Culture Why Shang-Chi’s success matters — and why it shouldn’t - Shang-Chi is a victory for representation. Quantifying what that means is complicated.

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It’s been two years since Marvel introduced a new hero on the big screen. The most recent addition was the cosmic powerhouse Captain Marvel, the first woman superhero to get her own Marvel movie. Before Captain Marvel was Black Panther, the first Black superhero to get his own Marvel Studios movie. Because they were the first of their kind, each film came with not only the burden of being good but the added weight of being financially strong and moving Marvel’s sociopolitical needle.

Now, amid a world-changing (and film-delaying) pandemic — and as the MCU moves on from its own world-changing events post-Avengers: Endgame — we have Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. Shang-Chi is the first Asian American superhero to get a Marvel movie of his own, which inevitably means the character faces questions similar to his barrier-breaking predecessors: What does it mean that he’s Asian American? What makes him different from the other superheroes he’ll be linking up with? And will his movie make enough money to convince Marvel to keep him around?

The last question is going to be up to audiences, many of whom in the US will have to go to a movie theater to see Shang-Chi while Covid-19’s highly contagious delta variant surges. (Shang-Chi will play exclusively in theaters for 45 days, then hit Disney+.)

As with its fellow Marvel films that boasted notable “firsts,” Shang-Chi’s theatrical release has become part of a frustrating conversation linking ideas like justice, equality, and representation to box office sales and the value of any given story. The idea is that a massive box office haul for Shang-Chi would mean that Asian American stories are worth investing in, that audiences want to see Asian American faces on the big screen, and that Asian American superheroes are just as valid as their white counterparts.

But when the dust settles, I’m not sure how much a Shang-Chi box office bonanza will move the needle for Asian Americans or be a social justice game changer. To hoist lofty goals upon a movie is unfair, as no movie is going to solve problems like racism or inequality in two hours. Making a lot of money will primarily benefit the studio and lead actors involved; believing that a big payday could simultaneously spur measurable social change is capitalist idealism.

That said, Shang-Chi itself is solid if not spectacular. It answers questions about Shang-Chi’s role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and why he matters, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Laced into this hero’s world-saving mission against a universe-threatening, soul-sucking force of evil is a rich and nimble commentary about identity, masculinity, and assimilation, punctuated by beautiful martial arts sequences. It’s also an homage to the Chinese wuxia genre, and a movie that speaks to the Asian American experience in a compassionate way.

Heroism doesn’t come as naturally to Shang-Chi as it did to Steve Rogers, a.k.a. Captain America, or as unapologetically as it did to Tony Stark, a.k.a. Iron Man. Even though there’s great power rumbling in Shang-Chi’s bones that’s similar to Thor’s, there’s no sense of duty anchoring him to it.

Being a hero is an alien concept to someone who’s spent a lifetime ashamed of who he is, let alone who he’s meant to be.

Within the first 15 minutes of the movie, you can see Shang-Chi’s path taking shape and start to identify what it will take for Shang-Chi to become an Avenger. It’s a path that comes with finding himself, figuring out what’s made him who he is, and then deciding what kind of person, what kind of hero, he wants to be.

Perhaps his hero’s journey is as predictable as any other Marvel movie, and it carries the added weight of being the first superhero film with an Asian American lead. That doesn’t take away from the joy of watching Shang-Chi finally arrive, no matter how tenuous the “representation matters” conversation can feel.

Shang-Chi is a superhero movie powered by themes of assimilation and identity

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The core of Shang-Chi’s story is about a hero honoring the people who came before him. Shawn, an allegedly everyman valet driver in San Francisco, is actually Shang-Chi, the son of immortal warlord Wenwu (Tony Leung) and his majestic wife Jiang Li (Fala Chen). Jiang Li’s death and the grief that followed broke her family — husband, son, and daughter (Meng’er Zhang) — in irreparable ways.

Shang-Chi carries with him the herculean tension of being a superpowered, meticulously trained killing machine who presents himself as an average American underachiever. He does this to protect his best friend Katy (Awkwafina). Having an immortal warlord dad who’s mad that you haven’t come home — Shang-Chi’s father has the legendary 10 rings of power and created an army with the same name — isn’t a good situation to be in, and it’s not good for your friends who could be held hostage and used as bargaining chips.

Shang-Chi’s approach to heroism is markedly different from that of Avengers like Tony Stark or Steve Rogers, who never shy away from acting as the superheroes they are. Titles like Iron Man and Captain America mean something to them — they indicate heroism and legacy. They never turn off being Iron Man or Captain America.

That prospect of never being able to separate yourself from the person you’re meant to be is frightening for someone like Shang-Chi, who wants nothing more than to be able to escape who he really is. Unfortunately for Shang-Chi, due to extenuating circumstances stemming from his father’s thirst for power, maintaining his secret identity is no longer possible.

Simu Liu’s performance as Shang-Chi works well enough, particularly in the comedic beats. But portraying a pensive character with a deep, dark secret (see: Brie Larson’s Captain Marvel) stifles what an actor can do. Harboring that secret, which Shang-Chi does for a lot of the movie, becomes his personality.

What sets Shang-Chi apart is how director Destin Daniel Cretton and his co-writers Dave Callaham and Andrew Lanham take Shang-Chi’s superheroic conundrum and slyly create an allegory about identity, assimilation, and culture.

In Wenwu’s mind, his son accepted a life in America pretending to be average instead of embracing the greatness he’s destined to have. That greatness stems from his family’s possession of the most well-trained and feared crime syndicate across the world. If Wenwu wanted, he could bring the US, and the world, to its knees. The world exists because he allows it.

So in his mind, why would his children eschew all that power? Why act like someone you’re not? Why not search for even more power, instead of contently living with the bare minimum?

At one point, Wenwu asks Shang-Chi’s friend Katy about her real Chinese name. It comes out in mumbles. She can’t even say it. Katy’s struggle with speaking Chinese is a subtle but important part of the movie. She’s not only an outsider because she’s a normal human in a world full of superpowered, magical people, but she’s also an outsider to real-world China (Macau is one of the real-life destinations she and Shang-Chi travel to). It drives home the unique Asian-American experience of not quite fitting into American life and not quite fitting into the culture and land your parents or ancestors are from.

In Wenwu’s eyes, Katy’s loss of her culture proves his point. He believes Katy has forgotten where she comes from and the power her name has. Wenwu thinks she’s assumed an American identity to make the people around her comfortable instead of living with the identity her parents dignified her with.

On the same side of that argument but with a more compassionate worldview is Shang-Chi’s aunt Ying Nan (Michelle Yeoh). She sees how Shang-Chi has rejected his past and forgotten where he comes from. Of course he’d love to forget his father’s bloody past, but in doing so, also forgets the majesty, magic, and power that his mother’s bloodline has given him. Seeing that hurts her heart.

The sting and frustration of Asian American parent disappointment is something I didn’t expect to see represented in a Marvel movie, but here we are. It’s 2021. Perhaps parental disappointment and its many flavors — Asgardian, Wakandan, and now seemingly Asian (via Ta-Lo) and Asian American — is a sign of burgeoning equality.

Cretton’s movie also embraces Chinese American culture in its meticulous fight scenes. Prior to its release, Cretton said he was inspired by the surreal elements of wuxia (a genre of Chinese storytelling that mixes fantasy and martial arts) and the physicality of Jackie Chan’s career, and it’s evident how much effort he has made to honor those influences.

Cretton deliberately slows down the motion in the fury of kicks and punches to allow viewers to find the harmony in the choreography. The opening sequence is tightly orchestrated down to the actors’ fingertips and toes; Cretton’s camera never loses track of or obscures the action while anchoring its actors in the space of a scene. And while there are some rock-’em sock-’em sequences, there are also a few marital arts duels that suspend the rules of physics and slip into something more magical, an element that often appears in wuxia.

Shang-Chi shines in its smaller, more intimate moments — fight scenes included. It shines as a musing on the fantasy of thrilling power and identity placed in the hands of people who rarely ever get it in American movies. What a gleeful combination that is when Shang-Chi finds its groove.

What it means for Shang-Chi to be a box office smash

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Quantifying the importance of joy is an impossible task. A movie’s ability to lift your spirit isn’t a math problem or some kind of currency to trade. Yet, when it comes to certain movies, and often when it comes to superhero movies since they’re the biggest and most visible of the bunch, there’s a tendency to squeeze the way a movie makes you feel into a desire for life-changing results.

The box office discourse surrounding Shang-Chi erupted earlier in August, weeks before the movie’s opening, when Disney CEO Bob Chapek described Shang-Chi‘s release strategy as an “experiment” — Marvel’s first Asian American superhero movie will only be in theaters for 45 days before heading to streaming.

Lead actor Liu took offense at Chapek’s word choice. In a tweet on August 14, Liu rebuked Chapek’s use of “experiment” and took it to mean that Asian American representation, not the streaming strategy, was seen as the trial balloon. Framing this as an offense, Liu said that Asian Americans have historically been underestimated and undervalued and that Shang-Chi, by way of its box office, was an opportunity to change “history.”

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This statement being on Twitter and available for everyone to read meant that it was not only Liu showing his displeasure in Chapek’s words but also an encouragement for fans to buy tickets early (ticket sales for Shang-Chi began two days later on August 16).

Like Captain Marvel or Black Panther before it, or even reaching across the comic book aisle to 2017’s Wonder Woman from DC Comics and Warner Bros., Shang-Chi represents the first of its kind. Like those forerunners, Shang-Chi is burdened with needing to succeed to show that committing to this kind of progress is worth it.

The entire reason we frame cinematic success as some kind of justice is that Hollywood has rarely made room for big-budget, blockbuster fantasies in which Asian, Black, Latin, female, and queer people are the heroes of their own stories.

In the past, refrains like “Black films don’t travel” and “no one wants to watch female superheroes” have been used as ammunition to shoot down projects about Black and women superheroes. When it came to Black Panther and Wonder Woman, the fear was that if these movies were box office clunkers, they would be used by studio executives as justification to never make any more Black superhero movies or women-centric superhero movies. Looming, then, is the unspoken threat that if Shang-Chi doesn’t make money, Chapek and Disney will be reluctant to greenlight more movies where Asian faces aren’t a minority.

The frustrating part isn’t just that Hollywood tends to conflate equality or some net social good with box office sales. It’s also the lingering feeling that the immediate and real winners in this battle to prove that representation matters are Disney’s, Chapek’s, Marvel’s, and ostensibly Liu’s paychecks. Even though they’ve bickered, they’re all working for the same company and they all want Shang-Chi to make tons of money (especially in the global box office superpower that is China).

Success for Shang-Chi primarily means a greater chance of seeing more movies featuring Liu and his character. At best, it’s buying a seat at a table that everyday people aren’t ever going to eat at.

While I do think the movie is great and worth seeing, I’m far too cynical to believe that Shang-Chi’s box office success or Liu’s stardom will make my or any Asian person’s life ostensibly better. It’d be wonderful if that happened. I’d love to believe that after a terrible year of watching grandparents who look like mine get beat up, that something as simple as throwing money at a movie could fix racism.

It’d be easier to accept if everyone was honest enough to acknowledge that Shang-Chi isn’t going to change history. The movie simply exists to provide entertainment and maybe nourishment to viewers who are too young to understand the reality around us all. It’s fantastic at touching upon the Asian American experience, and it’s so buoyant in how it celebrates Asian American culture.

I, like Liu, would love if we could change the world and smash ceilings and persevere against the nasty stuff — racism, prejudice, hopelessness — that keeps us pinned down. If only it were as simple as buying a movie ticket.
 
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I get your point, but didn't they employ a shit ton of Filipinos when they made Platoon or Apocalypse Now?
Yes, but that's part of the movies-as-consumer-product-and-employment reality, not the faux-reality of "movies as part of how society and politics progress" nonsense that everyone these days is all rooting for.

It's like - hamburgers are a real thing, but Ronald McDonald isn't a real person, and you can't really "please" him by doing anything, even eating "his" burgers, because he isn't a real person with their own thoughts.
 
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Responding to above. Putting Parasite in the same sentence with whatever this boring movie disgusts me. I am still reminded that some retard at Hollywood is trying for an Americanized version of it. Good luck capturing the same magic with niggers and troons.

Can't even try original Asian shit like Shoplifters, The Wandering Earth or The Battleship Island. This is why I'm never up to date with most movie news (or any entertainment news for that matter) since its either wokeshit, microtransaction-garbage or just boring stories overall.
The US already made its Parasite. It's called Get Out.
 
I dont get this time, in the action fantasy genre, Asia has always been a force. What stereotypes is it breaking? Its a story about a guy that does kung fu, there is magic and has a destiny to fulfill, its like the most common plot you could have for a movie like this. Do they want to guilt trip asian americans into going to see it? China doesnt care, they get this sort of stuff but better every year.
I mean, I really dont care about the movie, it might even be great, whats interesting is how Disney, an enormous faceless corporation, is marketing its products as if they were the cure for social issues, when all they do is portray fantasies disconected from the real world.
Exactly. If Disney and sycophants really wanted to impress me, make another Harold & Kumar. Or The Foreigner, where Jackie Chan played basically a terrorist who used bombs and guns instead of martial arts and goofy faces. The Expendables 2 and Fast & Furious: Tokyo Drift are more interesting examples of Asian representation than this stuff. Hell, the chubby kid in From Dusk 'Til Dawn!

Representing Asians/Asian Americans as martial artists with mystical backgrounds does nobody any favors in Current Year. Do something more imaginative than that and maybe you'll have my attention.
 
Before Captain Marvel was Black Panther, the first Black superhero to get his own Marvel Studios movie.
You have to love the weasel wording of stuff like this, the first "Marvel Studios" movie, not the first Marvel movie which would have included three Blade films, or even black super heros in general where you'd have to remember Spawn exists and almost single handedly saved the comic industry back in the 1990s

The Expendables 2
You could take it even further back than that, the Asian female side kick started with Rambo 2, the Expendables franchise gets it's name from this film where she tells John Rambo that he isn't expendable.
 
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Quotes are broken, but yeah @Least Concern, the Foreigner was awesome, I cannot recommend it enough. I actually think you're underselling it. It's Jackie Chan as some kind of Taken-tier ex special forces turned shopkeeper fighting against Pierce Brosnan as an IRA mob boss-cum-politician and it's absolutely brutal.
I love how laconic Jackie's performance gets over the course of the movie. He starts out all polite, being all "I just want to know the names of the bombers who killed my daughter" and by the end he's taking out all these IRA terrorists and stealing their radios yelling "NAMES!"
 
Friend got back from the movie said it was actually really fucking good despite the ads and press around it being absolute dogshit. The iron man 3 mandarin makes an appearance too so they didn't forget about him thankfully. His summary more or less was that it was a pretty fun action/martial arts movie with cool worldbuilding shit in it. Unfortunately shang chi never takes off his live action mulan-ass looking shirt.
 
Friend got back from the movie said it was actually really fucking good despite the ads and press around it being absolute dogshit. The iron man 3 mandarin makes an appearance too so they didn't forget about him thankfully. His summary more or less was that it was a pretty fun action/martial arts movie with cool worldbuilding shit in it. Unfortunately shang chi never takes off his live action mulan-ass looking shirt.

Eh, I found it pretty dull. Yes, Ben Kingsley is in it and lightens things up a bit but he's a bit part. A cross-post of my review on it from the Multimedia forum for any who care:

I guess your friend is right that it expands the setting a lot and brings the MCU into a more fully comic book feel, ditching the last shreds of early Iron Man "our world" setting. But I didn't feel that makes the movie itself good just because it sets things up. Each their own. Rotten Tomatoes is ejaculating all over this movie somehow. I can't see why, myself.
 
Lol, "Shang Chi is going to be a watershed for Asian American representation everywhere"

As opposed to what? Yeah, I'm sure that there has been no niche to fill in sequential media/comics/video games/animation for Asian Americans or immigrants abroad. Ryu and Chun Li from Street Fighter? Kyo Kusanagi, Mai Shiranui, and Athena Asamiya from SNK? Goku from Dragon Ball? Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin? Bruce Lee, Ming Na, and Jackie Chan? Gee, I wonder who are they? And what's this anime I've been hearing about?

SLLLLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWPPPPPPOOOOOOOOKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
It drives home the unique Asian-American experience of not quite fitting into American life and not quite fitting into the culture and land your parents or ancestors are from.
they'd fit in better if they chose one over the other.

Or maybe it's okay to embrace most of one and a bit of the other to whatever fits you, rather making it this binary decision of what "society" expects you to be.

Slight PL: I hate this like true scotsman crap where every "Asian-American" must share a single identity of these experiences and feelings of not "fitting in." I fit in into American life just fine while still having the freedom to practice parts of my "ancestral" culture, thank you very much. There are "Asian" culture traits I don't naturally follow, but I don't think gee whiz, I guess I must not be truly Asian-American enough because I don't consoooome boba every day or something, woe is me, I'm too much like the huwyyyypipo oppresssurs. Fuck this "representation" and fuck shoving every Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Filipino/Taiwanese under one umbrella like we're all supposed to pretend to always get along and care about other peoples cultures in "solidarity"
 
being little of this or that is why gooks in america complain about not fitting in, being left out AND cultural appropriation.

the rub is that they whine about not having a place in america because they dont feel fully asian or american but then advocate for opening the floodgates for the next yellow flood.

awkwafina's entire schtick is being the chinese kreayshawn, a chink pretending to be a white girl pretending to be black. she got called out on it, the asian horde
rallied to decry the accusation and now shes the chink postergirl for not doing chink accents.

the chop suey parks in america wouldnt go back to korea and demand that korean culture be less patriarchial and more lgbt friendly. they definitely woulsnt want whites to go to korea and start americanizing everything.

is it really so wrong to say "go back home or admit that our culture is better"? being a little bit of both is like having and eating the cake.

@Pixy its because they are dumb Americans that are incapable of understanding national/regional identity and understand everything through the lenses of race. “Oh those “Japanese” and “Korean” guys both have slanted eyes, they must like be totally the same!” They assume all Asians are basically the same thing just like how they assume Cubans and Argentines are all Latinx whitewashed chicanos.

we only think that because asians wanted that political power and broadcasted "all asians are the same" with their lunar new year events at school and shit. it also doesnt help that chinese korean and japanese food are the same with different names. i mean the chinese gave korea noodles and japan gave korean kimchi.
they went to bat hard for "asian american" and are mad its stuck in an era where the individual races have enough people to make their own political interest groups.

but im old.
 
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Lol, "Shang Chi is going to be a watershed for Asian American representation everywhere"

As opposed to what? Yeah, I'm sure that there has been no niche to fill in sequential media/comics/video games/animation for Asian Americans or immigrants abroad. Ryu and Chun Li from Street Fighter? Kyo Kusanagi, Mai Shiranui, and Athena Asamiya from SNK? Goku from Dragon Ball? Kenshin Himura from Rurouni Kenshin? Bruce Lee, Ming Na, and Jackie Chan? Gee, I wonder who are they? And what's this anime I've been hearing about?

SLLLLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWPPPPPPOOOOOOOOKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEE
It's like the entirety of 1988 - 1995 has been memory holed, a time when little Johnny, when asked by the school teacher what he wanted to be growing up could've realistically responded "Ninja" , what with all the stuff on TV....
 
uncomfortable truth: Shang-Chi gave me COVID-19, ban all wet markets
 
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It's like the entirety of 1988 - 1995 has been memory holed, a time when little Johnny, when asked by the school teacher what he wanted to be growing up could've realistically responded "Ninja" , what with all the stuff on TV....
I'd say that kinda went on well into the 2000s to a degree, especially with the whole explosion of naruto and shit like that so they really do not have any excuse.
 
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If you're going to name yourself after a brand of bottled water, why not choose something somewhat esteemed and rare like Perrier? Why go for a mundane Pepsi product you can find in every gas station?
 
The user reviews on Rotten Tomatoes sure seem inflated

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RottenTomatoes has a weird scoring system which I don't think is good. In fact, I think it was designed deliberately to be misleading. The total score is merely how many people gave it 3/5 or higher. And because 5 is an odd number and there's a positive bias, people will give an average movie 3 and reserve 2 for movies they actively dislike. A divisive movie that polarises people will score lower than a mediocre movie that doesn't provoke extremes. RottenTomatoes doesn't rate quality, it rates proximity to the centre of the bell curve.

@HARDCORE SYNDROME

I feel the world has gone mad with identity politics. What you describe is how things used to be - that race wasn't culture and that the whole idea was that regardless of your ancestry if you fitted in the culture you should be accepted. And that included bringing with you interesting bits of the culture of your ancestors. Food, ideas, art - whatever. Let it merge with the new culture and enrich it. Now people are indoctrinated to stop that with terms like "cultural appropriation". They'll even turn on you for not being what their idea of "your" culture is supposed to be.

Honestly, having watched this movie I didn't see anything particularly "Chinese" about the lead. He speaks Mandarin but in every way I could see he is culturally American. He is respectful to a grandparent which is the only non-Western thing about him I saw. Awkwardfemale's character was just as much or even more American. Her mother does berate her for not having a proper job (both main characters are parking valets) which I think is Hollywood's idea of showing an "Asian" (hate that word for its broadness) background. But frankly, what mother wouldn't berate a 32 year old women still living at home, coming home drunk at 4am and working part time as a parking valet?

Why go for a mundane Pepsi product you can find in every gas station?

Self-awareness?
 
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