why is hurting animals bad?

I grew up around a dude that would eventually start neglecting his pets after a few months. Like he had absolutely no empathy or remorse. The rest of the neighborhood kids didn't like him and he caught dozens of ass whoopings. One day he asked me why does everyone always want to beat him up, and I simply told him that it's because of the way he treats his pets. One day we caught him using his dad's pellet rifle to shoot at the squirrels in the neighborhood and we took it away from him. When his dad came home, he told him we stole the rifle and when he came looking for it, we told him, and he took his son to quite a few psychiatrists and got him medicated.

I haven't seen him in years but if if I found out he became a serial killer, it wouldn't surprise me. Dude was way fucking off in the head.
 
There are multiple reasons why animal abuse is shunned. The main one is that we humans identify with animals and feel angry when they are abused, even stuff like kosher/halal slaughter were made due to being perceived as the most efficient ways of slaughter at the time.
Besides instinctive response, animal cruelty is a barometer of a functioning society, and individuals committing it are pretty much destined to do worse things.
Another thing I learned is that raising livestock, having it in distress leads to worse tasting meat.

Finally, having to justify why animal cruelty is wrong is a sign the person you are speaking to is a psychopath or a brainless edgelord. There is an objective morality that is indisputed.
 
Hurting animals is not bad. Animals will suffer and die for my benefit. I will create a breed of chickens that grow up so fast and big that they aren't be able to walk properly, and I will keep them in batteries to cut costs so that even the poorest family could afford meat on a regular basis. I will drop chemicals into rabbits' eyes to make sure that they are safe for humans and I will infect rats with deadly pathogens to study the diseases they cause and to develop cures and preventive measures.
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Because too much stress does bad things to the quality of meat
 
Animals experience emotions (like pain and fear) and I suspect they do so much MORE strongly than humans.

You're not going to get a perfect logical argument because basic moral stances like this rely on intuition, not reasoning. But the long short of it is that the way you behave, from how you treat other to how you treat your immediate environment, affects you somehow on a deep, spiritual level (or just moral if your non-religious). Torturing animals taints you, in a way that makes it easy for people to tell. The mechanics of it aren't clear cut, and they aren't even consistent, but the results very much are. It isn't about logic, or society, or emotions, or advantage. It just makes you evil bro.

If you want a real in depth analysis just read Crime and Punishment.
I've never read actual philosophy but I have learned at least the one-sentence-pitch for several. Ethical arguments tend to bore me because they're all autistic retardation, consequentialism and deontology are both absolutely idiotic when applied consistently. Virtue ethics, based on my understanding of it as being the idea that there are virtues (personality traits) that are inherently good and the point of acts is to cultivate those virtues, strikes me as the most sensible as its the most close to normal people's actual behavior. I have a strong feeling that immoral acts introduce a sort of pollution into a person's spirit.
 
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Someone who is willing to mutilate, torture, rape, kill, and maim any animal absolutely has the potential to do it to a human. It's only a matter of WHEN, not IF, they will, because they will. Animal killing is the way psychopaths desensitize and "practice" for the real deal. Many mass shooters and serial killers have history of violence towards animals. Animals are like children in that they can't speak out or really understand what's happening to them.

Even ignoring the fact that animals feel pain and suffering, hurting an animal is the ultimate form of predation because humans are fully aware of the pain they are causing, whereas something like a Lion or Tiger doesn't really have the same understanding or comprehension of what exactly the other creature is feeling when they kill. The human knows EXACTLY what it is doing, and some of them even revel in that pain they cause, the human being is Earth's ultimate motherfucker. As cheesy as it sounds, we are practically Gods compared to them, which is why we should show them mercy.

This only applies to mammals, reptiles, birds, mostly stuff with spinal chords, though I'd say Octopus and Squids count too. Other more basic animals like Insects and the like really don't fall under this as they're too basic to feel true suffering or pain. There's nothing wrong with boiling Lobsters because they don't comprehend suffering. Boiling something like a Sheep or Dog however, I hope we all universally agree, is FUCKED.
 
This only applies to mammals, reptiles, birds, mostly stuff with spinal chords, though I'd say Octopus and Squids count too. Other more basic animals like Insects and the like really don't fall under this as they're too basic to feel true suffering or pain. There's nothing wrong with boiling Lobsters because they don't comprehend suffering. Boiling something like a Sheep or Dog however, I hope we all universally agree, is FUCKED.
Why? I get that the nervous system functions differently in different creatures but I'm not convinced that their systems being different actually changes their subjective experience. It seems arbitrary to me to set the cutoff as "has a spinal cord" instead of "has a human brain specifically." There does come a point when the creature is so different it's impossible to say anything meaningful about it (like if a maple tree can "feel" being tapped for syrup) but it seems to me like bugs certainly have a concept of "I need to get the fuck out of here."

Now I'll tell you this, nature is a complete lost cause in that if you're going for harm reduction, there's really no way to do it. People often think that if they don't eat meat that somehow absolves them of animal suffering. Build roads? Millions of dead groundhogs and deer. Plant your soyburger crop? That soy tore up the warrens of little rabbits and deprived the woodland critters of precious foraging grounds. Don't do anything? The animals will fall into a Malthusian trap and die slow agonizing deaths of starvation or being eaten by predators. Take a step outside? You'll step on a bug.

The whole world runs on suffering, and the only way you can function in it is by just compartmentalizing it mentally. This is again why I like virtue ethics, because you can make a more natural argument like "do what you need to as a person while being kind."

I have no issue with things like putting heavy regulations on treatment of ranched animals even if it means people have to eat a lot less meat.

Animals experience emotions (like pain and fear) and I suspect they do so much MORE strongly than humans.
You want to hear my argument, consider retards. You ever notice that retards seem to experience all of their emotions with extreme intensity, flitting from retard joy to retard rage in an instant? The same is basically true of children.

I think that there is a common societal belief that intelligence enables emotion, but I believe the reality is that intelligence dulls emotion and adds complexity. The more thinking, especially abstract, self-reflective thinking, an animal has, the more nuanced emotions it will be able to experience. Something like a bug probably has a concept of pleasure poop to eat) and fear (fly swatter), but no concept of something like jealousy. A dog definitely has jealousy, but probably has no concept of something like pathos or agape.

You introduce more intelligence, the creature has a wider range of specific emotions to experience, yet it can also rationalize its emotions and so take the power out of them. Add to that, too, that more intelligence means a longer time horizon, the emotion has less impact because its understood the state doesn't last forever. Dumber creatures, like small children and household pets? Short time horizon. You can probably remember as a child that everything was way more intense (your tantrums, your joy, your excitement, your fear). I see tards showing the same behavior, I see dogs and housecats show the same behavior (dog in a state of absolute joy, cat throwing a tantrum in a cage). I have no reason to think it doesn't become even more true, as you shrink to something like a fly (poop, fly swatter) flitting between ecstasy and agony, in a moment, on a scale we couldn't comprehend.
 
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A dog definitely has jealousy, but probably has no concept of something like pathos or agape.
Animals as complex as elephants probably do have such a concept. At the very least, they engage in mourning behavior, and even have been known to take revenge, i.e. attacking a village where someone killed one of their group. They also engage in altruistic behavior with no benefit to themselves, like rescuing smaller animals from danger.

I've also seen the smarter breeds of dogs do things like this, treating an animal of another species as a friend and part of their group and protecting them.
 
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