Why would God create a world that is not perfect?

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Why would an omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent God, capable of creating anything and everything in its most ideal form, choose to create a world that is not perfect? when such a world could have been free from pain, moral failures, and limitations? What could be the reasoning or purpose behind creating a universe in which free will, hardship, and moral ambiguity exist, rather than one where only goodness, harmony, and perfection reign? Could imperfection serve a deeper, unknown purpose in God's plan for creation? How do concepts like free will, personal growth, and the nature of existence tie into the notion of a world that is intentionally designed with both beauty and flaws? What insights can be gained from exploring the contrast between divine omnipotence and the reality of an imperfect world? Could there be a hidden order or perfection in what seems to us to be chaotic and flawed?
 
How do concepts like free will, personal growth, and the nature of existence tie into the notion of a world that is intentionally designed with both beauty and flaws?
In essence you need a non perfect world for these to exist. How do you have free will if not for the ability to make the "wrong" choice and suffer the consequences? Growth without failures on your journey? Existing in a world where everything is handed to you rather than forging your own destiny? I've always thought the benevolence of a God could be compared to a parent, where they ideally set you up with the tools to succeed on your own eventually.

Human's are an adaptable lot and can acclimate to just about any circumstances. Our ability to carry on through it all and find or forge small beauties in a realm of chaos is our purpose. I often think of a picture from Gaza 8 years ago where a man is giving his daughters a bath essentially in the ruins of homes. There is something about the picture that reminds me of the resilience of the human spirit. mfPBRMu.jpeg
 
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If free will is to be taken as an "innate good," then it must exist in a perfect world.
Free will necessitates the capacity to do evil and/or be mistaken. So asking God to create a world with free will where people choose only to do good is like asking him to create a rock he cannot lift. The request itself is nonsense.
 
there's really no point in creating a 'perfect' world, God is already perfect and such a creation would be pointless and impossible, as this world would need to be God in order to be perfect, the Creator would not create shit, thus null n' voiding Himself - our world is perhaps imperfect, but only in the context of becoming perfect - coming closer and closer to New Jerusalem, of free willed beings attaining divinity, the Creation coming back to its Creator so to speak; at least thats how i understand it and im no expert
 
my cat explained all of this to me already. You might not like it, but this is the answer to the final question.

Our universe is not infinite. It is just one of an uncountably large, but also not infinite, amount of other universes; some almost identical to ours right down to the atom, others more wildly different than you can imagine. Their purpose was to compute an equation, of sorts - acting as highly specific entropy-driven nondeterministic closed systems wherein there is no possibility of actual infinity. The best way to explain this would be to conjecture that there can be first only actual nothing, and then actual infinity. The two concepts exist as direct but fundamentally asymmetrical consequences of one another. Remember that we are referencing a nothing that can't even be "nothing", or zero, because those are both countable. True Nothing is Fundamental ∅. Because "things" must exist in an infinite set, primordial infinity holds a degree of intrinsic capacity over primordial nothingness. Therefore it is capable of performing [an infinite amount of] extremely basic operations, eventually leading to the creation of all you see before you in entropy.

Only one deterministic truth can be proven through observation in mathematical equilibrium. Nothingness is truth. To be infinite is painful untruth. Primordial nothing precedes primordial something and so it cannot be superseded as a fundamental meta-law. Because there is no nondeterminism or end to true infinity, and the finite cannot be expressed or observed within or by true infinity, the entropic systems of which we are a part were necessitated into being as the only possible way to prove through observation that there was a limit for infinity somewhere within the finite beyond the countable set; the perfect axiom which allows it to become unmade, to return equilibrium point to true Nothing. And there is. The mathematical equation is not currently known, but in the unlikely event that it was ever discovered by an intelligence within the vast universal array it would be the most devastating piece of knowledge ever held by a thinking mind.

The only thing that remains outside of entropy is Fundamental ∅. From our perspective, this event happened long ago...there is no such thing as "time" to the infinite. If you were wondering if you can observe evidence of any of this, you actually can. The parameters of our systems can be broken. You can see this happen when the limits of its gravity are exceeded enough to cause a sort of tearing effect in the fabric which contains us: a black hole forms. Infinity "peeks" in. By the time our speed of light eventually brings observable equilibrium Earth-local, we will begin to observe our black holes behaving...quite a bit differently.

My cat explained all this to me and it proves that everything that we can observe is just a sort of computational metalogic error.

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The problem is that returning to True Nothing is no big deal for a fundamental meta-law, but for a nondeterministic consciousness it is much different. This has something to do with causality laws ceasing to exist within equilibrium, among other things. The experience of death and terminal nonlocality for a conscious mind is apparently pretty bad. My cat says that in all of the universes with spoken or written language, there has never been a word to describe how bad it is.
 
How do you know your human, individual conception of perfect is equal or superior to God's? Truly how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
 
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Because the next life is a perfect world, and god wants you to experience how shit it can be; so when you get there you don't shit it all up by being a faggot.
 
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What I read here a lot are things like "free will necessitates X" or "we need to be able to make choices that cause wrong to Y"

All of these principles are correct, but the principles itself need not exist if a being is truely omnipotent and thus could transcend the specific logic we impose in this manner.
Every light casts a shadow. Sure. Unless you are truely omnipotent, in which case it does not have to.

Thus either the being maliciously imposes these, or it has a reason known only to itself that good people have horrible things happen to them, or it is simply not omnipotent and had to have all these shades of morality or it simply does not care.
 
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Could there be a hidden order or perfection in what seems to us to be chaotic and flawed?
Genuinely curious how a world where child sexual abuse exists, and could have been created in a manner where this would not be possible, could be perfect. If "Free will did it", this is a world where God nonetheless previously used to intervene and intercede on a regular basis right up until the point photography became widely available, so free will to act apparently doesn't matter too much.

I'll wait.
 
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