Culture Women's fencer opens up on refusing to face transgender opponent, accepting punishment and backlash - The female fencer says the issue has turned her from a lifelong Democrat to a conservative Republican

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Women's fencer Stephanie Turner took her mask off and got a knee in front of her transgender opponent.

Ahead of a bout at the Cherry Blossom Open in Maryland over the weekend, Turner, 31, made the decision not to compete against trans athlete Redmond Sullivan. And Turner also wanted to make sure her refusal was caught on video for the world to see.

Turner came to the decision the night before the event when she checked the competition pools and saw that she would be competing against Sullivan, whom she had read about in an article last year.

"I saw that I was going to be in a pool with Redmond, and from there I said, ‘OK, let’s do it. I'm going to take the knee,'" Turner told Fox News Digital.

Turner went through all her warm-ups that day and went on to fence in four bouts before her matchup with the trans athlete. When it came, she was "nervous and shaky," but was sure about her decision.

"I knew what I had to do because USA Fencing had not been listening to women's objections regarding [its gender eligibility policy]," Turner said.

"I took a knee immediately at that point. Redmond was under the impression that I was going to start fencing. So when I took the knee, I looked at the ref and I said, ‘I’m sorry, I cannot do this. I am a woman, and this is a man, and this is a women's tournament. And I will not fence this individual.'

"Redmond didn't hear me, and he comes up to me, and he thinks that I may be hurt, or he doesn't understand what's happening. He asks, ‘Are you OK?’ And I said, ‘I’m sorry. I have much love and respect for you, but I will not fence you."

And right after that, Turner's punishment by USA Fencing commenced.

"Redmond says to me, ‘Well you know, there is a member on the board of directors here who supports me, and there is a policy that acknowledges me as a woman, so I am allowed to fence, and you will get blackcarded,’ and I said, 'I know," Turner said.

Minutes later, the referees dealt Turner a black card, which represents the most severe penalty, leading to expulsion from the tournament or event for serious rule infractions or unsportsmanlike behavior.

Turner said she was then escorted to the bout committee where she had to explain what she did. She says the members then handed her a copy of the association's transgender policy and made her sign a document acknowledging the black card. Turner said she signed the document under objection.

Then, Turner was escorted out of the venue, she said.

USA Fencing provided a statement to Fox News Digital addressing the incident.

"USA Fencing enacted our current transgender and non-binary athlete policy in 2023. The policy was designed to expand access to the sport of fencing and create inclusive, safe spaces. The policy is based on the principle that everyone should have the ability to participate in sports and was based upon the research available of the day," the statement read.

"We respect the viewpoints on all sides and encourage our members to continue sharing them with us as the matter evolves. It's important for the fencing community to engage in this dialogue, but we expect this conversation to be conducted respectfully, whether at our tournaments or in online spaces. The way to progress is by respectful discussion based in evidence."

A USA Fencing spokesperson also told Fox News Digital that Turner was not penalized for her stance against trans inclusion, but simply for refusing to fence.

"In the case of Stephanie Turner, her disqualification was not related to any personal statement but was merely the direct result of her decision to decline to fence an eligible opponent, which the FIE rules clearly prohibit," the spokesperson said.

"According to the FIE (International Fencing Federation) Technical Rules, specifically Article t.113, a fencer is not permitted to refuse to fence another properly entered fencer for any reason. Under these rules, such a refusal results in disqualification and the corresponding sanctions. This policy exists to maintain fair competition standards and preserve the sport’s integrity."

Turner said she has not heard anything back from the organization since the incident.

It was an incident she had actively tried to avoid at prior events. Turner said she previously refused to enter multiple past fencing events that included other transgender fencers that she knew about. It's an issue that she made an effort to stay on top of for her own awareness and safety.

"In previous years when I had known about transgender fencers being present, I just wouldn't register, but for this one, Redmond must have signed up after me," Turner said.

"I was like, ‘You know what, I’m just going to give it to God. If this person shows up to my event and is on my script, then I would take a knee, and that would be God's will.'"

It was not a decision she came to lightly, however.

Turner paid close attention to the "protect women's sports" movement that has emerged in recent years, and the backlash and harassment faced by the women who took part in it. She recalled the story of Riley Gaines being held hostage and assaulted at San Francisco State University in April 2023.

The idea of the backlash haunted Turner, but wasn't enough to stop her from taking the knee.

"It will probably, at least for a moment, destroy my life. I don't think that it's going to be easy for me from now on going to fencing tournaments. I don't think it's going to be easy for me at practice," Turner said. "It's very hard for me to do this."

For Turner, one of the sacrifices she is most concerned about is impeding the friendships she has with people in the LGBT community, who she said don't currently know about her stance on the issue.

As a lifelong Democrat, Turner insists she never opposed LGBTQ people. But the issue of trans inclusion of women's sports has driven her away from supporting the party, and she now identifies as a "new Republican conservative."

"I voted red down the ticket this year," Turner said. "It was like waking up to the lies of the mainstream media… Just to watch so many of my friends have this glassy-eyed look while just defending this policy because their brains can not manage the possibility that their party or their position has been wrong on this, and perhaps this isn't a civil rights movement, and they have been misled."

Turner added that she fully supports President Donald Trump cutting funding to states that allow trans athletes to compete in women's and girls sports.

"Something needs to be done, and there are activists who have embedded themselves in authoritative positions in sports bodies."

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"I support trans people but not men's bodies in women's spaces?" Stupid fucking bitch.
This pattern of disconnected reasoning is why the tranny sports issue hasn't been resolved yet. They're not willing to make logical decisions based on what is known, electing to indulge in quackery that further inflames the issue.

By being against trannies in sports, you acknowledge that men are fundamentally different from women physically. The next logical step would be to recognise that trannies aren't actually what they claim they are and no amount of playing pretend is going to fix that. For whatever reason, they don't want to accept that and the lunatics get to continue running the asylum.
 
male superiority isn't limited to physical strength
even a non physical competition like chess still has a huge gap between the male and female competitors
That's probably more to do with distribution than actual limits, as a distinction. There might be more very smart men for every smart woman, but there are no very strong women as strong as a very strong man.
 
I don't understand how the average person who supports all of this trans shit,
The average person has been subjected to several decades of propaganda that insist women are just as good and just as a strong and just as equal and just as independant as the men and that's why gender exclusive spaces need to be abolished and they are bigoted and wrong.

This is just the biggest case of "reap what you sow" in history.
 
"I support trans people but not men's bodies in women's spaces?" Stupid fucking bitch.
It’s stupid, but that disclaimer is there purely so she isn’t instantly dismissed as a heckin evil bigot that has evil bigot opinions.

Same way the fencer said that she loves and respects the tranny opponent but would not fence him.
She didn’t and doesn’t love tranny opponent, but it’s to cut off hate speech bigot claims so her actual message isn’t discounted as widely.
 
Same way the fencer said that she loves and respects the tranny opponent but would not fence him.
If that were true she would've fought the tranny. She clearly does not see him as an equal by refusing to fence with him plus the tranny community won't be saying "Wow that was nice of her!", they are probably going to say "fucking bigoted MAGA bitch I'm glad she got disqualified, SLAAAAY".

I get what you are saying but that's exactly why it is still an issue. Most trannies are men but most enablers are women.
 
If that were true she would've fought the tranny. She clearly does not see him as an equal by refusing to fence with him plus the tranny community won't be saying "Wow that was nice of her!", they are probably going to say "fucking bigoted MAGA bitch I'm glad she got disqualified, SLAAAAY"
Yes, i acknowledged that it wasn’t true.

Statements like this aren’t for the tranny community, because like you said she’s an evil MAGA bigot bitch to them no matter what because she wouldn’t fence this delicate lil girl.

Statements like this are for everyone else, they’re for the people who don’t have strong feelings either way on the issue, that aren’t tuned into politics or the tranny menace.

They’re the ones who are going to see the disclaimer and be more likely to give the woman a little bit of grace because she prefaced it with a message of anti hate.

There’s no pleasing the trannies unless she both fenced the tranny AND lost.
 
Uhh isn't this the type of sport where physical strength doesn't matter as much as your skill?
You're technically right in the literal "strength is the ability to exert force against an external resistance" sense (the only resistance is the weight of the sword and your own body), but maleness affects far more than merely strength. It has a huge impact on power, which pretty much directly influences how fast you can accelerate. It also affects anthropometry (how tall you are, how long your arms are, etc). Both of these are important in fencing, but power production (how quickly and explosively you can recruit muscle fibers) especially is essential in basically every real sport that isn't powerlifting (yes, the name is ironic). It's sometimes referred to simply as "general athleticism", and is usually measured using a standing vertical jump test.

I would also like to take a moment to mention (to nobody in particular) that testosterone is not a strength potion: it is a growth potion. It also plays an essential role in sex differentiation in the womb, and that effect - which is permanent once it occurs - is what accounts for most of the huge gap in power production between men and women. So all the hormone shenanigans in the world to an adult man will at most only cause his strength to gradually decline (and this can be greatly slowed with proper maintenance strength training, the kind that old lifters do) , and the power and anthropometry gaps will never be closed.

In short, there is no sane world where men can fairly compete against women. Even if we limited the competition to purely strength, it would require that the man has gone his entire life with artificially reduced testosterone levels (which would violate the "sane world" clause, I would hope).
 
Can't PL too much because fencing is a very small community.

But good for her.
weird way to dox yourself but ok Stephanie
I've been saying this for years. The quickest way to put a stop to this would be the site of a loan dude in make-up running along a track by himself. But the female athletes all just keep on competing.
i know schools don't go in depth on the civil rights movement but thats actually really the exact opposite and will be used against the cause because of how iconic that image would be
Something that doesn't get talked about much is that sports in some way is a very vulnerable space once captured by ideology.
it also helps that most athletes are retarded and sports in general teach people to "go with the flow" of a team and not thing about their own personal feelings. So plenty of athletes wouldn't be able to articulate why they don't want trannies in the sport. There's a reason Joe Rogan is considered one of the top minds in MMA.
 
Trannies in women's sports is bad enough but when it's combat sports it really sickens me on a deep visceral level. Men should not want to fight women. Obviously, I'm not talking about if your life is at risk, but I just can't even imagine how fucked in the head you have to be to get enjoyment or fulfillment out of publicly beating the shit out of a woman. I just don't even have words to describe how fucking disgusting and repugnant I find it. These things aren't women, they're not men, even calling them animals is an insult to animals. You never see male dogs attacking female dogs for fun unless they're psychotic. Even animals know that shit's wrong and fucked up. These things are just aberrations against nature, or God if you're so inclined, and should be dealt with as such.
 
I see it as a sportsmanship thing. Kneeling is probably the tactful way to protest while still trying to maintain respect for the competition and sport of it all. Being a sore loser and having a lil meltdown has gotten entire teams disqualified.
Gets black carded, plays the black card.

It's like pottery, it rhymes.
 
Do not turn this shit into a retarded boys vs. girls debate. If you think it's unfair when certain women try to lump all males into one group, then don't do the same thing to women. There has always been a significant number of women in opposition to the transgender movement. Do not try to pretend that isn't the case just so you can have an excuse to shit on the feeemales.
so where were the women speaking out against it from the start? troons didn't became a thing over night everywhere, there's plenty of other letters of the LGBQ alphabet able to say they want no part in it. instead they decided to be all big happy club to fight "intolerance" and other libshit buzzwords.

they could've said right from the start this is too much, instead now they have to suck the girlpenis. but it's the fault of who again?
 
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