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[c-no]

YES I CARE ABOUT HER PLEASURE. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. Do you think I'd be satisfied if I fked and she didn't moan or do anything while fking?

This is my main insecurity and this is also some of that esoteric knowledge that is hard to swallow. You can only give orgasms to women if you are alpha.

I'm very sure that when it comes to giving a woman an orgasm, you would need to have skill to do that. Being an alpha wouldn't mean anything, especially if said alpha lacked skill.

 

[MysticMisty]

You can only give orgasms to women if you are alpha.

Or you could, like, ask her what turns her on and if you're open minded/not completely and forever grossed out by her fetishes/touching her/whatever and work with her to bring her to orgasm. Your tone however indicates that if your dick alone isn't enough then tough shit I blame other men/women.

 

[Obnoxion]

KNOWLEDGE DROP #1:

Free will [probably] doesn't exist.

I don't think you can prove or disprove that in any way. So, in that case, Pascal's Wager seems to apply very well. Quoting from RationalWiki:

1. If you assume you have free will, and you do, then you can use it to direct your life; thus a huge gain.
2. If you assume you don't have free will, and you do, then you are wasting the only thing over which you have any choice; thus a huge loss.
3. If you assume you have free will, and you don't, there is no loss or gain since you had no choice in the matter.
4. If you assume you don't have free will, and you don't, there is no loss or gain since you had no choice in the matter.

Therefore regardless of whether free will exists or not, you should live based on the assumption that you do have free will and that your choices do matter.

 

[Watcher]

I feel pity for the Wizardchan Diplomat. He's resigned himself to a life of self pity and expects others to respect it because of his "feels".

The problem is the world, and especially this site doesn't work that way. You have to earn respect and admiration from people.

One thing I have to pity a great deal is he sees relationships as largely sex based. Most of the time a relationship is either just conversation and going out. I have to ask the Wizard can you imagine going out to say, a coffee shop and talking to a girl about something other than Vidya and Anime?

 

[wizard_diplomat]

Still all about you though, isn't it?

Maybe if I loved and cared about her it be more about her, but my own satisfaction still comes into play. No one is 100% altruistic.

 

[The Dude]

I'm by no means an Alpha male, but I've never left a woman unsatisfied. You're just trying to find excuses and cop-outs for your own shortfalls and insecurities.

 

[Watcher]

Still all about you though, isn't it?

Maybe if I loved and cared about her it be more about her, but my own satisfaction still comes into play. No one is 100% altruistic.

You're a horrible person.

A relationship is a two way street. You have to legitimately care about another person's needs above your own. No wonder you can't associate with people.

 

[The Dude]

Still all about you though, isn't it?

Maybe if I loved and cared about her it be more about her, but my own satisfaction still comes into play. No one is 100% altruistic.

You have to give to receive in a relationship. You have to put them before yourself.

 

[c-no]

Still all about you though, isn't it?

Maybe if I loved and cared about her it be more about her, but my own satisfaction still comes into play. No one is 100% altruistic.

Just because your satisfaction comes into play doesn't mean it is all about you. As some have said, relationships are a two-way street.

 

[littlebiscuits]

Still all about you though, isn't it?

Maybe if I loved and cared about her it be more about her, but my own satisfaction still comes into play. No one is 100% altruistic.

What I meant was, some men feel like a woman's pleasure is merely a reflection of their skill and that making a woman orgasm is some sort of achievement for them.

That attitude is rarely conductive to a healthy relationship. It's like turning your girlfriend into a living sex toy, complete with an ego booster.

 

[Dunsparce]

I would just like to remind people to try to be civil. Don't take this guy too seriously, I WILL lock this thread if the shit gets thick again, and probably split this whole thing into another thread to put into spergatory like last time.

 

[wizard_diplomat]

Still all about you though, isn't it?

Maybe if I loved and cared about her it be more about her, but my own satisfaction still comes into play. No one is 100% altruistic.

What I meant was, some men feel like a woman's pleasure is merely a reflection of their skill and that making a woman orgasm is some sort of achievement for them.

That attitude is rarely conductive to a healthy relationship. It's like turning your girlfriend into a living sex toy, complete with an ego booster.

Look, if I have sex I want the woman to be satisfied. Doesn't everyone want *their partner to be satisfied?? Yeah, it'd be an ego boost. I can't help what I desire.

*edit

 

[Watcher]

Look, if I have sex I want the woman to be satisfied. Doesn't everyone want *their partner to be satisfied?? Yeah, it'd be an ego boost. I can't help what I desire.

*edit

A relationship is about more than sex. Women are more than just sexy dolls that you fuck and get to make you sandwiches.

 

[The Dude]

Then you need to talk to her to see what she likes. Sex isn't just getting naked, insert penis A into vagina B, thrust, repeat, orgasm. It's communication just as much as it's a physical act.

 

[littlebiscuits]

Look, if I have sex I want the woman to be satisfied. Doesn't everyone want *their partner to be satisfied?? Yeah, it'd be an ego boost. I can't help what I desire.

*edit

Okay, fair enough, fair enough. At least you're being honest, and that counts for something. May I ask, if it is not too rude, what would you consider an a successful relationship? What sort of woman would you want to spend your life with?

 

[Watcher]

If you just want sex just hire a hooker and get it over with

 

[Silver]

You can only give orgasms to women if you are alpha. This is as hardcoded in women as it is in how men are mainly attracted to physicality. These are cold, hard truths.

Hi there, wizard! My name is Altissimo. I'm a 19 year old woman who is not ashamed to admit that she's had sex with two guys (both of them ex-boyfriends).

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to sex! That is something that I am completely fine with outright admitting. But that's why it took me until abnormal psychology to learn that there's actually only one type of female orgasm and it's clitoral orgasm (as opposed to vaginal). With that in mind, I don't think I've ever orgasmed!!! Because I don't masturbate and beyond that when the exes would mess with my clit I would actually stop them because it was getting too physically intense for me to handle.

But I actually don't care that I've never had an orgasm! Sex is fun and it makes me feel good and if the ex orgasmed and was done that was usually good enough for me and I'd be happy but nonetheless go back to my usual snarky self! Because sex is cool but I actually really don't give a shit about it all that much. I'm sure I'm not alone!!!

But anyway my point is you're talking here as if there's some sort of defined Thing which women Are and there aren't any exceptions to this rule. I should also add that neither of my exes were Thundercocks. My second ex especially wasn't anywhere close! And yet I loved them both dearly and the fact that they're exes is not really something I see as a problem! The break-ups certainly didn't come from anything sexual related.

I guess what I'm saying is that part of your problem is that you're assuming things are true about women without talking a minute to think that maybe there's more to us than just... whatever you feel society has "conditioned" them to think/feel/whatever. With that in mind, feel free to ask me Woman Questions and I will answer to the best of my ability and not be rude (unless you're really rude to me first)!

 

[RetardBus]

KNOWLEDGE DROP #1:

Free will [probably] doesn't exist.

This is how I approach the world. And with this in mind, you'd be a lot more sympathetic to the plight of the wizzes. You'd be more sympathetic...even towards Hitler...even towards the murderer of one of your family members. Inputs into a system begets consistent outputs. You give men the types of experiences some wizardchan users have had, they become wizards. You grow a child in a bad environment, he becomes a murderer.

You calling out the bullshit of wizards is useful but why not be sympathetic...why not say it in a loving way? [inbe4 tough love, teasing is necessary sometimes]

And you know what? I apology for seeming arrogant with my attitude about my knowledge. But it's a defense mechanism. It's a way to maintain pride, not only for me but also wizardchan users. But here you go: I'm casting all my pride aside. I'm naked. Vulnerable. Do with me as you please. [Ladies, please fuck me...not with this: , I mean ride me]

You talk about taking up a hobby since we stay inside. Well some have tried...there was a thread about them learning programming. But (like non-wizzes) we can be lazy. Me, personally, I spend time browsing and posting on boards as catharsis for my depression from not getting laid and my lack of female companionship. If I had a girlfriend who gave me sex every night I'd probably have enough energy and ambition to conquer continents.

Being a wizard is not a choice. It's a RESULT. It's bad luck. Sometimes feels are too powerful to overcome. Sometimes people aren't given the tools and knowledge to change like you Obnoxion. But maybe I'm wrong...

Mollycoddling does not help one overcome their personal issues and depression. Despite being what you wizards would call a "Normalfag", like many others who have posted before me, I had some pretty severe social issues myself, and still do, believe it or not. However, I chose to improve myself and do something about those social issues instead of going onto some image board and wallowing in my own self pity. If I was coddled as opposed to learning from failure and seeing opportunities to improve myself, I never would have actually improved myself.

Relationships aren't just all about getting free sex every night. Yes, sex is part of relationships, but there is so much more to than just "Let's strip naked and slam our genitals together!". Like many others have pointed out, just having sex won't automatically change your life for the better. If anything, you will only be extremely disappointed to see how little you and your life have changed after losing your virginity, and become even more depressed as a result. If you're eager to find this out for yourself and if you're desperate enough, just fuck an escort and you'll find out.

 

[wizard_diplomat]

Look, if I have sex I want the woman to be satisfied. Doesn't everyone want *their partner to be satisfied?? Yeah, it'd be an ego boost. I can't help what I desire.

*edit

A relationship is about more than sex. Women are more than just sexy dolls that you fuck and get to make you sandwiches.

Are you implying love? Love doesn't exist. (Info drop #3 now if you include the orgasm bit).

How many men and women say "I love you" after walking the aisle and 2 yrs later are in court and are talking nasty about each other to friends?
Relationships are based off of sexual lust, friendship, money (sharing of resources), ability to trust and depend on other. Take away sexual lust and you just have a friendship or a family member. Love is tenuous. Love is temporary.

May I ask, if it is not too rude, what would you consider an a successful relationship? What sort of woman would you want to spend your life with?

You could never be rude to me.

Realistic relationship:
I can trust that we will love each other forever and always be together. She will love me and be my friend. She'll be physically attractive to me and maintain hotness enough to be a cougar in her 50s and 60s...She'll be an orphan so I don't have to meet her parents. I can give her orgasms. She likes anime and manga and we can talk about it and maybe even I can like her special interests. She doesn't want children.

Unrealistic relationship:
She will be genetically engineered to take pleasure from fucking only me and also takes pleasure in making me sandwiches . She would be my friend and forever maintain her looks. We'd be together forever.

 

[Watcher]

Are you implying love? Love doesn't exist. (Info drop #3 now if you include the orgasm bit).

How many men and women say "I love you" after walking the aisle and 2 yrs later are in court and are talking nasty about each other to friends?
Relationships are based off of sexual lust, friendship, money (sharing of resources), ability to trust and depend on other. Take away sexual lust and you just have a friendship or a family member. Love is tenuous. Love is temporary.

You my friend are going to be a very lonely person.

Love is more than a transaction. Love goes beyond words, it makes you do things you normally wouldn't do in a million years. It makes you happier, it makes you want to eat right and exercise, it makes you want to donate to charity and read books.

To put it bluntly, when you're in love it's almost like you've touched down on a different planet. Some might say it's naivete but fundamentally, it's a big part of being a human being. Caring for another person and letting go of selfishness.