Why is this place so much better than other sites like it? - I'm honestly not shilling on behalf of the mods, just new and getting a good feel for the place.

[chicken wings]

I think the passive aggressive "lets put all this info out and laugh from a distance but if you engage in cow tipping then we'll also laugh at you" approach works well enough. Also @Null is a fucking litigation ninja/Houdini.

 

[Positron]

I'd say a large part of it is due to the community/mods. The other day I posted an Op-Ed about the transexual movement hurting actual women, and instead of just removing it and/or muting me for not knowing better, someone moved it over to the mega thread and gave me a reason why is moved. It helped me learn how to contribute better without punishing me for not knowing better.

Oh I learned something too, and the anonymous modding is always a plus:

 

[hambeerlyingnreed]

+ It's anon but you can see the posters name and icon, so you can connect the post to the person.

+ There's lots of Fat People Hate, but it's not limited to that. Also, users don't have to censor themselves to say anything other than "KYS landwhale" about an obese cow.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

The wifi at the Wendy's I just ate at apparently disagrees with the awesomeness of this place.

 

[BenevolenceInDenial]

I pretty much agree with everything people in this thread already said, if only to share my personal opinion. I haven't used any forum of sorts since 2012, and that was a poor forum, both because of its purpose, but also because there wasn't any... culture, that's present there. Most people didn't bother about grammar, and when you don't bother about grammar, it really shows no will to properly communicate. And there really seems to be no alternatives to this site, as far as I'm aware. Mainstream media and forums are excessively modded and "opinionwashed", anonymous imageboards always disgusted me (because the notion to join such place for me lies in either deep insecurity or lightheaded destructive behaviour), and past this forum, known for doxing and bullying, seems to be only dark web. Granted, it acts as a shield from many a "special" type of person, effectively becoming... a shelter.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

Kiwi Farms blocked for "explicit violence"

So when are they banning the news?

_

back to the subject at hand.

First and foremost, the owner of the site isn't a complete tool. It is surprising how much that helps generate a good community.

Second, as people have already noted, the structure and moderation of the site lend itself to controlling spergery.

Third, the "founding principles" of this site have contributed to board culture that encourages lurking (if I recall, the average first visit to account creation is about 6 months) and more thoughtful posts.

Fourth, there is room for people to make their own niche while still allowing crossover. A defense news exceptional like me can futz around A&H while still being able to make forays into the different cow genres. Neophyte followers of a topic tend to be welcomed, and the intelligence level of each thread tends to be consistently decent (with the exception of those in "Deep Thoughts," those vary wildly.).

Fifth, Opinions are allowed here. Others have articulated that better that I have though.

Sixth and final, This is a community funded site, supported only by the generosity of Dear Leader, and his loyal followers. Probably helps bind us together, or something.

Now, if only there we had a board for technology, and a board for guns, this place would be my go to forum for everything. Seriously, I would contribute a lot to those boards.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Everyone is saying "everyone is so nice" and while that's true I think the potential severity of being an absolute asshole here is way worse than other websites.

SA you can get banned and be out $10, Twitter/Reddit/whatever you can get banned but make a new account, 4chan/facebook same shit.

Here you can be an asshole but if you cross a line and constantly do asinine shit, you're going to get people looking for you and they've got a pretty good chance to find you. Acting like a literal retard on KF will get you Halal'ed. It doesn't happen often but it happens enough where people treat this forum with just a little bit more respect than they would traditionally treat an internet forum.

I would compare it to a nice hangout bar, but the nice hangout bar in your town where the cops frequent. It isn't technically any different than a normal bar but you are always careful to not cause a ruckus there.

 

[guccigash]

I think it's because we are strictly observers and while interpretation/speculation/shitposting is mostly fine, anyone who tries to give "new information" without getting verified or providing receipts is promptly told to fuck off. The powerleveling rule helps a lot too, tbh a lot of the TMI ratings are given to posts that don't really warrant it, but it helps people not get too comfortable and veer off into actual powerlevel territory so it's probably for the best. It keeps attention-seeking faggotry to a minimum and preemptively nixes like 90% of shit that could potentially drag a thread off topic.

I think the ratings help too, it's a way to acknowledge a post and not shit up threads with posts that have little content beyond saying "I agree/disagree with you" or "nigga are you stupid?" or "you clearly didn't read the fucking thread" or whatever while still getting your point across.

was about to post - the powerlevelling thing. i think it's an integral part. i don't think the place would be possible without it. self governing keep your personal shit out of this and almost pathological self dox avoidance. yes.

i do do some other SM, as you do. but KF is the only place i'll call a spade a spade.

 

[MAPK phosphatase]

A lot of this has already been covered.
1. The mods are reasonable. Every time I've broken a rule the mods solved the problem without a ban while informing me what I did wrong.
2. The site doesn't hide posts people disagree with like Reddit and it's voting system.
3. It's a lolcow forum, so we all see examples of how not to act on a daily basis, and if you're really autistic people are explaining why not to act that way, and saying how to act instead. The last place you want to act like an exceptional individual is on a website dedicated to laughing at exceptional individuals. Everyone on this site knows the capabilities of weaponized autism and doesn't want that weapon turned in their direction.
4. As Null said, this isn't a free speech alternative to another site. People come here to laugh at speds. People don't come here because a more popular site doesn't tolerate them being right wing. This means we get more variety in opinions. We have pages laughing at people on the right, on the left, people with indeterminate political opinions, and everything in-between.
5. @Null has actual principles and isn't just an agent of his political tribe.
6. We're viewed as a dangerous far right Nazi website, when in reality we're moderate centrist-leaning-right website with people all over the spectrum both political and autism. This scares away the people on the left who believe everything they hear from their side of the isle, so we don't have to deal with them, then when the actual Nazis come here expecting a hug box they soon realize their idols and thought-leaders have threads too.
7. The "no power-leveling" rule and the dox-loving nature of this site promotes the maintenance of anonymity, which side-steps clout chasing and attention whoring.
8. We are watchers and observers. Getting involved will get you a thread, so people are incentivized to avoid it.
9. The user-base is hyper aware of trolls and how to deal with them, and as a result KiwiFarms is far more difficult to troll than other sites. Trolls who just want to get a rise out of people go elsewhere, and trolls who do try to get a rise out of people here usually don't get what they're seeking.

 

[The_wandering_nibler]

For us nubies do you have any (purely educational) examples of internal drama that was particularly lulz worthy?

 

[Splendid]

Look up what happened to @asterisk and @Cucky

 

[The_wandering_nibler]

Fuck, I tried to start some drama here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/do-yo...ies-about-a-fat-girl-doing-stupid-shit.57391/ Lasted 2 rows before being closed on clearly racist grounds. At least they didn't assume my gender as well. I didn't mind baiting the fanboys for some stomping but the closing of the thread was unexpected.

Seriously though, I thought you guys were cool. But I guess the way other people sperg out about niggas, faggots and bacon, some of you take your cows seriously!

It's kinda precious in a way. Basically while it seems to be that all other topics are open to discussion (leftism vs rightism, religion, sexuality, nonsense, genocide, humour, etc) the actual focal point of the community is stil a hivemind circlejerk of sorts.


@Splendid Meat Sticks, I think that Asterisk must be an new profile/the wrong profile since there's only 4 posts there. The cuck is locked as private so I can't view that, pun intended.

 

[sunshine]

Fuck, I tried to start some drama here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/do-yo...ies-about-a-fat-girl-doing-stupid-shit.57391/ Lasted 2 rows before being closed on clearly racist grounds. At least they didn't assume my gender as well. I didn't mind baiting the fanboys for some stomping but the closing of the thread was unexpected.

Seriously though, I thought you guys were cool. But I guess the way other people sperg out about niggas, faggots and bacon, some of you take your cows seriously!

It's kinda precious in a way. Basically while it seems to be that all other topics are open to discussion (leftism vs rightism, religion, sexuality, nonsense, genocide, humour, etc) the actual focal point of the community is stil a hivemind circlejerk of sorts.


@Splendid Meat Sticks, I think that Asterisk must be an new profile/the wrong profile since there's only 4 posts there. The cuck is locked as private so I can't view that, pun intended.

I like that this website has a search feature, so people can easily dig into old drama even when the star of the show’s account has been locked or deleted.

Also that it’s a very big website covering a wide range of topics, so if, say, Amberlynn Reid doesn’t interest you, you can just ignore her thread in favor of any of the thousands that will. You can really tailor your site experience to your tastes.

People will have relevant tangential conversations, but there’s generally an effort to keep threads on topic, which keeps things engaging and easy to follow.

It’s also nice to have a place where I don’t need to explain my compulsion to follow weirdos online, because here, people either understand or don’t care.

 

[The_wandering_nibler]

That's just the defense any circle jerk or fanclub uses as an excuses. And let's face it, these people make their living on the attention they get, whether it's positive or negative. So that's what it is ultimately.

The lack of negative cross-platform interaction, i.e. critique or flaming of users in these forums over their as you said obsessions or choice of lolcows shows that there's at best a kind of gentlemans agreement. But this leads to a kind of twisted conclussion. There's ultimately no different from this and Resetera (which is a mock-object of mine). We're/you're as unwilling as them to slaughter our holy cow(s), pun intended.


Theirs is just one very bloated, gigantic holy cow of political correctness/SJWs but start flaming fascists and you can use what ever language you want as long as it doesn't rub bad against their holy cow.

It's not really Amberlynn Reid or any one particular that's fascinating but the way the community in that forum reacted so brazenly, letting themselves be be baited so easily. Let's just say the herd mentality was present and beautiful to watch in its total self-ignorance.

@sunshine By the way, a personal question: Why don't you want your obsession questioned?
I don't really think I have an obsession with Resetera let's say but I wouldn't mind at all someone shitting all over it, saying how great that forum is or how pointless it is to care about it or some other such position. Tearing that apart would be fun.

Maybe it wouldn't be as easy with Amberlynn? Maybe she's like One Punch Man, or a sitcom, a stupid little distraction that doesn't require validation but I don't think there's anything wrong shitting over someones choice of TV show, so there shouldn't be over their choice of lolcow either.

 

[sunshine]

@sunshine By the way, a personal question: Why don't you want your obsession questioned?
I don't really think I have an obsession with Resetera let's say but I wouldn't mind at all someone shitting all over it, saying how great that forum is or how pointless it is to care about it or some other such position. Tearing that apart would be fun

I’m not sure what “obsession” you mean. I do think about why we “like” the cows we do, what that might say about us, what the fuck even is this site, etc.

It’s just that it feels off-topic, to me, in threads designated for documenting and discussing a cow, and I’m (clearly) a pretty big rulesfag. It’s also a buzzkill, and as you saw in the Amberlynn thread, people don’t take kindly to having their party-threads crashed.

I think the conversation you want to have is really interesting. I’m pretty new and kind of stupid, though, so would likely be punching above my weight if I tried to have it. Maybe it should be a thread, if it isn’t already?

 

[Kanna]

I don't have anything cool to say outside of this place being one of the only places that gets attention to the side and gets it's facts straight. I just come here to laugh at cows, and honestly that's all I ever want from this site. Some of these people are so "exceptional" that they really do deserve documentation for the next generation to see and go "holy shit, this person was REAL". Explaining someone like CWC to a normal person would definitely make them think you're making shit up.

 

[The_wandering_nibler]

@sunshine neither do I, it's the obsession I quoted you saying that you have.
It'z a buzzkill in some sense for sure though. Oh well, whatevs.

 

[chicken wings]

Fuck, I tried to start some drama here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/do-yo...ies-about-a-fat-girl-doing-stupid-shit.57391/ Lasted 2 rows before being closed on clearly racist grounds. At least they didn't assume my gender as well. I didn't mind baiting the fanboys for some stomping but the closing of the thread was unexpected.

2edgy4me

 

[JM 590]

It seems like the quality of a forum entirely hinges on the attitude of the leadership.

GameFAQs' boards are rife with garbage due to their moderators following the book to the T. They're not allowed to use much discretion, so a lot of otherwise quality posts might get completely deleted, with the poster getting their account suspended or banned because of some inane rule. For a very long time, censor bypassing was heavily against the rules, with repeated offenses leading to account suspensions. What's censor bypassing? When you type "s***" instead of "****". Oh no, now they'll know you meant to say "shit". Fuck your post and whatever it contained, you BROKE THE RULES.

That kind of moderation policy just led to the entire forum being a perpetual battleground of idiots trying to goad one another into breaking a rule, which made for a hostile community.

That rule's no longer in place, but the GameFAQs boards largely haven't changed much in the 20 years they've been around. The boards did get noticeably better when SBAllen took over and CJayC left (CJayC was a terrible administrator), but, moderators still moderate in the exact same by-the-books way to this day, and the boards have remained cheekily hostile.

If you do have a post deleted, you'll get a terse message from an anonymous moderator, telling you what you did wrong, with options to appeal the moderation, or accept it. It's designed in a way that gives a sense that this is your moderator:

Complete with harsh warnings that abusing the system will get you in even more trouble. Oh no~!

So, you write something back to them, explaining what you did or just snarking off, and you'll get a reply from that same anonymous moderator with no way to reply back. They always get the last word, and since they're kept anonymous, it's very infuriating. That comes out on the boards, and it's just helped keep GameFAQs a giant shithole.

Kiwi Farms has none of that kind of shit. From what I've seen, the mods here have been very much in the background and accommodating, happy to help whomever needs it. The mods don't give users a reason to feel like they need to rebel against them like GameFAQs' do. Or ResetEra, Something Awful, Reddit, etc.

 

[sunshine]

@sunshine neither do I, it's the obsession I quoted you saying that you have.
It'z a buzzkill in some sense for sure though. Oh well, whatevs.

A compulsion is an urge, not an obsession.

Have fun and good luck stirring the shit!