Windows 12 - Intel's 14th-gen Meteor Lake-S desktop to support the unannounced OS

macOS 11 came out in 2020, Win 10 in 2015, following the trend started by Win 7 in 2009.
IIRC the only reason there wasn't a Windows 9 is because Microsoft did all their ancient NT 4.X code purging for Vista by having a string check for Windows 9X that skipped the old stuff in favor of the updated code, which they couldn't remove for compatibility reasons.
 
IIRC the only reason there wasn't a Windows 9 is because Microsoft did all their ancient NT 4.X code purging for Vista by having a string check for Windows 9X that skipped the old stuff in favor of the updated code, which they couldn't remove for compatibility reasons.
The numbering is a mess in general. Windows 8 is still Windows NT 6.X which is followed by Windows 10 = Windows NT 10.
 
The numbering is a mess in general. Windows 8 is still Windows NT 6.X which is followed by Windows 10 = Windows NT 10.
Microsoft has had a surefit of bureaucrats obsessed with out-competing each other when it comes to labeling and classification for a loooooooooong while.
Just look at the total clusterfuck that are the various Active Directory versions. Or the last few Xbox generations.
 
Idk why y'all are freaking out about this, I for one probably won't be upgrading until at least a decade in, or something like hardware would force me to upgrade to 11.
 
  • Microsoft is expected to make AI a big part of Windows, which will also become a mainstay in all processing and gaming hardware in the future.

See, when they say shit like this I just can't help but read it as your own hardware you yourself paid for being used to snoop and potentially narc on you. Even moreso than it already does. Sucks to feel like something you spent money on is potentially just a weapon to be used against you.

Shame that Windows went down this path. XP and 7 both came reasonably close to being quality products. Makes me all the happier to be comfy over in Debian.
 
  • Microsoft is expected to make AI a big part of Windows, which will also become a mainstay in all processing and gaming hardware in the future.
I'm going to make a safe bet here and say Windows 12 will probably completely remove the ability to create local accounts everywhere. I'm talking in Home, Pro, Enterprise, and Windows Server. I think the option will be gone from the Control Panel, the Local Users and Groups MMC snap-in, and they'll probably do everything in their power to prohibit NET USER from creating local accounts too.
 
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I am already preparing to integrate everything to Linux before Windows 10 seizes it's updates. Microsoft isn't what it used to be back in the Windows XP days. Not only does it violate your privacy but it's also less intuitive and convenient. So there is none of the usual "trade privacy for convenience" shit. Simple stuff that used to take 2 steps back with XP now take at least 7.

Fuck Microsoft. GNU all the way.
 
I gave that Bing AI chat a try recently. It's completely worthless. It's not even as good as Siri was when it was new, and I think it might be Smarterchild-tier. It just gave me a lot of "I don't know about (my query), but here are some things I found by searching" kind of responses. Weirdly tone-deaf polite, too, in that pajeet kind of way.

All that power of Azure, yet they can't make a chatbot worth its salt.
 
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Some videos who should give a watch (mute the music) about how little of the "new" features are new. Most are just leftovers from Win 7 or below. Win 11 is basically just Win 10, but looking worse:
Didn't watch it all the way as it was boring as fuck. This dude would be horrified if he learned what the Windows experience is like for sysadmins in the big end of town. Take Group Policy Management for instance
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Luna lives! But this isn't even the "worst" of it, the shared folder quota management stuff appears to have been lifted straight out of Windows 2000 (or earlier?)
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Check out that traffic light metaphor!

These aren't esoteric components, I use them everyday at work and they look like shit. But the deal is: they aren't shit and I'd rather keep using a janky as hell but functional UI than some UWP infested piece of shit or retarded web application that takes forever to load and crashes every other day because the Pajeet Cloud is not doing the needful. This idiot is complaining about Windows 11 being a mild reskin of Windows 10 and implying Microsoft should've changed more things but as we all know, every fucking time they do, they make it worse. How about we encourage Microsoft to wind the clock back, delete UWP/WebView2 and pretend everything after 7 was a bad dream?
 
An unrestricted, personalized AI for everyone similar to Her. Mankind's gradual dependence to AI with everyone becoming stupider in the coming years. Awesome!

If Microsoft wants to take over that market, making it available to developing nations should be the goal. They're primed for manipulation and influence. Imagine Facebook's influence in developing countries, but with a higher retention rate powered by AI.
 
Brave recently added an AI 'search assist' thing. Its incredibly useless and I don't know why anyone would trust a thing it says.
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If my computers ever get forcefully updated to Windows 11 (or 12), that will be the thing that makes me finally just install Linux. I've been avoiding installing Linux because I use Unreal Engine, and Tim Sweeney hates Linux (like an actual vendetta against it) so you have to compile your own binaries from source, which happens to be like 50+ gb.
 
I'm still getting used to Windows 11 on my laptop, hell I don't even have a word processor installed STILL (fuck subscriptions for basic nessicities)- though I've found office 2016, God's word processor, still out there- anyway, fuck a new OS. Windows 10 is superior, Windows 11... functional, just a lot of menus, but good on 2 in 1 laptops like my HP Pavillion more stable than 10 with touchscreens.

A Windows 12, just next year, is superfluous. Just fix 11 damn it. It's not broken, it works, but it needs EXTREME streamlining. And whatever you do, do not cut support for Windows 10 damn it!
 
I hate the antichrist
We could have just stayed with windows 10, kept improving it, because it's gotten pretty good, pretty secure too, because it's been built upon, layer by layer. Possibly the same could be done with 11 with enough time. But that's too much work, too much effort. Maybe it's the welder in me, but that's loser speak. Unless you have something COMPLETELY BROKEN, if it can be salvaged, do it. If you don't, the metal has beaten you. Beat windows 11 into fighting shape, make it the OS of the future- don't just give up on it. That is weakness.
 
Something that has escaped the finest AI-scientists here while figuring out new and creative ways to make chatgpt say nigger is how great these technologies are at categorizing and summarizing text (If you have a chatgpt account try it! copy&paste it a text and ask it to summarize the text into three sentences, or just ask it what it thinks the text is about) something that was sort of a holy grail in computer science for decades but is almost impossible to do well with more conventional approaches, because as it turns out, natural language is hard.

An OS with something like ChatGPT shoved into every it's orifice would be very apt at figuring out what you do with your computer in detail. It could easily summarize your personality by everything you write or do on your computer, much more effective than older approaches at telemetry, if the OS was designed from the ground up with that in mind. Sure, current windows could easily keylog your every input too, but let's face it, how useful would that be with millions of people using windows, what would you realistically do with all that uncategorized data? With the right infrastructure anchored into the OS, it'd be quite possible to build a personality profile of the user from literally everything he reads or types.

It'd also be quite easy to forbid him to do or write certain things, or at least to report him for it to some place.
 
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