Why is the Lab Leak theory controversial?

[skykiii]

I'm calling it a "theory" out of respect for a friend of mine who might see this topic as they read my Farms post.

Weeks back I got to discussing it with them and it appears people who are more conservative tend to believe Covid came from a lab leak, while the left does not.

But it just now occured to me to ask... why is this a partisan issue to begin with?

One reason I'm inclined to believe the lab leak is because, I mean, its China. Them fucking up and releasing a virus into the population is just a normal Tuesday for them. So I really don't see why it matters if the Lab Leak really happened or not.

If the Lab Leak didn't happen, what would the Right gain out of claiming it did?

If the Lab Leak did happen, what would the Left gain out of denying it?

Or is this just a case of mindless contrarianism?

 

[libRT]

I think its now official that it was a lab leak, can't remember the details but it was confirmed by some authority.

 

[Kiska]

The issue with the "Wuhan lab leak theory" is that there is demonstrable evidence of SARS-CoV-2 spreading in Brazil and Spain well before the dates that proponents of the theory give to it, and "mysterious illness" outbreaks that occurred in mid-late 2019 such as in California that still haven't been concretely resolved.

A lot of america on chinese discourse is flat out bullshit, won't defend China as I'm not obligated to but leftists in the US propogate theories such a that and the Xinjiang Muslim extermination theory as a means of increasing anti-chinese sentiment, and the rightist reactionaries often parrot it without verifying its authenticity since it makes for good ammunition for scapegoating.

 

[Cucktry Roads]

The reason Biden gave Fauci a pardon was cause he lied before congress about gain of function research. Covid did come from China in a lab funded by the US. The media pushed the narrative that it was a conspiracy theory for multiple reasons

1)Anything negative about china would lead to less kickbacks from China since China is probably the 2nd biggest funder of our political system after Israel
2)It makes diversity and all that bullshit look back.
3)The media is in bed with the deep state and democrats, so they didn't want their buddies catching legal issues for gain of function.

 

[I Shidded I Farded I Came]

If the Lab Leak did happen, what would the Left gain out of denying it?

Several of their favorite dindus and tax grifts were directly involved in funding the illegal gain of function research and skirting American law by laundering money through NGO's and government aid organizations. Lab leak is not a theory in the colloquial sense (basically a guess) but an actual theory in that it is the best explanation we have for the observable evidence. This has not been controversial for more than two years.

 

[Meriasek]

It's controversial because THE SCIENCE has declared it false.
Thing is, governments and scientific institutions flipflopped in the early days of the pandemic from the virus being a nothingburger to it being the Apocalypse, and in the process turned the public perception of itself to demanding worship. Trust the science. So after they declared that the lab leak was implausible, they couldn't go back on that.

 

[NoBueno]

It's controversial because THE SCIENCE has declared it false.
Thing is, governments and scientific institutions flipflopped in the early days of the pandemic from the virus being a nothingburger to it being the Apocalypse, and in the process turned the public perception of itself to demanding worship. Trust the science. So after they declared that the lab leak was implausible, they couldn't go back on that.

I think it was intentional to muddy the waters. Now theres a big argument. So the distraction is complete

Now you aren't focused on the previous US "lab leaks" you are busy fighting the anti china guy

 

[grump]

because batburger theory allowed proggies/China to blame a laundry list of things and people they wanted to, chiefly the meat industry and excuse those they didn't like suspect chinese researchers. And trump supported lableak so they have to be against it. And they were too lazy to think of ways to blame who they wanted under lableak or in China's case some people are too dumb to realize batburger or lableak has no relevance in the PRCs culpability and again trump believed in lableak so its batburger for them. Thats really all there is to it.

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

The issue with the "Wuhan lab leak theory" is that there is demonstrable evidence of SARS-CoV-2 spreading in Brazil and Spain well before the dates that proponents of the theory give to it, and "mysterious illness" outbreaks that occurred in mid-late 2019 such as in California that still haven't been concretely resolved.

Just because a journal published it doesn’t make it true. The idea that COVID was circulating in Spain in March but just went dormant for 9 months before going absolutely GANGBUSTERS is so far-fetched as to be absurd.

The Brazil one is slightly more plausible as it’s only 5 days before symptoms began in China, but is there any other evidence to support it? A single sample can be wrong for any number of reasons.

 

[Penis Drager 2.0]

why is this a partisan issue to begin with?

"Trusted authorities" said that it definitely didn't happen and "trust in authorities" has become a partisan issue.

One reason I'm inclined to believe the lab leak is because, I mean, its China. Them fucking up and releasing a virus into the population is just a normal Tuesday for them

On that same note: I have been pretty inclined to believe the bat soup theory because, I mean, it's China. Them eating gross shit and contracting disease from it is just another Tuesday for them.

what would the Right gain out of claiming it did?

Garners distrust in authorities and makes them feel good for being privy to "hidden knowledge" and/or rejecting the "mainstream narrative."

what would the Left gain out of denying it?

Establishes trust in authorities and makes them feel good for believing the "correct" things and/or rejecting "fringe conspiracy theories."

Or is this just a case of mindless contrarianism?

More like heel digging and pride. But basically.

It's not that complicated.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I take the idea that most of Covid was used as means to get at Trump. Not saying the Dems pre-made it, but once it was out, it was the perfect vessel to do damage to the Trump campaign. Dems took the side of all things Covid and the "science" so they can run on Trump wanting to kill grandma. Anyone questioning the insanity was a Trumptard conspiracy theorist.

The Dems took any and all positions that made Trump the bad guy, explaining all contradictions. It is why even though they went hard on people needing to be home and distancing, then also took to the Floyd riots as a necessary means of protest. Hell, even though they wanted to sacrifice the economy for safety, they then went back and bitched on how Trump ruined the economy. They weren't even fully onboard with vaccines till Biden came to power.

The entire situation was a grift, but one they need to at least try to maintain. Admitting Trump was right about China and the leak would ruin the grift. You could maybe get away with the contradictions above, but I think the lab leak is a step too far for most supporters.

 

[big pauper]

I take the idea that most of Covid was used as means to get at Trump. Not saying the Dems pre-made it,

You can say that it was manufactured from the start, they already had the plan before the virus existed

 

[Whatevermancer]

Is it controversial? It seemed to be one of more reasonable theories, especially compared to "chinks eat bats lol they got corona from bat soup lol" or "corona is the NWO depopulation plan".

 

[Kiska]

Just because a journal published it doesn’t make it true. The idea that COVID was circulating in Spain in March but just went dormant for 9 months before going absolutely GANGBUSTERS is so far-fetched as to be absurd.

The Brazil one is slightly more plausible as it’s only 5 days before symptoms began in China, but is there any other evidence to support it? A single sample can be wrong for any number of reasons.

I agree that just because something is in a journal, it doesn't make it automatically correct. I know full well what leftist bullshit the Biden Administration polluted global scientific journals with. This is why I actually read and analyzed both articles that were hyperlinked before linking them (I had them saved from when I did a report about something like this a year ago in school- the former is literally free, the latter the preprint is free but the published study needs an institution login, I will admit though I linked a Reuters article talking about it instead of the study itself and Reuters is often a bad source of information, so the free pre-print version can be seen here.)

My point exactly is there is ample evidence that dates back at least several months that SARS CoV-2 spread prior to any country concretely identifying it, and it's nearly impossible for such a brand new viral outbreak to be correctly identified outside of nations that have the most advanced medical systems on Earth, which definitely aren't Brazil and Spain. It's not like SARS CoV-2 never "vanished" in these month long interims between the 2 studies, the fact of the matter is the virus literally exhibits flu-like symptoms and a flu-like infection season period, making it very likely that almost all instances of it were misdiagnosed prior to it being properly discovered and a means of effectively testing it being created. I've also seen people attribute significant increases in J18.9 (Unspecified Pneumonia) deaths in the September to November period of 2019 - this is prior to it being identified in China as well but I will not stand by such claims without definitive evidence unlike the studies that used other methodology to reach such conclusions.


Also I think fauci should get unpardoned and thrown in jail for being a faggot and trying to destroy the entire US economy but that's unrelated.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

My issue with lab leak is, that the government is using it to handwave away all the damage they did with lockdowns, masking, forced jabs, etc when COVID (if it was even real) was pretty much a nothing burger even at its worst. Many "COVID deaths" were caused by medical malpractice rather than the disease itself.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

Because part of the psyop was to identify the true NPC's among us, to identify those who would truly swallow anything fed to the by Goymancers.

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

If it were true, it would not matter if it was accidentally released. It would not matter even if people recognized that it was an accident and not deliberate. It would not matter that it was the government of China, and not the US government.

Because, from the point of view of the bureaucrats and apparatchiks, anything that embarrasses the government and is suggestive that the government can't be trusted to be competent is an attack on something that is both their livelihood and their religion. That attack is wholly and absolutely unacceptable.

If any of the other circumstances differ, that just makes it worse? The possibility that the US government was in cahoots? That it might nto ahve been accidental? Now something that was only a crisis before is the end of the world. And be honest, even if it was an accident, you wouldn't feel better about it (like, wtf, imagine that they're all just retarded buffoons who let this stuff escape labs... we'd be hunting them and burning them in makeshift bonfires). Their inclination to go into cover-up mode isn't all that appealing either. And this is the absolute best-case scenario.

The worst, I think, is that even if it wasn't an accidental lab leak but just the inevitable pandemic, they're so cartoonishly secretive and incompetent that they can't prove to us that it wasn't a lab leak. And that too is a problem. Where are our tax dollars being wasted, exactly, that we pay trillions and get this clown show?

So, considering all this, it's not exactly unreasonable to suspect that there might be worse still.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

because then youd admit the chuds were right on something and thats not how wingcucks work

 

[NoBueno]

Because part of the psyop was to identify the true NPC's among us, to identify those who would truly swallow anything fed to the by Goymancers.