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Sometimes I read something on v9k, I think they're lying, since lying on the internet is very easy. Do you ever read some stories and think "this is crap, they're just lying for 'biggest wizard points'"?

I think non-outsiders who post on /v9k/ are being honest. I post on /v9k/ myself once in a while and I present my stories accurately.

However as you deduced, sometimes it is to try and 1-up other posters to be the bigger wizard. So there are at least some exaggerations that go along with that. Very comparable to how someone might exaggerate the size of a trout from a fishing trip holding their hands out so show how big the catch was. But I don't see the basis of any posts to be lies at all. Nothing strikes me as that. The line between what is real and a bait-post from an outsider mocking us by pushing the limits can be hard to differentiate sometimes. I've got a decent sense now though because I really do post a lot on top of modding.

Presently surprised how many of these questions are pertinent to actual usage of the site. Maybe a few of you are legit posters perhaps.
 
I might as well drop the big question I got rattling around in my head:

Are girls really not allowed on the forums? And if so, why?
 
As opposed to what?
I might as well drop the big question I got rattling around in my head:

Are girls really not allowed on the forums? And if so, why?
Eh, I guess because girls can be bitches. But so can guys. So can everyone, lol. I still wish I could talk lucid dreaming and tulpas with some of the more spiritual wizards, but it is what it is. :P
If anyone needs me I'll be over in the succubus corner with all the other cool girls here.
I'm actually shocked that nobody understands the point of their no girls rule and I'm disappointed to see so many people injecting themselves into it for personal affect.

As I understand it:
1) Women are allowed on Wizardchan.
2) There is no active witch hunt aiming to ban all female posters.
3) Women are not allowed to say they are women, because the entire point of Anonymous is stripping one of one's identity and advantages/disadvantages in life. This is exactly why the word "femanon" was filtered to "cum dumpster" on 4chan for years. Imageboards were supposed to render everyone down to what they had to say and show. By allowing people to claim they were females, that gave their content more/less credibility, based on the viewer.

This is even more critically important to setup of Wizardchan, because the entire point of the board is to act as a coping mechanism for virgins, especially those whom are suffering as a result of social isolation. By introducing the female element, you completely fuck with the chemistry of the board and its users, and turn it from a dungeons & dragons meet to "he whom can white knight thoust hardests" competition.

Seriously, stop being all butthurt because they strip gender identity on Wizardchan. It's pathetic.
 
I'm actually shocked that nobody understands the point of their no girls rule and I'm disappointed to see so many people injecting themselves into it for personal affect.

As I understand it:
1) Women are allowed on Wizardchan.
2) There is no active witch hunt aiming to ban all female posters.
3) Women are not allowed to say they are women, because the entire point of Anonymous is stripping one of one's identity and advantages/disadvantages in life. This is exactly why the word "femanon" was filtered to "cum dumpster" on 4chan for years. Imageboards were supposed to render everyone down to what they had to say and show. By allowing people to claim they were females, that gave their content more/less credibility, based on the viewer.

This is even more critically important to setup of Wizardchan, because the entire point of the board is to act as a coping mechanism for virgins, especially those whom are suffering as a result of social isolation. By introducing the female element, you completely fuck with the chemistry of the board and its users, and turn it from a dungeons & dragons meet to "he whom can white knight thoust hardests" competition.

Seriously, stop being all butthurt because they strip gender identity on Wizardchan. It's pathetic.

I don't really get why any woman would even want to be a part of the community to begin with, seeing as though they seem quite filled with hatred towards the fairer sex. For the same reason any non-wizard shouldn't get offended to find himself banned, as it's not exactly the type of crowd you would want to associate yourself with in the first place.

There may be no witch hunt to ban non-males off wizardchan but then again, there also is no witch hunt against non-virgins. Still, both will be banned immediately upon being found out from what I've heard. If it works for them, it works, sure. Doesn't mean people cannot criticize the policy.

Especially when you have women who are lonely autistic virgins as well. Though lacking a wizard's staff I see no reason not to grant them their well-earned robes. ;) Especially when you take into consideration that there's really no other forum for 30+ female virgin fuckups to go to. If they want to join the pity parade why not let them? Preserving the chemistry only really makes sense IMO when said chemistry is actually healthy. Whereas wizardchan is a place for people to dwell on their misfortunes without looking ahead or improving themselves, and as such quite an unhealthy place to reside in. So why not shake things up a little? It wouldn't hurt anyone. Hell, wizards may even benefit from broadening their horizon a little. :D
 
I'm presenting this as someone who has never posted to Wizardchan nor explored it with any kind of depth. I understand the idea stripping identity. However, assuming that some/most of it is comprised with virgin dudes who make it known that they are virgin dudes, why is that ok vs. people knowing you're a virgin girl, for instance? The anonymous thing only seems to work if you let everyone assume you're a guy with guy issues. If someone was on Wizchan (this is my understanding) said my day sucked because someone punched me in the dick today, no one would bat an eye. If some girl was like my day sucked because someone punched me in the tit, would that result in a ban? If so, it's not true anonymity unless you totally skirt any discussion that would have a basis in your gender-based physiology. Which would mean no talking about how you wished your parents didn't circumcise you or whatever (which is a post I've seen while briefly browsing the place awhile ago).

It's fine with me if Wizchan is meant to be a boy's club and they want to label it as such. I have no desire to be part of the community (nor could I by its own rules). But it can't be both a boys club AND promote "total anonymity" by that definition.
 
It's fine with me if Wizchan is meant to be a boy's club and they want to label it as such. I have no desire to be part of the community (nor could I by its own rules). But it can't be both a boys club AND promote "total anonymity" by that definition.
So here's how it works.

You have a community that is 95% male, most of them virgins with rage. They don't want women around for the obvious implications, but they're also not going to spend the energy weeding out female users based on guessing.

This is what's happening:
"This is a forum for male virgins."
"That's sexist! That's against my rights! That's not acceptable! I am a virgin and a female and this isn't fair to me!"
"You can post, but just don't say you're a girl."
"I am a woman and my voice will be heard!"

Like, what would happen if Glaive lifted that rule? Women, and trolls posing as women, would start posting. You'd start seeing people fighting with each other, you'd get the creepy Paul Blart effect to the point where women wouldn't feel comfortable posting to begin with. Allowing open female posters would tear at the fabric of their community.

I mean, honestly, would you see Altissimo or Wheat Pasta or Trombonista posting there if they fucking lifted that rule? Hell no. At most they'd get a thread that'd remind a bunch of broken socially inept cunts that they're going to die alone. Good job.
 
People posting to troll.

We would never.

Also, thanks Glaive. It seems aside from v9k and a few posters who really seem to hold something against women for being virgins (from what i've seen in the wizardchan thread from a few visiting wizards), you guys are all right.
 
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Null described the reasoning behind our implicit rule 0 very well (no girls allowed).


I am glad you found a place that works well for you.

Reading this over made me feel some strange feels. I enjoy running and participating within the Wizardchan community without a doubt, but "being a virgin" is far from what I would call my main identity. It's a small fact of my life that I don't obsess over. I'm proud of what I've contributed and put into the site but at the same time it just doesn't quite feel AS rewarding as it might somewhere else. The negative connotation just doesn't sit with me right always.
On top of the fact that I would never be able to speak of Wizardchan to anyone in real life or ever be able to promote it, show it off, ect. ect.

I am reclusive and socially inept outside of the site without a doubt. But at the same time I still work my hardest towards success and am active in my life mainly through classes, commuting, work, and family needs. It's just eerie looking at the duality of myself between that part of life and then my time online.

Sorry for blogging, this is a weird subject I don't have an outlet for.
 
So, Glaive, I have been wondering about something. I think it has been discussed before, but I'd like to ask anyway.

Not every wizard is going to be a complete NEET shut-in that never leaves the house. One might have met people in his lifetime that can be considered acquaintances or even friends. Could be from school, family, workplace, or some other stuff, but overall, they are still virgins. In a thread, they might mention a friend that has something to do with the topic. He is immediately called out as a normalfag and stuff.

Should this kind of thing be discouraged on WizChan, or just ignored?
 
So, Glaive, I have been wondering about something. I think it has been discussed before, but I'd like to ask anyway.

Not every wizard is going to be a complete NEET shut-in that never leaves the house. One might have met people in his lifetime that can be considered acquaintances or even friends. Could be from school, family, workplace, or some other stuff, but overall, they are still virgins. In a thread, they might mention a friend that has something to do with the topic. He is immediately called out as a normalfag and stuff.

Should this kind of thing be discouraged on WizChan, or just ignored?

As I've covered, anyone suggesting they are somehow a 'better' poster simply because they are NEET or more isolated than another user is just trying to bully and 1-up others. So those calling out normalfag at every opportunity they get in situations that don't involve romantic or social activities are part of that. It's the social-hierarchy idea I talked about a lot. Calling someone a normalfag is a quick way to discredit a post and it's abused as such.

It's almost like being 13 again where you'd hear kids calling things gay even though it had no relation to homosexuality. As in, "oh that game is gay" and using it as a generic descriptor for something negative or disliked. Just plug in normal, normies, or normalfag instead and it's the same idea. Normal=bad. There are situations where normalfags actually get called out and it makes sense, but many times it is used to say something sucks.

Hope that further explains that.
 
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If you will lose your virginity, would you do as copypaste did and confess it to the forum?
 
If you will lose your virginity, would you do as copypaste did and confess it to the forum?

I've already held the position longer than copy did as an able-bodied person. So it's not even a scenario that I would think about or need to decide on. I have enough things going on in my life that require attention and worry and that isn't one of them.

Copy did what he did in an effort to wave his e-penis around and promote his new site as much as possible. Hell he watermarked a bunch of screens from the incident with his new site name, tagged videos with it, spammed it in IRC, hosted IRC log files on his site, and plugged his URL into the chat multiple times during his "confession" just to squeeze every bit of advertising possible from it.
Furthering his own personal agenda without any regard for how he would be viewed. Stay classy cripplejew.
 
I've already held the position longer than copy did as an able-bodied person. So it's not even a scenario that I would think about or need to decide on. I have enough things going on in my life that require attention and worry and that isn't one of them.

Would losing your virginity be something you view as bad? Is it in your opinion a negative thing? Would you avoid sex were you ever in the position to have it, or would you simply embrace the opportunity and go with the flow? I understand you do not worry about not having sex or the possible results from you losing it. But if you ever did, do you feel it would make unable to run the site? You could just stay quiet about it, not brag. Whatever the other wizards don't know cannot hurt them. ;)

Copy did what he did in an effort to wave his e-penis around and promote his new site as much as possible. Hell he watermarked a bunch of screens from the incident with his new site name, tagged videos with it, spammed it in IRC, hosted IRC log files on his site, and plugged his URL into the chat multiple times during his "confession" just to squeeze every bit of advertising possible from it.
Furthering his own personal agenda without any regard for how he would be viewed. Stay classy cripplejew.

So you would say the fact that he lost his virginity is the first place is not betrayel to the site, but the way in which he handled the affair was shitty? Or was there a sense of betrayal for you too? I imagine (and I could be wrong here) that the virginity thing is a major deal for many of your members because they hate being virgins. That if it didn't matter to wizards, they wouldn't make it such a huge part of their identities. On any other forum he would've been high-fived for what he did, but on yours it had the opposite effect.

Anyway, if I put myself in the shoes of a wizard for a bit and I get where you guys are coming from. It must be painful to have someone rub his success in your face like that. One last question: how much do you personally identify with the userbase, and it's more bitter segments?
 
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Do you think that the site's particular focus on unwanted virginity is part of what creates the more toxic parts of the community? If the site was branded to have more of a focus on, say, social anxiety, or even celibacy as a life choice, do you think some of the "Biggest-NEET-contest" issues would've been resolved from the start? Or would that change the fundamental concept of the site to the point where it would be unrecognizable and something you wouldn't have wanted to take part in?
 
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Glaive,

Have you enjoyed coming here and talking to us? I know Wizardchan holds the stigma of not interacting with anyone else from other communities, but you seem like a well-adjusted guy and there's been some nice dialogues from the messages I've seen in this thread thus far.
 
You don't seem to like the dick measuring contest that goes on at Wizardchan, so if you had it your way, what kind of direction would you want the board to go instead?
 
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Sorry for delayed response, midterms week and working on new track.

Would losing your virginity be something you view as bad? Is it in your opinion a negative thing? Would you avoid sex were you ever in the position to have it, or would you simply embrace the opportunity and go with the flow?

It is neither good nor bad. It simply is the way it is. But it's not like I'm going out of my way to avoid it. I'm just living my life and making the decisions that I find best for myself. And if those decisions end up putting me in a position of no females, so be it. I'd get more into the desire aspect, but I'll leave that for another time.


So you would say the fact that he lost his virginity is the first place is not betrayel to the site, but the way in which he handled the affair was shitty? Or was there a sense of betrayal for you too?

It was a shitty move on many levels. But I was primarily pissed of how he handled it and turned it into a publicity stunt just to further his own personal agenda. We knew each other pretty well at that point and it was disturbing to see how he used it as a means of promoting his new site.

How much do you personally identify with the userbase, and it's more bitter segments?

There is plenty of relatable material. I find that a very large percent of it tackles feelings and issues that people would otherwise be too afraid to speak up about in any other setting or community. As for being bitter? Well part of that again is being able to let this out in a setting where they CAN vent and not be ridiculed or bashed immediately. These are very real thoughts that most people would otherwise suppress out of correctness/politeness despite it being their true feelings on it.

Do you think that the site's particular focus on unwanted virginity is part of what creates the more toxic parts of the community? If the site was branded to have more of a focus on, say, social anxiety, or even celibacy as a life choice, do you think some of the "Biggest-NEET-contest" issues would've been resolved from the start? Or would that change the fundamental concept of the site to the point where it would be unrecognizable and something you wouldn't have wanted to take part in?

Ideally I'd like to see more of what you described. I think the fundamental concept is in fact taking that spotlight off of relationships and social life and being able to discuss other matters without these topics popping up. And part of that should be not discussing virginity itself to death. That is still putting focus on women.
We temporarily tried adding the rule "no discussion of women" to /v9k/ and I actually liked the results. It allowed for more discussion anxiety, social issues, and personal depression discussions, and actually resulted in less bait/troll threads to boot. It was really nice. We had a lot of complaints though so we took the the rule off. People still want to vent about that aspect and I understand that.

Glaive,

Have you enjoyed coming here and talking to us? I know Wizardchan holds the stigma of not interacting with anyone else from other communities, but you seem like a well-adjusted guy and there's been some nice dialogues from the messages I've seen in this thread thus far.

I wouldn't say there is any stigma against interacting with other online communities. It's not like I am attending the CWCki 3rd annual sock-hop. (would actually attend/10).
But yes, I enjoy posting here and using the chat. I find the communities quite similar on a conversational level. Obviously the WC board is far different topic-wise. But...I get this feeling there is a ton of crossover just in the demographic. There are obviously girls here and plenty of socially adept individuals, but they both have that erm, internet-fringe-community-tight-nit sorta feel. It's exclusive. I don't know how to describe it better. Anyone kinda see that too? But yeah, you guys are swell.

You don't seem to like the dick measuring contest that goes on at Wizardchan, so if you had it your way, what kind of direction would you want the board to go instead?

Please see my answer to Protoman. Basically more focus on personal depression, hobbies, and other discussions while simultaneously keeping romantic/relationship topics out of the picture, and just trying to cut back on the hollow >twfnogf topics. Harshly enforcing rules 1+2+3.
 
How does one get banned from WC,
Say some bitch goes there with a picture of boobs and does something like "OMG I'm a girl and y'all is loserzzzzzzz [add more z if you desire] get a life get laid I has sex u totes jelly?"
Would you ban this person, and if so how? You can't really give a warning since the person stays anonymous, would you just IP block or something.
 
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