The republican party is far from left wing economics right now but it has shifted closer to that since 2016 will this trend continue or reverse?
Will the republican party continue to shift to more left wing economic views like supporting unions while being socially conservative?
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i hope not. they could certainly do with adopting some economic policies that liberals want. like supporting unions. but they really need to keep leading the charge with deregulation.
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I'll believe the Republican Party is more serious about trying to get union support when I see the legislation to back it up. We're at the stage of the election where politicians promise the world to everyone who might vote for them.
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I hope so,national conservatism with some sensible pro-worker legistlation is the way to go. Like Denmark, which is not a communist utopia.
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That'd be the smartest choice, but they'll just keep shifting left entirely.
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The Republican shift is less deliberate choice by party elders and more due to larger societal shifts as the Democrats abandon the working class to chase identity politics and a wealthier college educated/indoctrinated voter base. Corporations, especially big corporations which were once seen as conservative bastions are now full on libtard and arguably now the principal means which the left wages the culture war. IMO the Republicans have actually been pretty forgiving and slow to abandon a Corporate America which has clearly taken the opposing side long ago. You still have them sponsoring bills that help these megacorps spew out even more woke garbage. Its like beaten wife syndrome. If corporations are so butthurt about Republicans slowly becoming less procorporate maybe they should look on how they've been behaving the past few decades.
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It's my belief that the brand of democratic socialism that Denmark (and Sweden, previously) sports require a rather homogenous population and intact culture in order to be successfully implemented. The United States of America is far too large and diverse for this trust in the welfare state to work, for better or worse. It is a federation of very diverse states, after all.
I believe USA would do best to further their historical ties to actual classical liberalism, but perhaps with somewhat less laissez-faire economics.
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Didn't Unions fuck them over hard in 2020? I remember that a lot of energy workers Unions voted Biden and had a surprise pikachu face the moment he banned their biggest project.
The only thing the USA needs is taxes on imports, literally every time the government tried to mess with the economy it resulted in decades spanning catastrophes.
The only thing the USA needs is taxes on imports, literally every time the government tried to mess with the economy it resulted in decades spanning catastrophes.
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It would require to teach American patriotism (aka culture) and send all race hustlers/DIE instructors to hell/to get a job and illegals back, yes, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
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Good man! <3
The unfortunate reality is that democratic socialism seems to invite the eroding, degenerate powers that ultimately dismantles it, just like most forms of liberalism ultimately seems to morph into the "anything-goes"-flavor of liberalism that has come to be the norm. As a swede who has seen my country being invaded by niggercattle during the last couple of decades, with them being invited by the socialists in power who promises them welfare for merely existing in the country, clogging up all the physical and administrative infrastructure that was built by swedes for swedes, I can safely say that democratic socialism is, at best, a very fragile ideology.
There's a deep sense of apathy over here, since even the most ignorant of normies have noticed what is transpiring. Even local celebrities which sway to the political left have written articles and even books over missing the old Sweden and how society now feels mostly alien to them (they mostly just bitch though, and never address why it is their own politics which led to all of this). No wonder, with actual cities having been overrun by niggers en masse, making ethnic swedes very much a minority in these cities (London springs to mind). We all know were this is heading.
The worst part is that this is all self-inflicted. I almost get blood-shot eyes and froth at my mouth when some fucking bleeding heart leftie complains over the situation, or even suggest that they couldn't have known, and "didn't see it coming". Even worse is when they suggest that they never had any choice in their political affiliation. After all, if they voted against the political powers that enabled this, which they admit to now dislike (not hate, mind you, because that would be discriminatory) because it has come to affect them personally, they would have had to side with the totally fascist and super-nazi political right, which would of course be morally impossible. I saw an interview with some french boomer who espoused this mindset during the recent election.
The argument, then, is that the current situation is actually because of the conservative powers in society. It's actually our fault that things are the way they are. After all, we "forced" the political left into acting the way they did by merely existing.
These fuckers are the bane of everything good in the world.
USA is curious since it has been a collection of rather varying demographics and belief systems since basically its inception, yet it has prospered and eventually even managed to become the world's de facto superpower.
There's a plethora of reasons for why this is, of course, but one of the main unifying factors that made this possible has been noted by historians to have been Christianity, by and large.
I'm agnostic, and I don't cherish the notion of being told by some moral busybodies on how to live a virtuous life, but seeing what the world has become, I'd welcome a full-blown Crusade on the degeneracy of the cultural marxists at this point.
Thank you for coming to my TED-talk.
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@Felis Meanis
Have you read "Dominion"? Great read on why Christianity made the modern world.
I am looking forward to finally get rid of marxism. The end point will be, when we reach fallout levels of deprivation. No one will give a fuck about muh gender-affirming pronouns. I guess the Muslim "youth" will turn into raiders (they already are, de facto) and some Brotherhood of Steel (Crusaders) will have to take on the job of rebuilding civilization.
Sorry for my nerd-sperging.
Quote; These fuckers are the bane of everything good in the world. Lefties complaining about the results of their idiocy. Classic.
Quote: , making ethnic swedes very much a minority in these cities. Ok, let's recall the MENAPT study. How the fuck is infrastructure supposed to run in the future, see Empire of Dust? In the US.... May I direct you towards a book called:
Biosocial Theories of Crime
By Kevin M. Beaver, Anthony Walsh? It says, literally: Without the black crime rate, we would have crime rates comparable to European countries or Canada.Makes me sooo angry. Did you know that our new religious holiday, Juneteenth, originated in my state, in Texas? Union forces had to pay an extra visit, after the end of the civil war, to free the slaves. Who had been brought in because rich white capitalists had refused to just hire poor whites to pick cotton, thus depriving these families of the opportunity to carve out a better future for their kids (through gradual wealth accumulation). this is one of the reasons we are poorer down here in the South than in the North (other reasons include the lack of economical diversification and reliance on i.e "King Cotton" ). Look at cities like Birmingham, Atlanta, Memphis, states like Mississippi. We are being fucked until this very day for the stupid (and inhumane) idea of slavery. Did you know that rich people who owned several slaves did not have to go to war during the Civil War? Poor whites (some of my ancestors included) had to go. And for what? So that the whole internet can enjoy videos of blacks beating each other up in some shaddy Atlanta wafflehouse? Worth it /sarcasm.
TL;DL: Please do your part to keep this from happening. I think Sweden can still be saved. Shut the borders and force everyone to assimilate. Those who don't want to should be made to fell miserable enough to gtfo.
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I've actually heard about the book before, by YouTuber Elliott Hulse! I guess I have to check it out then. Thanks for the tip! :-)
Good sperging is good sperging. I should know (but perhaps my sperging typically isn't good.) I'm very sceptical of whether or not we will reach such levels of societal collapse, but if it happens, I fully expect all ethnicites to go full survival-mode, as it should be. We're all human, after all, even though liberal, white caucasians seem to have become ridiculously naive during the last couple of decades. Perhaps if reality forced itself upon them, they would remember their roots. One can only hope.
Indeed, and then they foist the responsibility onto "the other side". I fear they will never learn, no matter the circumstances.
I haven't, no, but when I googled it I'm faced with the asian who went "it's all so tiresome." What an absolutely based chink! I guess I'll have to see it, then! :-)
Yet another book you've recommended that I'll eventually have to read. I have so many books lined up already, but I guess I'll just have to squeeze this one into the heap.
I've read a small bit of the holiday, and have come to understand that it's more or less a forced, politically correct "holiday" marketed by the powers that be. Even if it's tightly linked to the slavery of North America in times past, it's still very questionable if it's wise to celebreate such a thing in this day and age. You will only sow discord and discontent. Of all the Hollywood cunts, there are a handful of sane ones, and I believe that Morgan Freeman is one of them. His solution is simple: "stop talking about it (as in, stop talking about it as us vs. them). It'll only do more harm than good. I believe he has it figured out.
Most business owners will business own. I don't necessarily blame them for wanting to get an edge on the competition, but this is why market regulations is a natural part of any healthy economy. Not too much regulation, though. Keep it balanced (some of the very much union-pro socialists here in Sweden seem completely incapable of understanding that unions can and will use the exact type of excessive force that unrestrained business owners will, if given the chance.) This is not an opinion, but a historical fack (see swedish "fackpampar" (translation: "union bosses" — those were the leaders of various unions who made themselves fat and rich by gorging themselves upon the resources being funneled to their respective unions by their memebers.)
I suppose the most I can reasonably do is to vote. The problem then is that you might fall into the trap of being a "vooter" (voting, obviously, haven't been effective in combating these ills so far). Thank you for the encouraging words though, fren. We can only hope that things will get better, at some point! :-)
Oh man, those are a lot of quotes, haha! <3
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We'll have to see whether the more populist economic tilt is genuine or not first. But there's no logical reason those things are incompatible. Social conservatism and economic libertarianism aligned due to the Cold War out of convenience. Social liberalism and economic interventionism aligned because Marx simped for the French Revolution.
