Guess we'd best start hanging farmers and slaughter house workers.
If you think hurting animals is bad and you aren't a vegan you're suffering pretty serious cognitive dissonance.
why is hurting animals bad?
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If you think hurting animals is bad and you aren't a vegan you're suffering pretty serious cognitive dissonance.
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Life is cruel. I mean wild dogs eat wildebeests alive without a second thought. However, that doesn't mean that you can't do better because you know better. I have raised my fowl from the egg and I know them all. I want none of them to suffer at the moment of their death nor beforehand. I care for all that God has put for me to care for. I don't even care about Hell, I just have the common decency to realize that there is no reason for unnecessary suffering.
Yet you still hurt them. "I make sure they have good lives until I execute them"
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We all are destined to die. How do you want to go out?
Spiny Rumples
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...choking my chicken. I see your point.
You?
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Plants don't feel pain, they can not experience fear, this is a dumb argument.
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When territorial disputes or instincts related to survival aren't in question, there really is no need to inflict harm upon something. Even wild animals abide by that, since a peaceful coexistence offers many more benefits over a destructive one that could influence the ecosystem to the point of screwing them over. Sadism is a defective trait in the eyes of survival and evolution.
Manul Otocolobus
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You should read some of the recent plant studies regarding plant signaling and anesthesia's effects on plants. You might be surprised what has been learned recently.
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So when’s the thread for OP gonna pop up in Animal Control?
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lol stfu vegan
Edit: Jokes aside, given the topic of the thread, you're either saying "I'm BETTER than you because I'm a vegan" which is retarded because humans are omnivores and it's possible to slaughter humanely, or at the very least without actual sadistic intent, stop virtue signalling - or you're saying "It's okay that I like hurting animals because factory farming" in which case hi there monkeyfucker, how are ya?
Hijacking actual discussion about animal welfare to shill your own dietary cult is why everyone fucking hates vegans.
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We're consumers, we have to eat living things to not die of starvation.
Also if you can't see the difference between sadistically torturing or killing animals, and quickly dispatching an animal for the intention of feeding people, you're a retard.
On top of that, farming crops kills thousands of animals, from baby rabbits, to field mice, to any animal that has to deal with pesticides and runoff...
An unfortunate fact of life is that our existence is based on fucking up other things' existence.
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Hey you wouldn't happen to be a Canadian Philosophy PhD student would you? Because some one very similar posted a thread on /pol/ that asked a the same question about a month ago. Because asking this question is inherently dumb and retarded it in turn makes you dumb and retard so I'll try to explain this the best I can to you.
On the surface level there is obvious physical reactions to pain in animals. Poke a human with a sharp object and they will recoil and make guttural noises. Humans will run or attack when hurt. Animals will do the same, poke a bunny with a knife it will run for the bushes, poke a pit bull and will try and tear your face off. Animals will lick wounds like humans, they will moan and vocalize that something is wrong like humans. In this sense we can establish that animals do in fact feel pain because they will react in very similar ways that humans in pain will.
Many can justify causing humans pain because many humans are not innocent. Often when we say this it means that many humans have caused pain purposely. After all, Hurt people, hurt people. Animals and children are often regarded as not understanding what pain truly is so they are deemed innocent. Causing pain to those who haven't caused other pain is looked down upon due to no previously perceived transaction. Most animal barely recognize creatures outside of their species let alone human morals, therefore they are incapable of intentionally causing pain.
Humans are the most dangerous animal on the planet. With that we command the power to knowingly and purposely intact the most intense campaign of pain. We choose not to because it both serves no purpose, and it is actually a more powerful move to spare weak.
Animal abusers enjoy tormenting the weak, the innocent and the defenseless. Their logic is might is right no matter the scale. Animals have no morality so hurting them purposely is an act of pure malice due to their inherently innocent nature.
On the surface level there is obvious physical reactions to pain in animals. Poke a human with a sharp object and they will recoil and make guttural noises. Humans will run or attack when hurt. Animals will do the same, poke a bunny with a knife it will run for the bushes, poke a pit bull and will try and tear your face off. Animals will lick wounds like humans, they will moan and vocalize that something is wrong like humans. In this sense we can establish that animals do in fact feel pain because they will react in very similar ways that humans in pain will.
Many can justify causing humans pain because many humans are not innocent. Often when we say this it means that many humans have caused pain purposely. After all, Hurt people, hurt people. Animals and children are often regarded as not understanding what pain truly is so they are deemed innocent. Causing pain to those who haven't caused other pain is looked down upon due to no previously perceived transaction. Most animal barely recognize creatures outside of their species let alone human morals, therefore they are incapable of intentionally causing pain.
Humans are the most dangerous animal on the planet. With that we command the power to knowingly and purposely intact the most intense campaign of pain. We choose not to because it both serves no purpose, and it is actually a more powerful move to spare weak.
Animal abusers enjoy tormenting the weak, the innocent and the defenseless. Their logic is might is right no matter the scale. Animals have no morality so hurting them purposely is an act of pure malice due to their inherently innocent nature.
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I think it was @AnOminous that said this over on poa.st, but basically "how people treat those that are powerless/less powerful than them indicates how they will treat you when given the opportunity."
A person that is cruel to animals that have done nothing wrong and cannot fight back is more often than not a person who will quite quickly and easily do the same to another human being if given the chance. It indicates a kind of unempathetic sadism that can be very dangerous to human life if not watched closely.
A person that is cruel to animals that have done nothing wrong and cannot fight back is more often than not a person who will quite quickly and easily do the same to another human being if given the chance. It indicates a kind of unempathetic sadism that can be very dangerous to human life if not watched closely.
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Matt Damon
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I think causing animals pointless suffering is bad.
Caring for a cow reasonably its whole life and then putting a steel bolt through its brain so it's incapacitated instantly and dead moments later is the kind of life and death a wild animal would be extraordinarily lucky to achieve.
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You are assigned to Retard Camp. To get out, you have to contrast and compare the arguments about animal rights between Jeremy Bentham and Peter Singer.
Or you get gassed.
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I don't see it. Treating the animal well for its entire life makes the meat taste nicer.
Sumptinsfuckey
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Because pain and fear release large amounts of adrenaline and other stress hormones which can make the meat taste bad.
skykiii
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Hurting animals is bad because animals are cute and cute things don't deserve pain. I've met people who even consider things like crabs and snakes adorable so don't "but what about X animal" me.
Also because we're humans and should know better.
But seriously, if I knew someone who saw cute kittens and their only thought was "I wanna hear the sound they make when I injure them" then I would soon know a dead human.
Also because we're humans and should know better.
But seriously, if I knew someone who saw cute kittens and their only thought was "I wanna hear the sound they make when I injure them" then I would soon know a dead human.
One scene I always hated in the movie The Good Son is this bit where the evil kid hands the good kid a weapon and tries to encourage the good kid to kill a dog with it. Okay, full stop: if you know someone is a psychopath and that psychopath HANDS YOU A WEAPON, the correct response--always--is to turn around and use it on them! Of course movie characters are almost contractually obligated to be retards, but I see this in real life too. Gee, I wonder why there's so many psychos in real life. It is SUCH a mystery.