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Yes.
Otherwise, marry a Kiwi, kill their parents to get their house, have babies, and stop being such a drama queen.
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Why is Dooming so Popular on Kiwifarms? - The meta discussion
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Otherwise, marry a Kiwi, kill their parents to get their house, have babies, and stop being such a drama queen.
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Landing a redneck/church girl to pop out kids is easy.
Land is cheap in most of the USA.
Future doesn't require land, just a career and a community or network, depending on how you look at it.
Get a career and a family, same as everyone else, simple as.
Ser Prize
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Not in Canada.
Again, most assuredly not in Canada. Besides, even in America most land is being bought up by big corpo types. Look at all the farmland Bill Gates owns.
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You do realize the USA is big and there's land, just not immediately near a big city, right?
OTOH, why go down this rabbit hole where everything I bring up has a "yeah but" from you? If you want to make it happen, make it happen.
OTOH, why go down this rabbit hole where everything I bring up has a "yeah but" from you? If you want to make it happen, make it happen.
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Dooming is only worth it when you are able to laugh at it. What many people fail to consider is that you don't have to be sad that things are miserable and anti-freedom. All you need is to laugh at the crazy to prevent yourself from going crazy.
Yes, while I tend to type things in the Deep Thoughts section about the importance of freedom, they're merely guidelines for myself that I don't order people to blindly follow. And I acknowledge my own limitations in both age and experience. Furthermore, I rarely read the news because it's all garbage designed to make you miserable, the fucking BBC of all companies had shows like Charlie Brooker's Newswipe which described this for-profit marketing machine in full detail. So I don't read or watch current affairs about the news unless something darkly comical happens.
Hell, most of the time, when I type anything, is to either piss people off and/or make them feel like shit. Because it's FUN, not because I feel like shit. It sure as shit beats throwing yourself into a train or buying a gun to blast your brains out. Because like trying to start a revolution or even convincing yourself that failure precedes success, that kind of deluded behaviour is a waste of time and energy.
It's also why I type things on this forum that are basically obvious summaries, it's not only done to make others feel like shit (because, again, it's fun, Schadenfreude is FUN), it's also to at least give people an opportunity to think for themselves. Boo Fucking Hoo if the world's going to shit, just live for your own sake. If you can't do that or if you can't help yourself, don't bother helping others.
Yes, most people who ignore those who complain are the arbiters of their hubris and downfall, but at the end of the day, if WE don't get back up, other people will and what they do after that isn't our concern when we fall.
It's also correct that the current situation of Internet Freedom globally, even in North America is in the shits and global infrastructure is in the shits. But you know what I do? Once I've described the misery, I take the time off to do something I like, such as exercising, drawing, playing games, and talking to people, the main crux to take here is that I don't constantly think about every fucking shitty thing that's happening, even if there's no light at the end of the tunnel(there never is, and anyone who's telling you otherwise is a liar, liars who will take advantage of any person's desire to be positive at a moment's notice, but again, story for another day), in fact, if I see a thread that I know will make me more miserable and angry than I can reasonably control myself, I just don't read it.
This is actually something I recommend to anyone who sees a thread that they'll know will be pissed off by it: DON'T FUCKING READ IT, DUMBFUCKS! It's that easy! By having fun here, you're contributing to the decline of potential lolcows spawned from this forum. We already have enough people with page counts in their megathreads in the hundreds (and even in the multi-thousands) range and if you want to enjoy life normally, don't give in to your confirmation biases and become a lame wannabe incel/femcel/doomposter/straw-nihilist. The Internet is not an asylum, contrary to popular belief and the associated increase of insane trends and activities spawning from the Internet.
I joined the forum because hypocrisy interests me, and people interest me, especially eccentric people. This was after months of reading threads and arguments that entertained me because most of them had a ton of good humour to them, even when what was being discussed was very grim and tragic (the Shmorky thread, in particular, was especially dark, but Dave Kelly's Michael Jackson-sounding goof-fuck voice kept me laughing). Bitching like the very soyboys you mock is pathetically hypocritical and A-Loggy. I found that out when I nearly fell into that miserable trap during the whole S230 Repeal bullshit, which fortunately didn't happen.
In fact, after that debacle, it's only gotten worse because most of the long-term users moved on and now you have edgetard wannabes in their place. Wannabes who think that being a miserable fuck and treating the entire Internet as a hugbox will solve their butthurt sad sads (Spoiler: It fucking doesn't). It's not helped by the occasional instance when Josh makes a doom-centric post here on this forum or laments about something on one of his streams. So I just don't allow that shit to get to me, I'm no longer a teenager when I began this account in 2016, and the adult thing to do is not wallow in shit, but swim with the current and climb out of the shoreline.
Another thing to prevent yourself from going full straw-nihilist is by taking the steps to improve yourself after being honest with yourself and not giving in to hedonistic biases that will make you perpetually and comfortably miserable.
That same hedonism and comfortable misery led to Richard Kyanka killing himself out of cowardice. And that same level of doomer-fueled misery and the self-fulfilling belief that you are alone because people don't support you is what led to Alec Holowka killing himself. Don't end up like them. Because that's a massive waste of time.
Getting a job that you like also helps, same with doing a hobby that keeps your mind stimulated for more challenges.
And as Autistic as it sounds, TL;DR: Smile and enjoy things. Like this cute, little bundle of joy.
Yes, while I tend to type things in the Deep Thoughts section about the importance of freedom, they're merely guidelines for myself that I don't order people to blindly follow. And I acknowledge my own limitations in both age and experience. Furthermore, I rarely read the news because it's all garbage designed to make you miserable, the fucking BBC of all companies had shows like Charlie Brooker's Newswipe which described this for-profit marketing machine in full detail. So I don't read or watch current affairs about the news unless something darkly comical happens.
Hell, most of the time, when I type anything, is to either piss people off and/or make them feel like shit. Because it's FUN, not because I feel like shit. It sure as shit beats throwing yourself into a train or buying a gun to blast your brains out. Because like trying to start a revolution or even convincing yourself that failure precedes success, that kind of deluded behaviour is a waste of time and energy.
It's also why I type things on this forum that are basically obvious summaries, it's not only done to make others feel like shit (because, again, it's fun, Schadenfreude is FUN), it's also to at least give people an opportunity to think for themselves. Boo Fucking Hoo if the world's going to shit, just live for your own sake. If you can't do that or if you can't help yourself, don't bother helping others.
Yes, most people who ignore those who complain are the arbiters of their hubris and downfall, but at the end of the day, if WE don't get back up, other people will and what they do after that isn't our concern when we fall.
It's also correct that the current situation of Internet Freedom globally, even in North America is in the shits and global infrastructure is in the shits. But you know what I do? Once I've described the misery, I take the time off to do something I like, such as exercising, drawing, playing games, and talking to people, the main crux to take here is that I don't constantly think about every fucking shitty thing that's happening, even if there's no light at the end of the tunnel(there never is, and anyone who's telling you otherwise is a liar, liars who will take advantage of any person's desire to be positive at a moment's notice, but again, story for another day), in fact, if I see a thread that I know will make me more miserable and angry than I can reasonably control myself, I just don't read it.
This is actually something I recommend to anyone who sees a thread that they'll know will be pissed off by it: DON'T FUCKING READ IT, DUMBFUCKS! It's that easy! By having fun here, you're contributing to the decline of potential lolcows spawned from this forum. We already have enough people with page counts in their megathreads in the hundreds (and even in the multi-thousands) range and if you want to enjoy life normally, don't give in to your confirmation biases and become a lame wannabe incel/femcel/doomposter/straw-nihilist. The Internet is not an asylum, contrary to popular belief and the associated increase of insane trends and activities spawning from the Internet.
I joined the forum because hypocrisy interests me, and people interest me, especially eccentric people. This was after months of reading threads and arguments that entertained me because most of them had a ton of good humour to them, even when what was being discussed was very grim and tragic (the Shmorky thread, in particular, was especially dark, but Dave Kelly's Michael Jackson-sounding goof-fuck voice kept me laughing). Bitching like the very soyboys you mock is pathetically hypocritical and A-Loggy. I found that out when I nearly fell into that miserable trap during the whole S230 Repeal bullshit, which fortunately didn't happen.
In fact, after that debacle, it's only gotten worse because most of the long-term users moved on and now you have edgetard wannabes in their place. Wannabes who think that being a miserable fuck and treating the entire Internet as a hugbox will solve their butthurt sad sads (Spoiler: It fucking doesn't). It's not helped by the occasional instance when Josh makes a doom-centric post here on this forum or laments about something on one of his streams. So I just don't allow that shit to get to me, I'm no longer a teenager when I began this account in 2016, and the adult thing to do is not wallow in shit, but swim with the current and climb out of the shoreline.
Another thing to prevent yourself from going full straw-nihilist is by taking the steps to improve yourself after being honest with yourself and not giving in to hedonistic biases that will make you perpetually and comfortably miserable.
That same hedonism and comfortable misery led to Richard Kyanka killing himself out of cowardice. And that same level of doomer-fueled misery and the self-fulfilling belief that you are alone because people don't support you is what led to Alec Holowka killing himself. Don't end up like them. Because that's a massive waste of time.
Getting a job that you like also helps, same with doing a hobby that keeps your mind stimulated for more challenges.
And as Autistic as it sounds, TL;DR: Smile and enjoy things. Like this cute, little bundle of joy.
Ser Prize
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I don't see your logic. I say I'm Canadian and that Canadian land isn't affordable so you tell me that American land is cheap. The fuck does that do to help my problem?
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"even in America most land is being bought up by big corpo types"
SO ANYWAY, fucking try, or don't. People have had good lives even in the past, which was often much worse. Nothing's fair, if you lurked here more than two seconds you'd learn that, but you'd also learn that persistency and gumption goes a long way. If you don't have some, get some.
SO ANYWAY, fucking try, or don't. People have had good lives even in the past, which was often much worse. Nothing's fair, if you lurked here more than two seconds you'd learn that, but you'd also learn that persistency and gumption goes a long way. If you don't have some, get some.
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You won't be the first or last Canadian to become American (or just stay illegally, perpetually).
Backinpogform
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I find most doomers anywhere have overwhelmingly large amounts of self-pity.
supermonkeylove
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Realists are better, but they have the same views as logical doomers.
AnyballLecter
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Why is dooming so popular on Kiwifarms?
Well, because we are doomed in various ways, or to walk that back significantly, every day there is news about various trends which, if real and allowed to progress, would be very bad.
However in terms of the meta aspects, you need to bear the following in mind in any forum:
- Majority of readers don't even have an account.
- Majority of registered users rarely post and don't comment in most threads they read. Their silence is NOT agreement.
- A very small minority do most of the talking.
Why are they talking when others are not? You are selecting for people have strong opinions and a powerful drive to spread them. Narcissism is evident in the worst of them - e.g. Pat Tomlinson, Bardfinn, Fuentes, the extremist 'glowies' on this site.
The appeal and social incentives of saying something interesting can have a perverse effect. A proportionate cautious comment would probably repeat what has been said often, and most people already know it. So "Maybe this could cause a problem" ⇨ "This is very bad" ⇨ "The CIA and International Association of Florists are doing this to replace us with petunias."
People make the most ominous predictions to stand out from the crowd. This also contributes to conspiracy theories. Midwits set themselves apart because they "know what's really going on", and are not believing the conventional narratives like the "sheeple" do. It allows them to feel smart when no other measure ever did - academic results, creative success, prosperity.
Why don't we see wildly optimistic extreme opinions as often as wildy pessimistic ones? Danger is a higher priority to our brains than opportunity. TV news understood this a long time ago, hence "if it bleeds, it leads."
Well, because we are doomed in various ways, or to walk that back significantly, every day there is news about various trends which, if real and allowed to progress, would be very bad.
However in terms of the meta aspects, you need to bear the following in mind in any forum:
- Majority of readers don't even have an account.
- Majority of registered users rarely post and don't comment in most threads they read. Their silence is NOT agreement.
- A very small minority do most of the talking.
Why are they talking when others are not? You are selecting for people have strong opinions and a powerful drive to spread them. Narcissism is evident in the worst of them - e.g. Pat Tomlinson, Bardfinn, Fuentes, the extremist 'glowies' on this site.
The appeal and social incentives of saying something interesting can have a perverse effect. A proportionate cautious comment would probably repeat what has been said often, and most people already know it. So "Maybe this could cause a problem" ⇨ "This is very bad" ⇨ "The CIA and International Association of Florists are doing this to replace us with petunias."
People make the most ominous predictions to stand out from the crowd. This also contributes to conspiracy theories. Midwits set themselves apart because they "know what's really going on", and are not believing the conventional narratives like the "sheeple" do. It allows them to feel smart when no other measure ever did - academic results, creative success, prosperity.
Why don't we see wildly optimistic extreme opinions as often as wildy pessimistic ones? Danger is a higher priority to our brains than opportunity. TV news understood this a long time ago, hence "if it bleeds, it leads."
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I think that the biggest factor is that, this is one of the very few "old Internet" sites left. Everything else has been corporatized and sanitized to the point of being unusable if you have any sense of humor at all or engage in any form of wrongthink. Anybody in their late 20s or older that once truly appreciated the Internet for what it was meant to be is likely disgusted at the 2022 corporate internet and the Zoomer-infested communities that compose it.
Users have personally seen the entire rest of the clearnet reduced to a shell of itself with close to zero ability to exercise freedom of expression or thought. This site has been deplatformed too many times to count in unprecedented manners from unprecedented parties. It's been hanging on by a thread in the past, and while its fate is looking good for now, it's uncertain. Engaging on such a website and knowing how easily things could change (lawmakers, international law, different internets as opposed to a singular Internet) easily gives one a cynical view of things to come.
That grim outlook then extends to other areas of life, knowing who holds power and influence and wields it unjustly in all avenues. Read any media article on any subject that you're especially well-versed in and you'll oftentimes find yourself amazed at how untrue many of the claims that they make are, or just how uneducated on the subject the writer is. None of that matters.
Users have personally seen the entire rest of the clearnet reduced to a shell of itself with close to zero ability to exercise freedom of expression or thought. This site has been deplatformed too many times to count in unprecedented manners from unprecedented parties. It's been hanging on by a thread in the past, and while its fate is looking good for now, it's uncertain. Engaging on such a website and knowing how easily things could change (lawmakers, international law, different internets as opposed to a singular Internet) easily gives one a cynical view of things to come.
That grim outlook then extends to other areas of life, knowing who holds power and influence and wields it unjustly in all avenues. Read any media article on any subject that you're especially well-versed in and you'll oftentimes find yourself amazed at how untrue many of the claims that they make are, or just how uneducated on the subject the writer is. None of that matters.
supermonkeylove
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This forum is also sanitized. For example, one of my posts was removed simply because it was considered a necropost.
hahahahahahhahahaha wtf you retard you think that's ever been easy?
oh ho ho omg
"nobody is serving me up LAND while I sit on my butt it's so hard to live in the 21st century"
YourFriendlyLurker 2.0
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It must be connected with an average age of KF user. I don't think there are a lot of zoomers here, most of us are probably salty 30+ and this is the age when it suddenly hits you that you can not do shit to change the word. It changes with no regards to you or what you believe in and you don't want to (or not able to) change along with that world. You are being left behind and everything that's left for you is shrinking places like KF. It brings out cynical humor and dooming which we see it its glory on KF. Sometimes it brings out agression but since we are talking about salty 30+ loosers (which I am proud to be part of) their agression is contain within their keyboards.
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I honestly found this to be a relief. Bad things going on in the world don’t necessarily need to concern or bother me anymore. I can’t do anything about it— maybe have a laugh at some of it at most.
You can change things/have an impact on your own life and things local to you to a certain extent (friends/family/community). If changing things is important to you that’s the right place to focus.
For real, these aren’t easy things to achieve or maintain but worth the effort. There is also a certain amount of risk involved for all of this.
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Having doomed on here in the past I get why people do it on here. Life sucks and the people who hate everything about you are in power in a seemingly unreachable position.
But dooming solves nothing and helps no one. It doesn't make your life better. We all need to overcome all the demoralizing forces in our lives.
We may live in horrible hard times today with everything aligned against us but we must be strong. They want us demoralized self defeating and weak. We must be optimistic and have an enduring vigilance out of both spite and the will to push ourselves out of our hell holes.
The ability to be resilient and resistant from the effects of demoralization whether it be personal or from our enemies and the world around us is one of the greatest abilities any human being can ever have.
But dooming solves nothing and helps no one. It doesn't make your life better. We all need to overcome all the demoralizing forces in our lives.
We may live in horrible hard times today with everything aligned against us but we must be strong. They want us demoralized self defeating and weak. We must be optimistic and have an enduring vigilance out of both spite and the will to push ourselves out of our hell holes.
The ability to be resilient and resistant from the effects of demoralization whether it be personal or from our enemies and the world around us is one of the greatest abilities any human being can ever have.
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I occasionally doom because it seems everything I was brought up on was a lie and KiwiFarms is the only place where I can vent over all the bullshit. I don't know what to believe anymore and it's getting harder for me to even trust family and close friends.
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It's not just a Kiwi Farms thing. The Doomer faggotry is everywhere. It's some shit that came from 4chan I believe. It's not new though. Some people just get off on weird shit. They can't jack off to big tits and big asses. They like fear porn. You know what they say about staring into the abyss. It stares back.
I think these types are just terminally online fags. They spend too much time online and think the real world is the internet. Here is a hint. It isn't.
Anyone remember that video of the 4chan fag spouting 4chan memes at people in school and getting laughed at? It was some fat kid with glasses. Looked like he was in middle school or maybe early high school. He was literally trying to use memes on people and getting bullied and hard. That's what these people are. If they ever went outside they would get bullycided.
I think these types are just terminally online fags. They spend too much time online and think the real world is the internet. Here is a hint. It isn't.
Anyone remember that video of the 4chan fag spouting 4chan memes at people in school and getting laughed at? It was some fat kid with glasses. Looked like he was in middle school or maybe early high school. He was literally trying to use memes on people and getting bullied and hard. That's what these people are. If they ever went outside they would get bullycided.