why men troon out

[Inside your walls]

After seeing so much troon bullshit take shape on the internet and having to deal with it personally this is my take/observation

Spoiler: Reason to trooning out (usually associated with MTF)

-They are unhappy or bored with their lives, get no attention irl. So they resort to seeking attention from extremely wrong crowds of people.
-Consuming media (other than porn) that romanticizes or completely infantilize womanhood, best example I could think of is, typical slice of life or yuri anime, it can be a combo of both. Usually, they look at these types of media while being in a shit mental state, see anime girls kissing each other or doing "cute things, think "I bet my life would be super great if I was a girl" while completely forgetting that this sort of media is exaggerated to great proporitions and get rudely awakened when they realize that being a woman isn't a kawaii uguu wholesome yuri experience like their fellow agps promised them to be.
-They have backwards thinking of "If I have a trait or hobby that people associated with opposite gender then I MUST be something else" when in reality there is no sub-text like that at all
-Fall for the incel meme of "Your life would be easier if you were a girl"
-Feel like they failed as a man in some point of their life so they must be a woman

 

[Moja Zemlja]

Because transgenderism is basically a cult and like all cults they prey mainly upon the weak minded, you rarely if ever see someone with a strong sense of self or self-confidence troon out and thats why.

 

[Little oak tree]

Because transgenderism is basically a cult and like all cults they prey mainly upon the weak minded, you rarely if ever see someone with a strong sense of self or self-confidence troon out and thats why.

I totally agree with that.
But the majority of people are affiliated to some religion, glorified cults basically.

 

[Vril-Dame vom Aldebaran]

The feminists aren't necessarily wrong when they talk about "the male gaze" and stuff like that, in more traditional cultures male characters are often presented as something a man should strive to be whereas a female character is presented as an object of desire, compare say Indiana Jones to Lara Croft, Indy's body is never as empathized as Lara's breasts are, Indy's presented as a character you want to be, Lara is someone who you want to be with, but for some guys the wires get crossed and they want to be what they find sexually attractive.

Lara Croft isn't just a hot chick, though, she's also extremely competent at what she does and a great female action hero role model. At least the original games, I hate how whiny they made her in the new ones. She always felt like a strong character to me and the Tomb Raider games even got me interested in archaeology. There are many other women who feel the same, because the old TR games are insanely popular among female gamers. Just look at the names of TRLE (Tomb Raider Level Editor) authors, most of the popular levels are made by women.

Aspiration to something greater is not entirely absent among women, but it's less pronounced and competition is less pronounced (or takes a different shape). I think that's why a lot of low-performing men who are tired of competition find solace in trannydom: they believe that by becoming a woman, they can escape the pressure of competition so commonplace in the male sphere. But they're wrong, because women also compete with each other, we just do it at a different level: it's usually social rather than physical. I honestly hate the dynamics of female conflict, but it is what it is.

And I can't help but notice that most MtF troons have a very feminine way of approaching conflict. They call their clique for help, try to attack their opponent's support network rather than the opponent himself (trying to get him fired from his job by notifying his boss of an offensive tweet, etc), use backstabby tactics, all of that bullshit. They rarely confront someone directly. Granted, that's a very common way to resolve conflict in the leftoid-sphere in general, but it's particularly noticeable with trannies because of how loud and obnoxious they are about it.

They are people who can't deal with the direct nature of male social interactions, so they want to enter the sphere of female interactions instead, which they feel is more suited to their nature. But they don't fit, and they never will, because we can sniff them out from miles away. They're phonies and it's obvious as fuck. They pretend to be women because they are too weak to be men, but they do not have the feminine psyche they think they do. They are just incredibly weak males who know they are below most men, but still believe themselves to be above regular women. So they turn themselves into a "woman", thinking they'd be at the top of the pecking order among us, while usually having an extreme internalized hatred against women. They don't want to be like us because they love us, but because they think we're so far below them that it's the only group they could ever rise to the top in.

Your average giga-troon is just an extremely frustrated man who gave up his own nature in an attempt to dominate those he considers below himself. Even incels have more self-respect than that.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Still just another arbitrary judgement system in the endless sea of people that want to twist language and reality their way just to excuse some unresolved issue.
Its simpler than that. We were talking about male and female gender, not about the characteristics that we culturally associate to each one.


I dont remember twilight very well but Edward might as well been a pale walking dildo to the authors self insert.
Ripley from alien is a hero and her worth are her actions, just a random example.
And again, i still think you are on denial on how little a huge part of men care about femme magic when a lot are bisexual and get turned on not because they are woman but because they are not

I'm not discrediting homosexuality or bisexuality, I'm just focusing on what used to be the norm until the 2010s and what forces still shape things even if people pretend they don't.

Crossing boundaries can absolutely be a turn on, if something's "naughty" and you're not supposed to do it, that can be a turn on, so a guy crossing that boundary, if he can actually pull it off, is no mystery why that would be a turn on to some guys, but it's still all predicated on female beauty being a standard turn on, do you know what I mean?

They are wrong, "male gaze" is attempt to pathologize normal and healthy behavior.

The troon thing is driven by hypersexual guys that get off dressing like women and giving themselves cringe stripper names or homosexuals that think they can have an easier time attracting men by dressing up as women.

They're wrong to say the "male gaze" is something bad, they're not wrong to say it exists at all though.

Lara Croft isn't just a hot chick, though, she's also extremely competent at what she does and a great female action hero role model. At least the original games, I hate how whiny they made her in the new ones. She always felt like a strong character to me and the Tomb Raider games even got me interested in archaeology. There are many other women who feel the same, because the old TR games are insanely popular among female gamers. Just look at the names of TRLE (Tomb Raider Level Editor) authors, most of the popular levels are made by women.

Aspiration to something greater is not entirely absent among women, but it's less pronounced and competition is less pronounced (or takes a different shape). I think that's why a lot of low-performing men who are tired of competition find solace in trannydom: they believe that by becoming a woman, they can escape the pressure of competition so commonplace in the male sphere. But they're wrong, because women also compete with each other, we just do it at a different level: it's usually social rather than physical. I honestly hate the dynamics of female conflict, but it is what it is.

Lara IS a strong character, beauty IS a type of strength, we've got this ass backwards idea that female beauty is weakness and that's all of course nonsense.

But I'm just pointing out the differences and this is another way in which our culture has become extremely screwed up is pointing out something is different doesn't mean something is better or worse than the other, that there isn't still equal value to these different traits, hence why "equality" is still a good ideal, so long as you can still acknowledge the basic reality of differences.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I have no idea. If you are an ugly man, it does not mean you are a woman. You have to go find an ugly woman. If you are ugly woman, it does not mean you are a man. You have to find an ugly man.

It probably goes deeper than that. But that's my take on it.

The sad thing is, many people who troon out actually don't look half-bad when they presented as their biological sex.

There are basic things you can do to improve your physical appearance, even if you're a soyboy or a bull dyke. It says a lot when such people are too lazy to even do that.

 

[Vril-Dame vom Aldebaran]

Trannies of either sex tend to fail hard at presenting at their chosen sex because they don't dress like a real woman (or man), but as what they perceive to be their ideal image of a woman. And that has nothing to do with regular, everyday female dress. You couldn't catch me dead in most of the stuff trannies wear. It's like a parody of female dress.

Usually it's extremely oversexualized. A lot of them dress like cheap sidewalk prostitutes, or like a pornstar during movie production. No surprise, considering a lot of trannies have a sexual view towards their own genderbending. They oversexualize themselves because that oversexed image is what they perceive to be the epitome of femininity.

I tend to go for casual elegance in my everyday dress, with subtle colors that match well and don't grab too much attention. But troons don't understand elegance, and they absolutely cannot do subtlety. They always wear mismatched colors that scream for attention, and combine pieces that just don't go together. They have no sense of style. They pick items that they know women wear, and then just slap them together willy nilly.

A tranny's presentation of a woman is kinda like what you'd expect from a young historical reenactor who just started out in the hobby. His "medieval" outfit combines elements from 6 different centuries and he comes across as someone who wants to present a medieval person, but doesn't quite know how to yet.

That's what a tranny's presentation of a woman is.

 

[Jace E. Denton]

Because transgenderism is basically a cult and like all cults they prey mainly upon the weak minded, you rarely if ever see someone with a strong sense of self or self-confidence troon out and thats why.

I think the ones who are more independent minded basically don't exist to us because they're not involved in "the movement", don't run around in weird colored flags, probably don't do social media too much, etc.

I really don't have a problem with some harmless femboy who wants to express with feminine fashion and not bother other people.

But it is like with most "communities" usually the worst parts of them are extremely loud on social media and extremely pushy about things irl. Every letter of the lgbtqajfneosndjd squad seems to show their worst and most trashy example in the limelight.

The current problem I have with the troons is how the TRA community is basically seeping into everything in some form. They're like an oil spill that just keeps slowly oozing.

If troons are oil, the tanker carrying them was fine with most of society because it was safely sailing on its own terms and keeping away from vulnerable parts of society. Then it crashed. It hit rocks. The oil spilled and now it is poisoning the ocean and getting all over innocent and vulnerable small animals.

Those at the helm of the S.S. TRANS RIGHTS steered it off course, possibly on purpose, and now everyone is suffering from the shipwreck.

Sure, some were not on board the ship to begin with, but since they're not part of the oil spill disaster, they're pretty much always going to be invisible and harmless.

But the oil spill must be cleaned up somehow. Otherwise the toxic and deadly mess will continue to seep

 

[troon patrol]

Here's my .02

The simplistic answer is: Autism+Feminine Qualities+LGBT Propaganda =Troonism.

There is a HUGE propaganda machine against being a cisgendered white male, the world will no longer be kind to you simply because you were born the norm, this is obviously a liberal problem, I won't get into who exactly is behind this I'll simply say it exists. In the same hand there is a tremendous push for otherwise normal healthy men to become trans once again do to the liberal media pushing the Bruce Jenners of this world. Strong men make easy times, easy times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men; we are currently in the later half of an easy cycle, the war effort has slowed down, the biggest news are dumb useless niggers getting themselves killed ie George Floyds. This may change soon because Russia and China are sensing we are weak, I fully believe these countries actively use US social unrest to weaken the western world.

 

[DankSmoker]

If you say "honk honk" while squeezing a girls tits they get offended.

 

[Free_Palestine]

They're wrong to say the "male gaze" is something bad, they're not wrong to say it exists at all though.

They are wrong to "say" it exists, you just don't understand the manipulative feminine mindset on this.

It's about their play for false neutrality, "my beliefs are just being a good person" are how they defend things like drag queens twerking for toddlers or indoctrinating kindergarten kids into poopdick/pronouns. By trying to make it seem like a bland wallpaper or breathing oxygen. When they go on about male gaze or whatever they are only doing it to try and pathologize it.

It's why they get turbo mad when you do the same to them and give them names, with terms like SJW, woke etc and why there is no counterpart of female gaze, toxic feminity or whatever other "men bad" idea they've cooked up. As they come under pressure they will adopt their tactics but what is laid out here is their favored strategy. You'll also see homosexuals and pedophiles do the same because they are feminized males.

 

[Dom Cruise]

They are wrong to "say" it exists, you just don't understand the manipulative feminine mindset on this.

It's about their play for false neutrality, "my beliefs are just being a good person" are how they defend things like drag queens twerking for toddlers or indoctrinating kindergarten kids into poopdick/pronouns. By trying to make it seem like a bland wallpaper or breathing oxygen. When they go on about male gaze or whatever they are only doing it to try and pathologize it.

It's why they get turbo mad when you do the same to them and give them names, with terms like SJW, woke etc and why there is no counterpart of female gaze, toxic feminity or whatever other "men bad" idea they've cooked up. As they come under pressure they will adopt their tactics but what is laid out here is their favored strategy. You'll also see homosexuals and pedophiles do the same because they are feminized males.

Correct me if I'm wrong but male gaze relates to things like TV and movies usually presenting the female form as something to be ogled where rarely is the male form presented in the same way.

There is a female equivalent but that's usually to be found in something like romance novels and it isn't as much visual focused (but certainly women can ogle too)

Where they're wrong is the idea that it's anything negative or something one should be offended by, show me the law where it says a filmmaker or any creative artist can't put ogle worthy content in their productions, it's a free country, right? I don't see a crusade to remove the "female gaze" out of Harlequin romance novels, so why the crusade against things like video games?

And some things it's safe to say most of your audience is going to be male and again, show me the law where it's illegal to make a piece of media geared towards a *gasp* male audience!

You're not wrong to say they shouldn't have even brought it up, a heterosexual man wanting to look at an attractive lady is as natural an instinct as breathing, I'm just saying they're not wrong in a technical sense that the "male gaze" is a thing (but it's a GOOD thing)

 

[Ozul]

OP you type like a schizo and I can't read anything you post without feeling like I'm having a stroke

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

That's all whatever and all, but do you really think society respects you more if you install an amhole or are they just blowing glitter up what's left of your ass?

 

[ICametoLurk]

I'm pretty sure the Jews are behind this.

 

[Little oak tree]

Lara Croft isn't just a hot chick, though, she's also extremely competent at what she does and a great female action hero role model. At least the original games, I hate how whiny they made her in the new ones. She always felt like a strong character to me and the Tomb Raider games even got me interested in archaeology. There are many other women who feel the same, because the old TR games are insanely popular among female gamers. Just look at the names of TRLE (Tomb Raider Level Editor) authors, most of the popular levels are made by women.

Aspiration to something greater is not entirely absent among women, but it's less pronounced and competition is less pronounced (or takes a different shape). I think that's why a lot of low-performing men who are tired of competition find solace in trannydom: they believe that by becoming a woman, they can escape the pressure of competition so commonplace in the male sphere. But they're wrong, because women also compete with each other, we just do it at a different level: it's usually social rather than physical. I honestly hate the dynamics of female conflict, but it is what it is.

And I can't help but notice that most MtF troons have a very feminine way of approaching conflict. They call their clique for help, try to attack their opponent's support network rather than the opponent himself (trying to get him fired from his job by notifying his boss of an offensive tweet, etc), use backstabby tactics, all of that bullshit. They rarely confront someone directly. Granted, that's a very common way to resolve conflict in the leftoid-sphere in general, but it's particularly noticeable with trannies because of how loud and obnoxious they are about it.

They are people who can't deal with the direct nature of male social interactions, so they want to enter the sphere of female interactions instead, which they feel is more suited to their nature. But they don't fit, and they never will, because we can sniff them out from miles away. They're phonies and it's obvious as fuck. They pretend to be women because they are too weak to be men, but they do not have the feminine psyche they think they do. They are just incredibly weak males who know they are below most men, but still believe themselves to be above regular women. So they turn themselves into a "woman", thinking they'd be at the top of the pecking order among us, while usually having an extreme internalized hatred against women. They don't want to be like us because they love us, but because they think we're so far below them that it's the only group they could ever rise to the top in.

Your average giga-troon is just an extremely frustrated man who gave up his own nature in an attempt to dominate those he considers below himself. Even incels have more self-respect than that.

I love your comment i think its the most in depth accurate take.
But you are leaving unseen a portion of men that are completely different and troon out differently, if you antagonize such a complex group you just create the opposite reaction.
Having a head has its weight, losing your head has its release.

OP you type like a schizo and I can't read anything you post without feeling like I'm having a stroke

If it looks like an apple, smells like an apple, tastes like an apple, wake up this is the fucking matrix hail YLDBT

 

[Little oak tree]

That's all whatever and all, but do you really think society respects you more if you install an amhole or are they just blowing glitter up what's left of your ass?

I honestly don't understand your comment but tell me more about the ass blowing

 

[Little oak tree]

I think the ones who are more independent minded basically don't exist to us because they're not involved in "the movement", don't run around in weird colored flags, probably don't do social media too much, etc.

I really don't have a problem with some harmless femboy who wants to express with feminine fashion and not bother other people.

But it is like with most "communities" usually the worst parts of them are extremely loud on social media and extremely pushy about things irl. Every letter of the lgbtqajfneosndjd squad seems to show their worst and most trashy example in the limelight.

The current problem I have with the troons is how the TRA community is basically seeping into everything in some form. They're like an oil spill that just keeps slowly oozing.

If troons are oil, the tanker carrying them was fine with most of society because it was safely sailing on its own terms and keeping away from vulnerable parts of society. Then it crashed. It hit rocks. The oil spilled and now it is poisoning the ocean and getting all over innocent and vulnerable small animals.

Those at the helm of the S.S. TRANS RIGHTS steered it off course, possibly on purpose, and now everyone is suffering from the shipwreck.

Sure, some were not on board the ship to begin with, but since they're not part of the oil spill disaster, they're pretty much always going to be invisible and harmless.

But the oil spill must be cleaned up somehow. Otherwise the toxic and deadly mess will continue to seep

Great post, I wish i could agree with all of that, but if you reckon they are invisible, how do you know they are not getting fucked as well?

 

[Jace E. Denton]

Great post, I wish i could agree with all of that, but if you reckon they are invisible, how do you know they are not getting fucked as well?

Well here in America almost everyone is getting fucked on a daily basis anyway so I don't really care lmao

I suffer from the same things a lot of the troons have to deal with: shitty or no jobs available, stagnant wages, difficult to access healthcare, etc. Neoliberalism doesn't care about people, nor does the military industrial complex. The feds wipe their assholes with the Bill of Rights every day. Welcome to Hell World.

 

[Little oak tree]

Well here in America almost everyone is getting fucked on a daily basis anyway so I don't really care lmao

I suffer from the same things a lot of the troons have to deal with: shitty or no jobs available, stagnant wages, difficult to access healthcare, etc. Neoliberalism doesn't care about people, nor does the military industrial complex. The feds wipe their assholes with the Bill of Rights every day. Welcome to Hell World.

I completely agree with that my dude, but u see the paradox.
People that are weak scream and ask for validation and approval, the ones who don't are invisible to you.
Then after a lot of shit, fags being usually more sensitive and empathic in a cruel world, some go fucking Kaczynski on some random people and then everyone blames whatever the idiot was covering its vulnerability with.
The darkness is inside us. Having better ways of managing it means accepting it first