Why Trump?

[SpergioLeonne]

Back in 2016, I didn’t give a shit. I wanted Jeb! humiliated, Hillary was not an option, so I tempered whatever optimism I had with skepticism.

Then Trump was actually the president, and regardless of the amount of his campaign promises he managed to fulfill, you can’t even compare it to the cyclical bullshit we’d become accustomed to. At least he tried, his administration didn’t hate the country it lead, and there was some prosperity.

I don’t even know what a democrat I’d take seriously would look like.. maybe RFK II if he loved guns and shrinking the federal bureaucracy?

But I digress. The answer to “why Trump?” is that even other republicans would be a dice roll. They could SAY things that sounded ok, but over the course of my life I’ve learned that the Bush dynasty is what to expect from most political insider republicans, and if an outsider won, they’d face the same obstacles Trump did or cuck out

 

[DiggieSmalls]

He fixed the economy, and he's a absolute memelord that caused the creation of TDS.

I'm definitely in it for the memes.

 

[JosephStalin]

He's always put America and Americans first. Had no problem telling NATO to ante up. Did a lot for peace in the Middle East. Did NOT weaponize governmental agencies, such as the FBI, against the American people. Did a great deal to start normalizing relations with North Korea, substantially reducing tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I'm definitely in it for the memes.

I do have more serious reasons sure, but I do like how he's funny. He's loud, boisterous, eats McDonald's, everything a stuffy rich faggot that's held his position for 40 years isn't. That's who I want, because he actually feels American.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

While I don't agree with his Israel policy, I do agree with his killing Selma policy

What's killing Selma?

I do have more serious reasons sure, but I do like how he's funny. He's loud, boisterous, eats McDonald's, everything a stuffy rich faggot that's held his position for 40 years isn't. That's who I want, because he actually feels American.

What's your serious reasons?

 

[WelperHelper99]

What's your serious reasons?

The economy for one. Things were cheap and GOOD jobs were everywhere. Military, he actually invested in it, especially the Hypersonic missile programs Obama killed. That and he didn't start wars, only cleaned up the mess. Global relationships: we were keeping China in check, Iran bankrupt, and Russia happy. Also North Korea. He actually made progress, and the missile testing stopped.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

first off, let's establish that - at least in regard to the country's worst problems, such as infrastructure, jobs, economy, inflation, crime, homelessness, health care, etc - it doesn't matter who is President, all this shit is on rails. this is just another bullshit culture war flashpoint, in which all movement is illusory, all gains and losses are undone by the inevitable turning of the earth. in that context, Trump is really the only viable candidate because he's not on the troon train. that's about the best we get.

 

[The Ugly One]

The number one reason I voted for Trump - I either vote Republican or stay home, and I absolutely would have stayed home if Jeb had gotten the nom - is he was completely uninterested in war with Syria. I am absolute, 100% done with any warmongering politician who wants to spill American blood, burn American dollars, and blow up American machinery for some dumb bullshit that doesn't affect me. No more pointless wars, no more color revolutions, none of it. Remember in 2016, everyone fucking flipped out that Trump said American foreign policy should be based on America's interests and said that was "fascism."

Number two reason is the GOP needs to be purged. The party went mask off in 2016 and revealed that its leadership hates and resents its own voters almost as much as the Democrats us. The worst consequence of the 2020 steal is that a second Trump term would have accelerated and completed the necessary cleaning house of the GOP.

Number three is that the DOD, CIA, and FBI have metastasized to become the enemies of the people, and only Trump is going to even begin to try and clean house. The FBI fabricating evidence to frame Trump as a Russian spy should horrify every American, but libs clap and cheer like brain-dead seals. "The FBI framed an innocent man for treason, and here's why that's a good thing." To every liberal who supported the gayest of glowops in American history, I say from the bottom of my heart, with tears in my eyes, begging you to do the right thing and just kill yourself.

Number four is that open borders are just plain evil. The Mexican cartels have become richer and more powerful than ever. All new jobs since the COVID crash have gone to foreigners. Cities are becoming crime-ridden shitholes. The liberal immigration agenda, which is to actively destroy America by flooding it with a criminal underclass that can't even economically support itself, is fucking evil, and you only have to listen to liberals talk for a little bit to see that it's a revenge fantasy for the sins of America.

Americans owe Guatemalans and Venezuelans and Somalis nothing. America's a nice country because Americans made it nice, and no, the entire fucking population of Costa Rica is not entitled to come here and piss all over it, any more than negroes have a God-given right to take a dump on the sidewalk and burn down the local Target. Americans deserve a government that represents them, not migrant caravans, not military contractors, not Ukrainians, and not Afghani girls' schools. We deserve a government that is of the people, by the people, and for the people, and the fact that liberals call that "fascism" tells you everything you need to know.

 

[Hal]

Because he’s funny, pisses the most insufferable people on the planet off and the odds of him winning are more in his favor this time around compared to 2020 plus stuff was generally better and cheaper when he was in office compared to Biden’s administration which has made almost everything way worse and posts videos of niggers twerking in the White House

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

I’m not voting at all, BUT I think I can speak to the reasons a lot of folks ARE voting for Trump.

The folks I’m talking about aren’t the “Q-Patriot” crowd, the freakshow minority of Trump voters that are stereotypically portrayed as his only voters. I’m talking about the vast majority of his voters. The vast majority of the people who will actually vote for Trump this Nov.

First you must understand that Trump IS the Anti-Establishment candidate. Now, the “Blue Team” has had a lock on this identity for decades and has used it for all its worth but that’s all bullshit. No matter how much propaganda is spammed out there, it’s plainly obvious that the “Blue Team” IS the Establishment. Whats more, all the “leaders” of the “Red Team” are very obviously Establishment Politicians as well. Like in professional sports, the Politicians may play on different teams, in different conferences/leagues but they’re ALL players. They’re ALL members of the Player’s Union.

So, if you’re dissatisfied with the Establishment, and you choose to participate in Elections, what choice do you have? Vote the Establishment Candidate on the “Red Side” over the “Blue Side” or the “Blue Team” candidate over the “Red Team”? It’s all the same thing, and there’s now a large minority of folks in the US that are aware of this. They’ve seen the way things really are, can’t unsee it, and the Establishment HATES them for it.

So, of course, they’re going to vote for Trump, because he at least PRETENDS to not hate their guts. He’s the Anti-Establishment Candidate. The Establishment attacking Trump “6 Ways To Sunday” as Sen. Schumer put it has set this perception of Trump as the Anti-Establishment Candidate in stone. I mean, he ran as Anti-Establishment in ‘16, but he’s still an East Coast billionaire who attended Chelsea Clinton’s wedding at the invitation of Hillary and Bill so it’s not like he could fully claim that mantel back then, but 4 years of obstruction while President and 4 more years of persecution for the crime of not fading away into retirement after 2020 has made it crystal-clear without a shadow of a doubt that the Establishment wants him broken. Trump IS the Anti-Establishment Candidate.

So, with all that said, if a person in the US wants to vote AGAINST the Establishment, they have only one choice available to them. Thats what it boils down to. What 3rd Party candidate is truly Anti-Establishment? RFK Jr? The descendant of a political dynasty with a Senator/Attorney General for a father and Senators and even a US President as uncles?

Not that any of this matters in the end because we saw what 4 years of Trump was like. It’s not like voting him in again is going to change anything in the long run, though it might slow things down. What it all boils down to is this: If you want to poke a stick in the eye of the Establishment the way the Establishment LOVES poking sticks in the eyes of a sizable minority of the citizens they rule over, then Trump’s your man. Simple as.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

He isn't a trotskyite-neocon imperialist OR a marxoid shitlib troon worshipper. Infact, Trump makes these groups seethe and cope, and that is enough for me.

 

[salvuserit]

becuase i am both stupid and evil

 

[Not A Bunny]

Not that any of this matters in the end because we saw what 4 years of Trump was like. It’s not like voting him in again is going to change anything in the long run, though it might slow things down. What it all boils down to is this: If you want to poke a stick in the eye of the Establishment the way the Establishment LOVES poking sticks in the eyes of a sizable minority of the citizens they rule over, then Trump’s your man. Simple as.

We live in a time where, quite frankly, there's more large-scale gaslighting (I know, I know) than you could possibly believe. Every reason under the sun is given for phenomena that most people could explain as simply as possible.

(E.g.: "man-babies" aren't "ruining" popular entertainment; audiences are simply tired of Hollywood telling them what they're supposed to like. Also, most people who didn't duck and cover at the onset of COVID learned very quickly it was a great big nothing-burger in terms of illnesses.)

The reason why people voted for Trump is as simple as Occam's Razor allows. The establishment hates you. The establishment hates Trump. The only person who can reasonably fight the establishment (if such a hope existed, and for me, it doesn't) is a guy that the establishment hates just as much as it hates the rest of us.

Enemy of my enemy and all that. The ridiculous hysteria and pseudo-intellectualizing and pathologizing surrounding Trump is just noise to make people sound smarter than they actually are.

The more that they've painted him as authoritarian dictator, the more unhinged they look. And really, are those the people you want in power?

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

And really, are those the people you want in power?

I just want to grill.

 

[frozen_runner]

Why Trump? Especially, why Trump over any other Republican?

My broadest concern is always freedom. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression especially because those lead to truth. I have always leaned to the right, but I dislike and distrust the Republican party. The Iraq War will do that to you.

I have watched, since slightly before the first Obama administration, the Democrats abandon every single respectable principle they claimed to have. I could tell by the way they were behaving during the run up to the 2008 election that they were truly mindless in their adoration of Black Jesus, and they proved that perception correct in the worst ways possible. I could not have imagined how little they would prove to care about reality or truth or civil liberties, and they've only gotten worse since then.

And I fucking loathe the political class in general. This country is ours, and they serve us at our consent. They have decided to pretend that isn't true, and it makes me so sick I can't express it with words.

I couldn't vote for Trump in 2016 because all I could see were his flaws. I never hated him as a candidate, but his deference to and reverence towards the military brass and glowie agencies was too off-putting, and he was too interventionist in economic terms for my liking. However, I was sickened by the ways the media and TPTB treated him, and I was glad he won.

My hate for the establishment has only grown since then. The furthest left parts of the Democrat voting base are essentially mindless death cultist teenage girls. The party is literally beyond saving and needs to be so throughly defeated that they remake themselves into something closer to reality. (Leftist economic policies will always be retarded, but there was a time when they were the voice of sanity in some social arenas. No longer.) Neocons are scum of the Earth and have been proven not just to be wrong but to be evil, to have no concern for the damage and destruction they cause in their endless quest to enrich and empower themselves. And neocons are most of the Republican party, even now. The Uniparty is a real thing.

Trump is not a perfect candidate. But he is a true outsider (look at the way he's been treated since he decided to run if you doubt it), if only relatively speaking. He's the only American politician who would speak openly about border issues and who would do anything about it, however insufficient. He's the only politician who badmouths the WHO and NATO and other corrupt outfits, and they deserve it. Instead of doing the "every country is equally lovely" bullshit, he calls shithole countries what they are. He's the only politician who has come within spitting distance of pardoning Julian Assange, and I hope he will do it in his second term. And he insults our political class regularly, which is less than they deserve. Nobody else right-of-center inspires any hope they will do anything similar. They just want to go back to the 90s and talk about Jesus or something.

Most of all, Trump has baited the left into revealing just how unprincipled and rotten to the core they are. I will forever be grateful for that. I hope he wins reelection and some of the BDP freakshow wailers actually kill themselves.

 

[cultural_marks]

Whatever anti-establishment potential Trump had in 2015 is long lost. At this moment this is just Heritage Foundation agenda. They are going to "gut the deep state" which in practice means 10s maybe 100s of thousands of good federal jobs will become political spoils. Democrats are sure to use that too when it's their turn. Massive corruption and cronyism Third World style.
You are not going to get much aside from fewer low-skill immigrants and culture war stuff.
And of course owning the libs.
But the foreign policy will be radical. It will boil down to isolationism, more money to the Jewish state, no money for Ukraine, and Nato can go fuck itself. It will make America's position weaker globally, and accelerate the trends associated with the descent into becoming a majority people of color quasi Third World country by the 2nd half of the century.
But we do have the high tech --for now. So that's good. Perhaps it will end up more a cyber punk dystopia than, say, a massive utterly huge Guatemala.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

he makes the people who I would consider metaphysical evil manifested in various human suits very angry.

also Trump is funny.

 

[Jerry's Magic Ring]

The whole point of voting for Trump is to buy time.

I don’t see Trump being able to reform the Republican Party. While a few, scant positive changes have been made with his presence, it’s not sufficient enough to avoid the RINOs claiming everything back once he is gone. His problem is that he does not have the discipline to root out bad actors within his party, let alone the Washington system. You needs decades of authoritarian leadership from a much younger guy that is a lot more ideologically-motivated than a elderly liberal New York billionaire who sees there’s a rot but severely underestimated the extent of it.

What he does do is expose the corruption. Thanks to him, a large minority of the country - people who are politically motivated by preserving their families and culture - now understand that,

- Our government, courts, and corporations hate us and wants us dead
- Big Tech will censor anything on social media they hate
- Allowing and pushing for illegal immigration is outright evil
- Our elections can no longer be trusted
- There truly is a uniparty that masquerade as two controlled opposition
- You aren’t getting jobs back under establishment politicians
- Wars to “spread democracy” are fucking pointless
- FBI, CIA, and other alphabet agencies will lie in order to slander their political opponents while covering up for people who buy them off

Trump’s legacy will be that he risked it all to try to save a country deep in the rot of wokeism. Regardless of if he wins in 2024 or not, he will inspire people to try to find a more radical solution. History won’t be able to ignore Trump no matter how much they slander him. This is why they are looking to steal 2024 from him. A second Trump term would expose even deeper roots of corruption that place further mistrust in our horror show of our ruling class.

If Americans ever come up with an actual solution to deal with our elites, it will be indirectly because people will remember what our government, judges, and corporations did to Trump. Think of it as planting a seed.

 

[JosephStalin]

We need another Reagan. Trump's as close as it comes. Believe he's the best President since Reagan.

The man's said and done a lot I wouldn't say or do, but have no doubt he's always put America and Americans first. Trump says things many, if not most Americans think.

He kept us out of wars and brokered some peace deals in the Middle East. He shamed certain NATO countries into ponying up for their defense, as they were supposed to.

He had no problem telling China to fuck off and/or holding their feet to the fire, as appropriate.

One thing that is underrated and underappreciated, in my opinion, is starting the normalization of relations with North Korea. The Korean Peninsula's the only place on Earth where we can get into a shooting war at any time, from personal experience. Trump saw Kim wanted to be treated as one of the big boys. The meeting at the DMZ and the first summit gave Kim what he wanted. Tensions cooled down markedly after that first summit. The second summit in Hanoi didn't work out but each man walked away knowing the other guy was always willing to talk, and things stayed pretty calm after that.

Inflation was negligible. We once again reached energy independence, price of gas kept going down. Economy was going well.

We also got to see just how much 'the system' and the mainstream media truly despise the average American, with all the failed investigations. Will never forget Mueller going to Congress with the deer-in-the-headlights look on his face and basically say their investigation was a total fucking waste.

Now that we've had three-plus years of the worst President, Vice-President, and regime ever, anyone who doesn't vote for Trump is either an idiot, a masochist, or both. We can't stand four more years of the present situation.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

We need another Reagan. Trump's as close as it comes. Believe he's the best President since Reagan.

We need another Andrew Jackson.