Will segregation become a thing again in the future?

[Yovevires]

What the far left and far right don't want to believe is that they have already lost their powergrab in history. Like starving dying wolves they wait for the bloated diseased body of democracy to finally keel over and die while they sweep in for the kill and set up their own "utopias". What they don't realize is that democracy (at least in the United States) won't die unless a catastrophic event on a scale mankind has never seen before happens to the nation. Then they will inherit nothing but ruins that are almost worthless. The wolves may finally eat their meal, but it won't be enough to sustain them.

They lost their battle in the mid-late 20th century. They might be able to set up societies across the world that will inevitably fall, but they will never take control of the USA. If people honestly believe such 1984 hellholes are what's best for them then by all means move somewhere else and make it.

I do not believe nationwide segregation will come back.



I would say that you are wrong. You might have had a case while Civil Rights was in full swing (which had way worse ethnic tensions than what we have now) but dividing the United States into ethnostates based on the majority population living there wouldn't work and is currently impossible for multiple reasons.

1. Who would accept it? Imagine living in your town with your own house for decades just for some jackboot to tell you "yeah I need you to move across the entire country. Why? Oh because some people don't like their black neighbors, and so we assume you don't too." If someone wouldn't let the government take their guns why the hell would they let them take their home?
The government needs to provide me with TRIPLE of what my house is worth and assure me that I could find a similar paying job to even consider moving on their behalf. You can take my home from my cold dead hands. I am sure many people feel the same way too.

2.Blacks are only the majority in a handful of US cities and counties. Yet shoving all of them across the country into those same cities or into the "multicultural" nation would not be a very good idea.
Not only would you be displacing people hundreds of miles, they would also have to restart their entire lives in a place that may not even be able to support them. The same goes for any other non-white race, or even white people that do live as a minority in certain areas.

3.A dictatorship is not what even half of the American people want. The government needs power, but to put it all into the hands of one man that will eventually die will not fix anything longer than the next 20-80 years depending on how long he lives. It is also extremely anti-American.
The American people are used to a myriad of freedoms that have been apart of this nation since it's foundation, and it would be really unpleasant for the person that strips them away

4. The multicultural nation would be the largest and most powerful one. Contrary to what people on the internet think most human beings do not actively dislike their fellow man regardless of race. Sure some people might not tolerate other races as well as their own, but that doesn't mean they can't STAND to be near them.

We will solve the ethnic tensions by talking about them in a calm and civil manner. We do not fix it by reeeeeeeeee'ing at white men. We do not fix it by re-segregating society or by building ethnostates. We do not fix it by treating some races with kids gloves and not talking about the elephants in the room. If we can get through a Civil War and Civil Rights without tearing the country apart then we can get through much more.

If someone wants to be around people of only their race they can move to a area where their race makes up 98-99% of the population, not force everyone else around them to do it too.

Except white flight is only a temporary solution since Jews will never leave us whites alone. Ultimately, they will force diversity on us in every single square inch of this country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/us/new-hampshire-white-diversify.html

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

Yes it is, because if it's not forced, it's not promised to happen also it respects people's rights to segergate IF they choose, no one holds a gun making me do something or not do something. Im just as against the law being able to deny me seeing a black person or woman etc. I'd love to see how you can call me an idiot when if indeed the strong arm is the only thing forcing this.

If I own land, I should and do choose whom is welcome on it, whom is not. If I own a company, I can't choose this anymore. That's a fact. I don't think saying people are forced to hire, work for or with people they don't like on a basis of bigotry is a step on freedom.

If a group is so universally disliked, what are they even doing hanging around? Since you aren't a slave, go somewhere you are welcome. If you aren't liked by anyone, perhaps you are the problem.

Private property is backed up by force, and if you are using it in such a way that tangibly restricts the livelihoods of other people, then it is in the interest of civil society to use the government to redress that. Nobody is seriously suggesting that you should open up the doors of your private home to anyone and everyone, but if you are running a business that is open to the public, or conducting your private affairs in a way that affects the public, then it is only fair that you play by a fair set of rules.

A landlord refusing a tenancy to someone based upon the colour of their skin is nothing but a needless transgression against that person, and a contravention of the ethics upon which a free society is based.

Have you seen a high school in a large city? Tell me that's a public good. 50% grad rates at the good ones, crippling debt etc. Yet the good public schools where tax payers thrive and live don't seem to have this.

Granted you've already sunk to insults with out much substance of your debate other than saying nuh uh. And dude what if racism? My retort is so what you said racism isn't allowed in freedom. I suggest you check what that words means.

High schools in inner cities do poorly because better schools act as a brain drain on teachers, and the students are not given adequate support outside the classroom. Poverty and delinquency are intergenerational in America, and this is largely thanks to a lack of government investment in things like youth support, rehabilitation, and urban redevelopment.

Doing what libertarians suggest and pulling the plug on all government investment in these areas would only make the problems much worse.

 

[nonvir_1984]

I think segregation is here. If you have an IQ above room temperature, are white, male and like girls (or a girl who likes boys) and can think in a straight line, then you are doomed to social purgatory. It is idiocracy arrived. This sums it up:
According to the Pentagon’s own numbers, a staggering 71 percent of young Americans are ineligible to join the armed forces, when you subtract out the too-dumb, the too-fat, and the too-criminal. In practical terms, this means that 24 million of the 34 million Americans in the 17-to-24-year-old cohort, the Pentagon’s main recruiting demographic, cannot enlist. At present, there are grave doubts whether the U.S. military can get enough even marginally qualified recruits to maintain current force levels, despite lucrative incentives for recruits on the right-side of the notorious IQ Bell Curve. https://observer.com/2018/08/pentagon-most-americans-are-too-fat-stupid-to-enlist-in-the-military/

 

[ICametoLurk]

SJWs believe in segregation pretty much. But it's in a Progressive coating.

 

[millais]

At my university, the blacks got their own undergrad dormitory building separate from the rest of the student body because they did not feel comfortable with other ethnicities. I always thought it was a bit odd. Also the black grad students had their own off-campus residence hall as well, which housed the university's Africana library collection annex, which I thought was doubly odd because a big chunk of that collection consisted of Afrikaans books or books associated with Afrikaner history and culture in some way.

 

[QI 541]

Yes, but it's going to be socially enforced rather than mandated by law so that makes it ok.

 

[ICametoLurk]

I think segregation is here. If you have an IQ above room temperature, are white, male and like girls (or a girl who likes boys) and can think in a straight line, then you are doomed to social purgatory. It is idiocracy arrived. This sums it up:
According to the Pentagon’s own numbers, a staggering 71 percent of young Americans are ineligible to join the armed forces, when you subtract out the too-dumb, the too-fat, and the too-criminal. In practical terms, this means that 24 million of the 34 million Americans in the 17-to-24-year-old cohort, the Pentagon’s main recruiting demographic, cannot enlist. At present, there are grave doubts whether the U.S. military can get enough even marginally qualified recruits to maintain current force levels, despite lucrative incentives for recruits on the right-side of the notorious IQ Bell Curve. https://observer.com/2018/08/pentagon-most-americans-are-too-fat-stupid-to-enlist-in-the-military/

Easy. Have the draft and sterilize all the unfit. When you do a draft you only pick the best because you have the entire nation.

 

[Chexxchunk]

Things can be stable when it's clear who's culturally "in charge" in a given area, For example, when I walk into Chinatown, since I'm not Chinese, I know I'm a cultural outsider, and I am damn well going to be cautious and deferential to the prevailing standards there. The same would be the case if I visited any other community.

The real problem is the impossible and dysfunctional attempt to scramble everyone together and dismantle culture and hierarchy in European areas. If there's no standard, of course there's going to be uncertainty and tension. No one knows how to act or who to defer to. It's insane and stupid. "When in Rome, do as the Romans do," is not a racist or offensive concept, and, in fact, is what makes the world vital and interesting.

 

[Coleslaw]

A segregated society isn't a free one. If you allow private businesses to refuse to serve people based upon their race/ethnicity, then the freedom of those people to go about their day and enjoy a life free of persecution is being infringed upon. People who moan about the strong arm of the government in this instance are idiots. It isn't only the government that can deny you freedom, and the history of racial discrimination at the hands of private businesses and landowners proves this.

Allowing people to act as an obstruction in other people's daily lives is not a victory for freedom. Freedom is the power that each individual has over their own lives, and laws against unnecessary discrimination help to engender that.



I fail to see what is tyrannical about using taxpayer's money to fund things which are clearly in the public interest.

If you refuse to serve people that meet a particular characteristic, you lose the money they might have given you if you chose to serve them. It's suicide from a business standpoint. They don't have to make a law making it illegal to jump off a bridge or to drink poison.

 

[Chexxchunk]

If you refuse to serve people that meet a particular characteristic, you lose the money they might have given you if you chose to serve them. It's suicide from a business standpoint. They don't have to make a law making it illegal to jump off a bridge or to drink poison.

"No matter what anyone says, it's all about the money" is a very comforting idea that we keep telling to ourselves, but what if it's not really true?

 

[RG 448]

Except white flight is only a temporary solution since Jews will never leave us whites alone. Ultimately, they will force diversity on us in every single square inch of this country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/us/new-hampshire-white-diversify.html

I assumed all white people were jewish.