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I think people are starting to realize that the future is not going to be very pleasant and are beginning to take that seriously.
Why is the internet so serious now?
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People no longer being able to separate the internet from their offline life.
“Cyberbullying isn’t real, just turn off the computer” used to be the predominant mindset, because the internet was seen as a separate place that you went, and that you were free to leave at any time. Someone’s being mean to you on the internet? Turn off the computer and go outside.
Now the internet is most people’s primary socialization outlet, so they treat negative internet attention like somebody went to their house and took a shit on their doorstep.
“Cyberbullying isn’t real, just turn off the computer” used to be the predominant mindset, because the internet was seen as a separate place that you went, and that you were free to leave at any time. Someone’s being mean to you on the internet? Turn off the computer and go outside.
Now the internet is most people’s primary socialization outlet, so they treat negative internet attention like somebody went to their house and took a shit on their doorstep.
starborn427614
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To be fair doxxing is a real thing so sometimes it goes way beyond a digital interface. It's a lot more serious when someone literally turns up at your home.
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It's being used as a tool of mind control and has been for years now.
Once upon a time it was pretty much purely a place of free flowing information, then the elites realized the potential it had for mind control and with the first big test being Kony 2012, it's been the age of mind control like Black Lives Matter ever since, which is almost a decade now.
That's why it's so serious now.
Once upon a time it was pretty much purely a place of free flowing information, then the elites realized the potential it had for mind control and with the first big test being Kony 2012, it's been the age of mind control like Black Lives Matter ever since, which is almost a decade now.
That's why it's so serious now.
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Because the assholes who run the prison that is this modern world want the prisoners divided among themselves instead of united against the jailers?
They also want us to live in a cybernetic soy hive of bugmen, so life revolves around the internet more and more.
And that's why the honknet of Current Year Clown World is serious business.
They also want us to live in a cybernetic soy hive of bugmen, so life revolves around the internet more and more.
And that's why the honknet of Current Year Clown World is serious business.
PaleTay
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That's actually an interesting point, up until like 2014 a lot of the rich white girls loved banter and would immediately defend me if someone got offended by anything I said, but one day their public opinion just shifted drastically.
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eternal september
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It's kind of incredible the way the internet has synced up with cultural moments.
In the 2000s people were interested in the truth, in the climate of the post 9/11 era and being lied to about the "War on Terror" the attitude was "question everything" and the internet was there as the perfect tool for people to do that and express their thoughts.
But it was also just the cultural zeitgeist of the era, for a pop cultural example check out the movie In Bruges, a movie about characters grappling with the bigger questions in life, for a perfect example of the zeitgeist of the 2000s.
Trouble is people started questioning too many things, things they didn't want questioned and the crackdown on free speech came, but I think we would have lived through similar situations even without the internet because that was just the zeitgeist of the 2000s and 2010s.
In the 2000s people were interested in the truth, in the climate of the post 9/11 era and being lied to about the "War on Terror" the attitude was "question everything" and the internet was there as the perfect tool for people to do that and express their thoughts.
But it was also just the cultural zeitgeist of the era, for a pop cultural example check out the movie In Bruges, a movie about characters grappling with the bigger questions in life, for a perfect example of the zeitgeist of the 2000s.
Trouble is people started questioning too many things, things they didn't want questioned and the crackdown on free speech came, but I think we would have lived through similar situations even without the internet because that was just the zeitgeist of the 2000s and 2010s.
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Like someone else said here on KF, in the West it feels like an endless 2015 or 2016 now. Although worse because of the endless
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Popularity ruins everything.why can't anyone have fun anymore
(popularity is also democracy)
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The internet went downhill when websites stopped using frames & gifs
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Because in the back of a lot of people's minds they know something is really, REALLY fucking wrong, and it's bugging the hell out of them. They want answers. They want a solution. Something. Anything. The Internet's a great resource for that, right? Lot of answers there.
Joke's on them.
Joke's on them.
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I would say an endless 2016, 2015 was the last year things still felt kinda normal, 2015 was all in all a good year, didn't hate it at the time and look back on it with a lot of fondness today.
But shit hit the fan in 2016 and we've been frozen in that year ever since, hipster types still basically dress exactly the same now as they did then, it really does feel like 2016 was just yesterday even though it was 5 whole years ago, that's not normal, compare 2000 to 2005, 2005 to 2010 and 2010 to 2015.
2015 really does seem like it marked the end of some great big epoch in human history, although I think that process actually started in 2007, but 2015 was the last year of the world we all grew up in, 2016 and onward has been some Bizarro Clown World alternate dimension where everyone is an insane idiot and everything has to be the polar opposite of the way it used to be.
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Super Sad Smile
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My 2 cents is that most sites/apps got infested by 2 groups of narcissists:
1.) People who were important and wanted everyone to know it
2.) People who wanted to be like group 1 and used any issue or topic to get attention.
Then both groups kept trying to one-up the other, gatekeep any dissent, and we got to this point.
1.) People who were important and wanted everyone to know it
2.) People who wanted to be like group 1 and used any issue or topic to get attention.
Then both groups kept trying to one-up the other, gatekeep any dissent, and we got to this point.
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This graphic explains it all - or at least most of it.
In 2021, it's probably even more consolidated.
In 2021, it's probably even more consolidated.
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The first wave of dipshits arrived with AOL, during the waning days of Usenet. Web culture was totally alien to them and they had trouble assimilating with the clipped verbiage and frank obscenity of the average IRC or BBS user. Most dipshits used to hang out on ICQ or AIM and email each other with AOL or Yahoo accounts. Newsgroups were on their way out, but forums were still reasonably healthy. This encompasses the period from the late 90s to the mid-2000s.
There was something of a brief cultural renaissance in this period, with flash animations and games being a big deal and enjoying a strong indie scene. The internet was still intimidating for the vast majority of normal people around this time. Then, along came Facebook, MySpace, and LiveJournal to fuck things up. The real death knell of intelligent conversation on the internet was sometime around 2009. Smartphones had taken off, and with them, instant access to the internet for every drooling dipshit.
Sites started dumbing down their content rating systems, which were originally implemented to get rid of spammy posts like "I agree" and "+1" and the unnecessary database overhead they represented. 1 to 10 ratings became 1 to 5 stars. 1 to 5 stars morphed into likes and dislikes. Some sites eventually dropped dislikes entirely, not wanting people to pitch shitfits over negrates (like Nexus Mods). Forum systems started introducing likes for individual posts and, in the case of Gawker’s ludicrous Kinja system, comment systems started prioritizing content based on how many good-boy stars it got, ostensibly with the aim of eliminating trolls and encouraging civil discourse. The net result of this was the gamification of the internet. Now, rather than saying controversial things, like telling someone they disagree with to lick their sweaty taint, people say whatever they think will give them the biggest dopamine high from the greatest quantity of popular approval. The internet's decline into a vast popularity contest slash beauty pageant had finally begun.
Many news outlets eliminated comment systems entirely because they didn’t like people complaining about the Lugenpresse and their dumb-as-shit prolefeed. Obama legalized the use of propaganda against Americans with the Smith-Mundt Act, and thereafter, all news outlets went from being mildly propagandistic to extremely propagandistic. With the rise of SJWs, first on LJ and Tumblr and quickly spreading to infect the whole goddamn internet, the web was Balkanized and bifurcated into two general domains; the one with the angelic progressives who fart butterflies and rainbows and can do no wrong, and the one with the right-wing doo-doo heads who apparently want to lynch melanated folk and queers. These two groups of people never talk to each other except in screamed invective.
A kind of extreme tribalism has taken root, centered not on fun things, like the jolly good rivalry of the Console Wars, but on an increasingly hostile populace that has been forced to ask some very basic questions about the kind of society that they wish to live in, finding that the reality falls far short of their expectations. The state of the internet has increasingly come to reflect the utterly deranged and hyper-polarized nature of our politics. The new generation has grown up with recessions, unpaid tuition debts, and terrible job prospects. Home ownership - and with it, some semblance of normalcy - always seems to shimmer and vanish into the horizon, like a mirage. In many developed countries, younger people's share of their respective nations' wealth is shrinking to nothing. They're bitter and hostile about it, so naturally, they look for an outlet for that hostility, taking it out on total strangers.
People are gaslighted by our governments and our media. Advertisers have gone out of their way to try and restrict a lot of the edgier content that defined the early internet and its culture, withholding ad support for sites that fall out of compliance with an increasingly corporatized and homogenized web. All manner of limitations on free speech have been exercised, partly to avoid offending groups on the basis of race, gender, or religion, but also to put a leash on internet culture itself. W
hy is this happening? To put it bluntly, governments and corporations were scared as shit over the web in its old incarnation. Wikileaks and other whistleblowers scraped back the layer of shellac that they’d rubbed onto the polished turds that were their foreign and domestic policies. Bloggers and independent journalists were going outside the limits of the controlled media and revealing ugly truths about the way our societies are actually run. Governments would love it if they could blast a megaphone over all of this and drown out rational conversation by any means necessary.
China has literal armies of trolls who manipulate narratives online. So does every other intelligence agency on Earth. They all have a vested interest in controlling what you think and believe, and so do the big media corporations and advertisers who are upset over the increasing obsolescence of their business model. Armies of fact-checkers, propagandists, and professional shit-disturbers have all but obliterated meaningful online discourse except in the most obscene corners of the web where their influence cannot easily penetrate. People are accused of peddling conspiracy theories even when they have clear evidence of collusion, conspiracy, and racketeering stretching all the way from Silicon Valley to DC and back. Independent investigators found that there was a revolving door between Alphabet and the Obama administration, for fuck's sake.
In short, the most powerful people on Earth were shit-scared of the old, unadulterated internet, as it used to be. So, they got together with the corpos and conjured up new cyber-divisions of their intelligence agencies, and they deliberately shitted it up. When you ask banks why they've debanked you, and when you ask advertisers why they've deplatformed you, they offer platitudes and excuses. They insist they're just following regulations. It's not us, they say. It's the government. We're just following the rules.
At this point, we really have to ask ourselves if the increasing consolidation of the internet and the concentration of the power over our communications in the hands of a few tech oligarchs is something we want to continue, or if we want to do things differently, and put the power back in the hands of the people.
There was something of a brief cultural renaissance in this period, with flash animations and games being a big deal and enjoying a strong indie scene. The internet was still intimidating for the vast majority of normal people around this time. Then, along came Facebook, MySpace, and LiveJournal to fuck things up. The real death knell of intelligent conversation on the internet was sometime around 2009. Smartphones had taken off, and with them, instant access to the internet for every drooling dipshit.
Sites started dumbing down their content rating systems, which were originally implemented to get rid of spammy posts like "I agree" and "+1" and the unnecessary database overhead they represented. 1 to 10 ratings became 1 to 5 stars. 1 to 5 stars morphed into likes and dislikes. Some sites eventually dropped dislikes entirely, not wanting people to pitch shitfits over negrates (like Nexus Mods). Forum systems started introducing likes for individual posts and, in the case of Gawker’s ludicrous Kinja system, comment systems started prioritizing content based on how many good-boy stars it got, ostensibly with the aim of eliminating trolls and encouraging civil discourse. The net result of this was the gamification of the internet. Now, rather than saying controversial things, like telling someone they disagree with to lick their sweaty taint, people say whatever they think will give them the biggest dopamine high from the greatest quantity of popular approval. The internet's decline into a vast popularity contest slash beauty pageant had finally begun.
Many news outlets eliminated comment systems entirely because they didn’t like people complaining about the Lugenpresse and their dumb-as-shit prolefeed. Obama legalized the use of propaganda against Americans with the Smith-Mundt Act, and thereafter, all news outlets went from being mildly propagandistic to extremely propagandistic. With the rise of SJWs, first on LJ and Tumblr and quickly spreading to infect the whole goddamn internet, the web was Balkanized and bifurcated into two general domains; the one with the angelic progressives who fart butterflies and rainbows and can do no wrong, and the one with the right-wing doo-doo heads who apparently want to lynch melanated folk and queers. These two groups of people never talk to each other except in screamed invective.
A kind of extreme tribalism has taken root, centered not on fun things, like the jolly good rivalry of the Console Wars, but on an increasingly hostile populace that has been forced to ask some very basic questions about the kind of society that they wish to live in, finding that the reality falls far short of their expectations. The state of the internet has increasingly come to reflect the utterly deranged and hyper-polarized nature of our politics. The new generation has grown up with recessions, unpaid tuition debts, and terrible job prospects. Home ownership - and with it, some semblance of normalcy - always seems to shimmer and vanish into the horizon, like a mirage. In many developed countries, younger people's share of their respective nations' wealth is shrinking to nothing. They're bitter and hostile about it, so naturally, they look for an outlet for that hostility, taking it out on total strangers.
People are gaslighted by our governments and our media. Advertisers have gone out of their way to try and restrict a lot of the edgier content that defined the early internet and its culture, withholding ad support for sites that fall out of compliance with an increasingly corporatized and homogenized web. All manner of limitations on free speech have been exercised, partly to avoid offending groups on the basis of race, gender, or religion, but also to put a leash on internet culture itself. W
hy is this happening? To put it bluntly, governments and corporations were scared as shit over the web in its old incarnation. Wikileaks and other whistleblowers scraped back the layer of shellac that they’d rubbed onto the polished turds that were their foreign and domestic policies. Bloggers and independent journalists were going outside the limits of the controlled media and revealing ugly truths about the way our societies are actually run. Governments would love it if they could blast a megaphone over all of this and drown out rational conversation by any means necessary.
China has literal armies of trolls who manipulate narratives online. So does every other intelligence agency on Earth. They all have a vested interest in controlling what you think and believe, and so do the big media corporations and advertisers who are upset over the increasing obsolescence of their business model. Armies of fact-checkers, propagandists, and professional shit-disturbers have all but obliterated meaningful online discourse except in the most obscene corners of the web where their influence cannot easily penetrate. People are accused of peddling conspiracy theories even when they have clear evidence of collusion, conspiracy, and racketeering stretching all the way from Silicon Valley to DC and back. Independent investigators found that there was a revolving door between Alphabet and the Obama administration, for fuck's sake.
In short, the most powerful people on Earth were shit-scared of the old, unadulterated internet, as it used to be. So, they got together with the corpos and conjured up new cyber-divisions of their intelligence agencies, and they deliberately shitted it up. When you ask banks why they've debanked you, and when you ask advertisers why they've deplatformed you, they offer platitudes and excuses. They insist they're just following regulations. It's not us, they say. It's the government. We're just following the rules.
At this point, we really have to ask ourselves if the increasing consolidation of the internet and the concentration of the power over our communications in the hands of a few tech oligarchs is something we want to continue, or if we want to do things differently, and put the power back in the hands of the people.
A certain level of edginess is a good filter. It keeps the pro-censorship shit-eaters out.
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So in other words, this is hell, and asshole Homo sapiens - especially among elites and politicians - are the devils. I guess an endless 2016 (as @Dom Cruise said) is very useful to them keeping (and increasing) the power they have.
I wonder if this dystopia can even end.
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Mr. Bones wasn't kidding when he said the ride never ends!
But I agree though. Something has gone wrong and it almost seems like there's no turning back.
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We should of never proliferated the internet into real life.
Real life just feels like an extension of the internet to me.
Also fighting for a better future is a noble cause if it wasn't for SJW's saying stuff like "OMG you said a word you shouldn't of said." or "You are a terrible person because you did ONE inappropriate action" or even "If you don't like our ideas go kill yourself". IMHO we should be teaching our future generation better rather than forcing this shit down everybody's throats.
Real life just feels like an extension of the internet to me.
Also fighting for a better future is a noble cause if it wasn't for SJW's saying stuff like "OMG you said a word you shouldn't of said." or "You are a terrible person because you did ONE inappropriate action" or even "If you don't like our ideas go kill yourself". IMHO we should be teaching our future generation better rather than forcing this shit down everybody's throats.