With the prevalence of AI cheating, will schools start teaching cursive writing again?

[TJT]

Uh, pill me on kids not learning to hand-write, pls. I heard this a few times by now and even witnessed young people struggling, but how in the fuck is "cursive" even it's own thing like history or math? Why the hell would you not teach kids how to write with their hands? How long has this been happening?
Also: yes, rainbow me.

Penmanship was a class until the late 80s or so. Maybe even mid 90s in some places. Everyone had to take it and everyone was graded in it. All the way through school.

The Millennial generation never had to learn it.

 

[PonderosaPete]

How do you not know cursive? I do it for fun to this day, though, admittedly, I forget what a capital Q looks like for a second or two. I very rarely start a sentence with queen or queer. Most times the sentence ends with those.

 

[Fapcop]

With it being super easy to fake an essay with AI, we might see a push towards hand written assignments to ensure that the essays and homework were actually written by the students. If that's the case, could we see cursive writing returning to the curriculum? And could we start having more hand written documents and letters when authenticity is desired?

I like how you seem to think that schools exist to TEACH kids, and aren’t just huge cartels for the teachers unions and the whole complex of education associated industries.

Yes, cursive hand writing. Great idea.

Pretty sure the teachers who’ll need to teach and grade it, and the companies selling laptops and tablets will feel otherwise though.

(I’m reading the autobiography of a German WW2 general. It’s an interesting insight into a world that just doesn’t exist anymore. The world of a classical education with goals beyond keeping teachers employed. The general in question quotes the Iliad, comes up with Latin phrases, and details of classic Greek history as well as the Napoleonic wars. And he “just” had an officers education and worked in a warehouse as a laborer after the war. Yes, cursive handwriting would be great. Along with teaching kids Latin, Greek, history, Shakespeare and philosophy. Alas, that’s not the world we live in anymore.)

 

[Cemetery Support]

In elementary school when I learned cursive I was so happy, I wrote it all the time, working on my handwriting. I thought writing in cursive was the coolest thing ever. Then into high school, I thought it was kinda lame/I was too cool for it, and it wasn't mandatory anymore, so I want back to basic.
now about a decade later I write in cursive all the time because it fills me with a sick joy when I see the younger kids fresh out of high school struggling to read my impeccable cursive.

I write in this fucked up cursive-print cacographic hybrid. Some letters (like my m's, l's, o's, and b's) are all cursive, but the flow completely degrades when it gets to others.

To respond to the original prompt of the post, when you look up articles about AI in schools, you get AI generated articles or naive losers praising what it could do to "revolutionize education." Fuck that man. The only way forward is back, at this point.

 

[quaawaa]

With it being super easy to fake an essay with AI, we might see a push towards hand written assignments to ensure that the essays and homework were actually written by the students. If that's the case, could we see cursive writing returning to the curriculum? And could we start having more hand written documents and letters when authenticity is desired?

They can still cheat with AI for a handwritten assignment by hand copying whatever the LLM spits out.

There are two solutions to stop a determined AI cheater: ask questions that require actual reasoning skills or require all writing to be done in person.

The former won't happen though because most teachers can't constructively grade anything to save their lives. Even checking grammar is beyond their abilities. If you check /r/teachers, you'll see a lot of them admit that they use AI to grade assignments, which is horrifying because AI can't grade so the poor students are getting essentially random scores.

All LLMs have done is expose that most teachers assign essays as busywork and not as a method to teach writing skills or critical thinking.

Also, by default most LLMs "speak" in a very obvious style and most cheaters don't bother spending spend time editing their computer-generated answer to sound natural, so it's really easy to tell if an essay is AI-written or not.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Penmanship was a class until the late 80s or so. Maybe even mid 90s in some places. Everyone had to take it and everyone was graded in it. All the way through school.

The Millennial generation never had to learn it.

the American Education system like a bad parent who doesnt know how to say no to their children

 

[Yamaha YM2612]

Literally just abolish public schools. They seem to just be trying to rearrange all of society to placate "school" and teachers and "education". Fucking Let it go

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

It's not going to get any better even with that in place, because nowadays, state departments of education and politicians always focus on the wrong things. Instead of banning Google classrooms, Chromebooks or letting kids fail, we'll focus on retarded identity politics. State and admin will literally force teachers to use these weird programs and curriculums that are by some company that don't work at all. Including some of these "educational" AI bots. Chatgpt is partnering with ivy league schools to get more data. Ironically open AI in these ads are trying to parade themselves as trying to make things more "accessible". Education is deepfried.

Education now has no value in the U.S due to culture, corpos, and grifting politicians.

 

[Sooty Soot]

Never had to learn cursive when I was a kid, all your assignments were handwritten so every guy developed his own but strangely most people's handwriting coalesced into the same style apart from a few people.