when they have no regional dialect or slang in their vernacular or any real idea of how a region's way of life works. You see someone in Illinois use the word Frunchroom and you know that they lived there long enough that the mannerisms sank in and thats who they are. Never happens with someone who moves too much or lives outside of normal society either physically or mentally ( Trust fund babies and Troons respectively ).

Emotional neglect: When you dont have parents or friends ( this overlaps with out of touch a bit. ) you tend to find a place that you feel as a welcome individual or apart of a community. Communists all like to call each other comrades because not only is it edgy to them but they also need to feel like they are apart of something. You dont grow up in a singular place for a while and suddenly it's appealing to be apart of an ideology that makes everywhere your home because you never had this in the first place. This fills a gap in your life you didn't know you had or can you even understand because no one was there to slap it into you or you even have it filled with growing up in a place as milk toast as Wyoming.

Lowest common denominator: These are the REAL I mean REAL fucking losers in life. These people can't win an argument with themselves so they need to bring down everyone around them. While socialism in small parts can help with quality of life. When they want full levels of socialism they are only doing this because they themselves need everyone else to come down to their level because they cannot elevate themselves. Anything close to self improvement or gaining a skill for whatever reason they have ( it's excuses they turn into in the end ) stops them from doing even 1% of a beneficial activity. Playing this out in their mind goes like this. If everyone is the same, I am not as much of a loser anymore. Even though you are the exact person who put yourself in this place. You see this alot with Discord jannies or even Redditors because they have the spare time to even do this. Who in their right mind would spend as much time as they do moderating a website for free when a kid or a wife or even a mildly engaged hobby would sap all of this time or even allow the loser to be interested in doing moderating.

Who this would apply to: My favorite personal example is a gent I met in the mountain's of Virginia. Grew up in a wood shack with no electricity, running water, or even a birth certificate for a large portion of his childhood. This is who this appeals to. When you have less than zero resources afforded to you for any reason you go for one that provides something. Communism will work in this case for him as he has nothing so starting from zero will benefit him regardless of how it reaches him. Look at when the U.S.S.R adopted it and how they had the greatest advancement in history for a society. Russians had the biggest jump because before then running water and electricity was just unheard of outside of a Tsar's house. Coming from borderline cavemen levels of infrastructure you give the country anything and it moves at the speed of light until you hit anything more advanced than a C.B radio and suddenly the progress is stifled ( this was the case in the U.S.S.R up until the 70's. ) The gent admits that it had some issues to work out and that it may have a low ceiling but for someone in his position this would work great. He is not the majority but the majority of people like him would agree with him.

People themselves: They do not want to compare or even care much about others. It is a shitty fact of life but it is a constant nonetheless. You see homeless people skipped over when they are suffering and you think suddenly just because some out of touch individual has an idea it's going to fix it? Being as naïve as someone can be thinking communism would help the nature of people that don't care about others than themselves just simply doesn't apply to how this situation would play out in practice. Why would you give up the ability to reach for the stars for even me? I am some fat fuck on kiwi farms right now. The fuck does it matter if you have more resources than me anyway? It doesn't but the Troon/Commie can't accept that someone has more than them.

Lack of parenting: Not having a parent teach you that sometimes you get shit on in life and you just end up with your dick in your hand and there is no other explanation other than fuck you eat shit it leads to this. A lot of times in life no matter what way I looked at a situation I saw that sometimes you just fucking lose and there's the door, thank you come again. Parents should teach their kids this but alot of times it just doesn't happen for whatever reason and then is reinforced by everyone getting a trophy. Raising some eternal viking badass kid is not necessary. The problem lies in you can't have a kid that has no understanding of what losing is or why it's not really all that bad of a situation and not have them turn to a government type that is the same system that giving participation trophies out is but with an "Economy" in it.

Alot of text I know but these are the reasons I see that people want communism even though they are never the type to enforce it or even make it happen.
 
Things are legitimately bad for a lot of people and they don't feel like existing systems work for them (because the don't). They latch on to any alternative purposed that is touted as being better for them and won't let go. Communism is shit, but a lot of people just want to cope. Some find that at the bottom of a bottle, some find that he dream of revolution.

Alternatively? If you're a total loser who hates working it's nice to think you'll just be handed everything you need. This type of person will refuse to acknowledge anti-parasite laws that almost always exist in so-called communist societies.
So instead of that money being in her hands, its in the hands of the federal government.

Thats...better?
In a good world she’d be some whore on the corner, not a huge part of modern pop culture that people look up to.
 
Those people praise Communism, because of how they don't hesitate to eliminate enemies of the state, and some of those people that simp for Communism also have fetishes of see mass extermination of "undesirables", i.e. Republicans. They also seem to praise Communism for "Getting Things Done" (even if it's the wrong things), due to being a one-party state, and not being held back due to Government redtape with power being divided into "unnecessary" parts (in their eyes), i.e. a Senate/House of Representatives.
 
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People pushing Communism think that once they get it to work, all of their problems will be solved. It also appeals to their desire to have a giant nanny taking care of them with god-like powers, but without the disapproval that an actual God might direct towards them.
 
Working a shit job tends to make people more sympathetic to communism because they think it might solve that problem, except you're just going to end up doing a shitty job under even worse circumstances.

Whatever system we have now is absolutely not a free market. It's some kind of horrifying corporate-socialism, where the ultra-rich and megacorporations use the government to suck up the money from the poor masses.
Gotta love that "communism never works and leads to disaster/ackshually, we don't have capitalism ourselves so you can't critique it" doublethink.
 
Because capitalist society is alienating. Most people can sense this isn't the way humans are meant to live. Globohomo is often called "communist" or "leftist" by politically illiterate Amerilards, but it is a product of capitalism. Widespread poverty and inequality... It is extremely easy to see the appeal of communism and your question is disingenuous and biased. Whether or not you agree that communism is the answer to these things is another matter, but don't tell me you cannot see the appeal.
Alienation is the transformation of people’s own labour into a power which rules them as if by a kind of natural or supra-human law. The origin of alienation is commodity fetishism – the belief that inanimate things (commodities) have human powers (i.e., value) able to govern the activity of human beings.

Alienation is an idea developed by the young Marx in the 1844 Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts and later developed in his critique of political economy in Capital.

Marx developed the idea out of his study of Hegel. Hegel believed that history was the manifestation of the movement of Spirit acting “behind the backs” of actors in history; Marx however held that Hegel’s “Spirit” was nothing more nor less than human activity itself.
 
Because capitalist society is alienating. Most people can sense this isn't the way humans are meant to live. Globohomo is often called "communist" or "leftist" by politically illiterate Amerilards, but it is a product of capitalism. Widespread poverty and inequality... It is extremely easy to see the appeal of communism and your question is disingenuous and biased. Whether or not you agree that communism is the answer to these things is another matter, but don't tell me you cannot see the appeal.

Yes, humans are meant to be slaves to a nomenklatura with no power over their own destiny, everything in their lives has to be controlled by a party and the highest achievement available is having a factory job with a commie block apartment and maybe even a car. The true spirit of humanity!
 
I've always tended to see communism as an middle-class/upper-class sort of ideology. Based on its premises and internal view of itself, one would expect it to appeal to the people working at the bottom stocking shelves at walmart or working warehouse jobs at Amazon. But those people are always the exception than the rule. It always seems to have the most appeal to wealthier people who want to save the world or middle-class people looking for upward social mobility rather than the actual working classes.
The whole lack of proletarian interest in the movement is why for example Lenin invented his concept of "revolutionary vanguardism". It was somewhat an admission that the communist movement was not working class and didn't follow the predictions of Marx at all. That rather than a revolutionary movement from below, it would be a movement of middle-class intellectuals leading from above awaiting a moment (that would never come) where the proletarians would suddenly rise to leadership of the movement.
While I do think it's correct, I like the argument of 1984 where all this ideology bullshit doesn't really matter to the lower caste, they are fucked either way. And even if they assumed the ideology was in their favour, they are too busy with living day to day to do something.

Edit: Also I want to add that Communism seems very easy to people who grew in a sheltered location, and thus assume everyone is like them so coexistence should be ideally easy.
 
Communism has never been supported or embraced in any western country. What people are bitching about is never being able to have or enjoy the boomer standard of life. The boomers had generous employment benefits, cheap rent, cheap tuition and could buy a house after about two years in the work force. Many didn't even need more than a high school diploma to achieve those things. They were just born at the right time and benefited from the post war consensus.

But it's all gone to shit. Millennials got none of that. Gen z gets even smaller scraps.

What people are angry about is how the economic system that has been adopted since the late 1970's has degraded the quality of life for the general public. Sure you have a Musk here and a Bezos there but far more people are not doing well economically.
 
Because communism, like any other equality based ideology, is tailored to appeal to perpetually butthurt, resentful and low IQ dipshits that have never achieved anything of value and will never achieve anything of value. Aka normalfags.

In other words:
Kim Kardashian: (Has a net worth of 1.2 billion USD)
Average Normie McNormalfag: "But where are MY 1.2 billion USD?! EAT THE RICH!" (autistic screeching)
 
The reason why people continue to support the left is that they're better at making their ideas more palatable to society
Like trooning kids out, burning down cities cause a nigger ODs on Fentanyl and hating me because I'm a White Heterosexual Male. Yeah I'm with the right wing guys to make sure people like that die. All politics is fake and gay anyways, it's theater for rich kids; I care only about ideals and my people, I have no loyalty to those who would seek to cause harm to them. Friend or Foe, which will you be?
 
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Communism might have been mostly a failure, but it did get some things right. Maybe not right, but it understood a problem and tried to fix it.

Capitalism is nothing new. It might be more refined, but it's the same old rich rule shit that's been on the cards since this show began. With the slow death of Religion in the west well underway, Communism at least attempted to find something new for people to believe in. Capitalism just accepts mans innate greed and works a system to best utilise it. It's sensible and far more likely to work in the short term because it apes what already works.

So I think outside just saying you are a commie because it's cool with your young peer group, people are likely drawn to the idealistic nature of it. It speaks of a much better tomorrow with real change, rather than the same old lies we are used too. Maybe it's just a new set of lies, but at least It's different from before, if nothing else. But I do think casting it out without inspection is folly. They might not have been able to make it work, but we can learn from what did work just as much as from what did not.
 
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Because capitalism is gay but the dukes and the barons aren't calling forth the knights to mount any sort of meaningful alternative at the moment.
 
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The reason why communism is appealing to so many young people is because they were raised on shitty media in their childhoods.

It’s a fact that being raised on shitty media = being a collectivist because of the inferiority complex that it can developed.

Barney debuted in 1992(on PBS), Caillou debuted in 1997 and Dora debuted in 2000. Now, the demographics that love socialism/communism the most in the west are those born between 1987-2001. A generation that had 1 crappy show but had other amazing shows to watch can have a chance to avoid being a collectivist(and being a unironic commie), but if all you watched as a child was those crappy shows I mentioned, of course you are going to be collectivist no matter what.

The reason why younger millennial and older Gen Z are ethier socialist, full blown commie, polchud Fascists or even a full on Alt-Righter is because of the 3 shows I named, that they were brainwashed into being collectivist scumbag who hates the idea of “private property”, “ownership of things”, “freedom of speech”, “the right to self-defense”, but loves the concept of “feelings”, “neurodivergent”, “queer”, “intellectual property”, “racial consciousness”, “race purity” and other nonsense things and they believe that their ideas are 100% superior and that anything else is fake or some insult that is a “-ist”, a “-ism” or some offensive slur.

The 3 shows promote a idealistic world where they don’t have to take responsibility.

On why they shill for communism despite it being a failure is the inferiority complex that is developed because of their shitty upbringings and the shitty media they watched. In most normal school settings, their older schoolmates and even their own classmates mock them and bully the shit out of them for the cartoons they were raised on. Because of this, the person develops a inferiority complex which locks them out from whatever mainstream culture is there in the school and is pushed to the fringe. In the fringe, they can accept many radical ideologies like Nazism, Fascism, socialism and communism, whom are are a contrast to the free market society that they live in. The fact is, because the inferior complex people spent more time studying because they can get bullied in extracurricular activities, they end up doing well in school and go to higher learning. Hence, why so many le cringe commies at academia.

In summary, media will affect how people will go in life. Millennial and Zoomers, especially younger millennial and older zoomers, had been raised on shitty tv shows such as Barney, Dora, and Calliou, which has negatively impacted their social standing in school. This negative social standing consequently develops a inferiority complex for these victims of bullying.

When pushed on the fringe, the victims of bullying fall to radical ideologies such as communism and because of less time in extracurricular activities, have more time to practice and study. Which means that they do very well and are overrepresented in universities. Which means they have a higher class economically but not socially. And finally, it means that they can become a politician, a ceo or creator of a tv show and can push their commie agenda which is a result of a purple dinosuar, a bald spoiled Canadian brat and a Mexican explorer stealing opportunities for making friends at childhood from that person and forcing them down a dark path of neo-marxism.
 
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been some of the most bigotted, misanthropical, fascist sociopaths
I’m gonna stop you right there. Fascism is a political ideology, it’s the polar opposite of communism on a cultural basis.

Communism itself is a terrible concept and idea. If I recall, Lenin himself tried to legalize faggotry during his reign but Stalin reversed this to increase birthrates during his reign

Cultural marxist is the latest mutation of marxism we face, not Fascism. The Cultural Marxists have turned the word “fascist” into a buzzword with no meaning
 
It is only appealing to young, stupid people. College idiot kids who learn about it at college. You know, the fake city we built for them to pretend to be grown ups.

It does not appeal to anyone who lived or lives under it.
 
It's what the extremists of both sides want, the left is just better at it then the right is. The "burn it down" crowd had their limelight during 2020 and have been put back on a leash no matter how much they scream. The reason why people continue to support the left is that they're better at making their ideas more palatable to society at large despite multiple failed attempts at making some of their ideas work, whereas the right-wing has become more extreme and socially toxic since 2020 and have no real interest in actually gaining power. "I want to help people and make their lives better, and here's how I'll do that" versus "Fuck niggers, fuck trannies, fuck jannies and fuck normies".
Nope. The reason the left still has broad support is because it appeals to the lowest common denominator of the stupid and the worthless.

As the left gets browner and stupider as a natural consequence, the right will naturally start to make gains among the few people left with more than a single digit IQ.
 
Humans at their base go for low-risk, guaranteed reward. Communism is a control economy that seems to be about providing the basic needs. Everyone works towards goal so everyone gets an equal share of the result sounds good on paper, but then you get into the nitty gritty of killing the disabled who cannot work because it undermines the core tenet.

It's a very simple idea that does not do well once the power dynamic is taken away from the collective. Modern communism/ socialism is basically a mix of a totalitarian welfare state and command economy where by magic someone does the labor (because most communists can't really fathom how much work goes into turning the gears of civilization).
It's encouraged by the fact that a lot of executives don't really do anything from the looks of anyone. They seem to be the children of very smart, very charismatic, or very influential people. The Stock Market is a rigged game by most after the Game Stop bullshit where Private Equity firms were gonna get raped when the little guy caught on to their dumping tactic.

It's an impulsive solution to a problem caused by a lot of regulatory bullshit that only favors the guys at the Top. However, most people see "Amazon supports Green Energy Bill" and don't see that it skull fucks small businesses and empowers giants.
Best solution is unironically outlawing homosexuality so you can kill the gay sons of Wall Street bankers and take their wealth.
 
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