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Why women would prefer to be alone in the woods with a bear than a man​

Would you rather find yourself alone in the woods with a bear or a man? This is the question currently dividing social media. Based on the responses online, it looks like most women answering the question say they would choose the bear, a decision that is shocking many men.

The reactions show some men don’t understand women’s experiences. The assertion that women would prefer to encounter a bear is based on evidence about the rate of male violence against women, and on a lifetime of learning to fear and anticipate this violence. This is especially true of sexual violence, something which would not be associated with encountering a bear.

According to the World Health Organization, one in three women – around 736 million globally – will have experienced sexual or physical violence by an intimate partner or sexual violence from a non-partner in their lifetime. This figure has largely remained unchanged over the past decade.

Being attacked by a bear is much less common, with only 664 attacks worldwideover 15 years, and very few fatal attacks. And bears tend to avoid humans, attacking only when provoked or protecting their young.


This is not about generalising or fearing all men. Women know that not all men are dangerous. But women don’t know which men they should fear, only that male violence and male entitlement to women’s bodies is something that they have to be on guard for.

Women are commonly victims of sexualised violence, and men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators (including against other men). There are enough men who have hurt or are capable of hurting women, and women have no way of knowing which ones these are. While much violence against women comes from men they know, the risk of danger from men they don’t know is something that informs their day-to-day lives.

For example, research shows that women change their behaviour – making certain decisions about the routes they take or what they wear – to avoid harassment or abuse from men in public. Scholars such as Fiona Vera-Gray refer to this as safety work.

Women’s view of men is also coloured by their non-violent actions that harm women. Clearly, bears also do not contribute to or uphold systemic sexism and misogyny, but most men do.

My research on misogynistic online groups has explored how men engage in acts against women that reinforce gender inequality.

Writer Emma Pitman has described this phenomenon using the analogy of a human pyramid. The choices of some men to stay silent about abuse is the base of the pyramid, holding up other men who engage in misogynistic jokes or commit violence.

The overall effect, whether deliberate or via ignorance or indifference, is to normalise and support the actions of male sexual predators and domestic abuse perpetrators.

This culture props up the men who are silent bystanders, observing sexism, harassment or abuse but doing nothing, the men who make or laugh along with the sexist or rape jokes, those who are rape apologists and blame women for their sexual victimisation, those who become aggressive when women turn them down, those who stalk, control and abuse women, and those who are rapists, sexual harassers and murderers. This continuum of misogyny is women’s everyday reality – and at no point do bears feature.

Men on the defensive​

Men are generally surprised, defensive even, when the subject of male violence against women is discussed. This is often where people invoke the response “not all men”.

When women took to social media to express their anger and devastation following the murder of Sarah Everard by a police officer in 2021, #NotAllMen trended online. Meanwhile, police advised womennot to walk alone at night, placing the burden of avoiding violence on women.

This conversation is about privilege, and not recognising it. Many men are able to move through their daily lives not being worried that they are going to be attacked or raped, can walk alone late at night without taking any safety precautions or even not having such thoughts cross their minds, and do not feel their hearts beat faster if they hear footsteps behind them. It may not be all men, but it is all women, who live smaller lives because of the threat of some men’s violence.

These discussions are an opportunity for men to understand women’s genuine fears and to be part of the solution rather than the problem.
 
Because the women who answered like this live such sheltered and safe lives, that encountering a bear in the woods is nothing more than an abstract concept for them.
Encountering a man means getting killed and mega-raped, because that's what media says will happen.

These bitches gonna get raped innawoods by bears.

Yet by changing the question to three or more niggers vs one bear, you introduce an element of absurdity that three or more niggers could find their way into the forest.

National parks and the wilderness in general are white supremacist, there's articles about this all the time, where niggers get upset because they're getting yelled at by rangers for leaving trash and blasting music.

I'm pretty sure if we had 3.5 billion bears on Earth there would be a lot more bear attacks, it's like how there's less shark attacks than cow attacks.

It's not like bears, or sharks for that matter, ever signed treaties with us. It's just apex predators doing apex predator things.
 
The reactions show some men don’t understand women’s experiences.
No. It only shows that these woman are fucking retarded and people are rightfully baffled by such a statement.

I love bears. Adore them. They're beautiful creatures capable of incredible tenderness and awesome savagery. Nobody under any circumstances should ever want to be near a wild bear. If a bear decides that it's in its best interest to kill you (it won't always, but you shouldn't push your luck), you are 99.9% dead.

Absolutely pathetic that this social media faggotry is being reported on at all. Then again, that's to be expected from the journofaggotry of the modern day.
 
One of the funniest parts of this shit for me has been how starkly it has shown the differences between how men and women think. Guys hear the question and immediately start asking for the specifics of the situation. What sort of bear? What is its general disposition?
These are very important questions. That Treadwell guy and his girlfriend were eaten alive because hibernation season was approaching, and an old/sickly bear that couldn't exploit its normal food sources saw a couple humans as an easy snack. This kind of bear is not particularly rare; it's just a regular bear at the end of its life, at a time of year when it needs a lot of calories to make it to the next year. More common are female bears with cubs attacking humans for getting too close. And they can be real attacks, not bluff charges. Again, this kind of bear is not rare, it's a normal phase of a female bear's life.

If the bear were well-fed, didn't have any cubs, and didn't have a deranged personality, I guess I wouldn't mind being in the woods with a bear. Especially a black bear, you can yell at those and wave your arms and they will run away or hide in a tree. But if we can make favorable assumptions about the bear, we should make favorable assumptions about the man, too. "Would you rather be stuck in the woods with a well-fed, cubless, happy bear, or a well-fed, childless, gay man?" Come to think of it, those are both bears. 🐻🏳️‍🌈
 
To be fair with modern women, men would rather try and make friends with the bear.

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And there has been documented cases of men succeeding in taming bears. Hell, if it came down to it, even try and domesticate the overgrown omnivores if men had the resources and dedication. Pic related is Wojtek.
 
The only bear found in my entire province is black bears. I'll take that over the odds of running into a pajeet or arab in the woods.
 
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Know that this thread will go the way these always do in A&N but for the voices of sanity I heard these figures getting challenged on the eternally complaint BBC in a discussion on Radio 4 both in terms of how the data was presented and the degree to which the WHO overlooked certain areas of the world driving the figures. Anyone got a decent analysis of the underlying data?
Probably some nonsense self reporting about how if you felt violated a week later it was rape.
 
it's wild comparing the reactions on this thread to the prissy nerds on the mint butterfield thread. a dumb 16yo party girl goes off with her gross druggie boyfriend and there's pages of dudes freaking out that a 16yo missing for a few days means... well, what? why is that even remotely a big deal? if you're sane you know she's spend that time getting high with the dude and as soon as they poke their heads up they'll get found, which is in fact exactly what happened. But it's a whole thread of weirdo shutins obviously imagining her brutal rape and murder *because they think men are dangerous.*

I don't think most men OR bears are dangerous based on a long life dealing with both (def fewer bears but it's been some bears here and there) but you people are being disingenous hypocrites here. You know perfectly well that the biggest danger to ANYONE, male OR female, is a human male. And if the question had been "would you rather be in the woods with a bear or a negro" none of you would be making fun.
No. A bear is a much larger danger than any man I've encountered. I've killed 38 men in close combat(zogbot) I haven't killed a bear with my bear hands and would run if at all possible.

This obviously is a woman typing because it sounds disingenuous and retard level cope
 
To be fair with modern women, men would rather try and make friends with the bear.

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And there has been documented cases of men succeeding in taming bears. Hell, if it came down to it, even try and domesticate the overgrown omnivores if men had the resources and dedication. Pic related is Wojtek.
Fun fact: when Wojtek retired to a Scottish zoo, people from his old unit would actually go into his cage to wrestle with him like old times. The bear also understood the Polish language well enough to recognize it when it was spoken.
 
Ugh. These men. They just want to rape me. Rape me with their eyes and their penises. Their lustful, hungry eyes, and their huge hard cocks. Multiple men, all raping me, one after the other; taking turns to rape my hot wet pussy and my glistening mouth. And my tightly stretched asshole. Pumping hot load after hot load into my fertile, quivering body. Making me swallow their cum. Calling me slut, and worthless whore, and all kinds of vile, degrading names. Over, and over again, they force themselves upon me - into me - my resistance futile. Driven wild with desire for me, their forbidden urges insatiable, their criminal lust unquenchable. The bastards.
 
This "I'm less scared of bears than men" microtrend is the perfect example of modern women performatively playacting in public for attention.

There is one correct male response to this: laugh and ignore it, because it's just childish bullshit. It's no different than kids running around and saying they're superheroes.
 
These are very important questions. That Treadwell guy and his girlfriend were eaten alive because hibernation season was approaching, and an old/sickly bear that couldn't exploit its normal food sources saw a couple humans as an easy snack. This kind of bear is not particularly rare; it's just a regular bear at the end of its life, at a time of year when it needs a lot of calories to make it to the next year. More common are female bears with cubs attacking humans for getting too close. And they can be real attacks, not bluff charges. Again, this kind of bear is not rare, it's a normal phase of a female bear's life.

If the bear were well-fed, didn't have any cubs, and didn't have a deranged personality, I guess I wouldn't mind being in the woods with a bear. Especially a black bear, you can yell at those and wave your arms and they will run away or hide in a tree. But if we can make favorable assumptions about the bear, we should make favorable assumptions about the man, too. "Would you rather be stuck in the woods with a well-fed, cubless, happy bear, or a well-fed, childless, gay man?" Come to think of it, those are both bears. 🐻🏳️‍🌈
Oh, I very much agree those are very valid and reasonable questions to ask about the situation. But it just reminds me of the discussions that have been had about people with low IQ. Most men, when given even a ridiculous scenario, immediately jump to logically considering the situation and the options available to him. Many will go ‘that’s fucking stupid’… but then find themselves workshopping the concept, taking it from different angles.

… women, meanwhile, have nearly universal experience having been scared of a least one guy in their lives. And it has been repeatedly pushed how valid those feelings are, to the point that even less serious examples have gotten worse and more scary over time. So they have this scary image in their heads… and then a bear. These same women have never seen a bear in its native habitats, but they think bears are cute, and some TikTokers have explained before that a ton of wild animals are actually misunderstood and harmless, so long as you aren’t aggressive. And these women would NEVER be aggressive with a bear! When left with those two thoughts, it is hardly surprising women overwhelmingly picked bears… it just is equally depressing too, because of the divide of thought it shows.
 
They've also started labeling gay men as misogynistic.

"Straight men are misogynistic because all they want to do is fuck us"

"Gay men are misogynistic because the hate us so much they don't even want to fuck us "
It's sort of like how behind the scenes of the Barbie movie when Greta Gerwig was filming the initial rollerblading scene and between shoots, people were going to up to Ryan Gosling and giving him compliments, but nobody was approaching Margot Robbie, but you know if someone did, Gerwig and Robbie would have gone full-blown cunt like Brie Larson and the TSA guy that asked her out and put him on blast.

She either doesn't see or doesn't care the irony in the fact that in the movie, one guy brazenly walked up to Barbie and smacked her in the ass in broad daylight with her huge, ripped male companion right next to her, and some god damn how, only the woman of the two has the wherewithal to throw a punch in retaliation, despite neither of the two seeming to have any basis of understanding violence (putting aside the "undertone of violence" supposedly with which she is being stared at). And yet somehow, in the real world, no one had the audacity to walk up to Margot Robbie and even say a few words to her, nor were there any noted stares with an "undertone of violence", because that detail might not have been important.

All this to say: women have feelings, okay? And men should shut up and listen to them.

But the modern first-world woman lets her feelings get in the way of absolute common sense and nuance to the point of mental gymnastics to suit her feelings given the context.

A bear is less likely to hurt you than a man? Of course, and you're a fragile man who would probably hurt a woman if you think otherwise. But damn it if a man should be physically assaulting a woman, and any man should step in and risk himself to save her.

This was never about bears versus men, and identity politics is never about the surface issue. It's always about how you can manipulate people, and failing that, victimizing yourself to get others to mob up on the target you wish to bully. This instance was always about women being able to pick on men, and setting a Kafkatrap when they object to being put upon like that.
 
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