Culture Women's fencer opens up on refusing to face transgender opponent, accepting punishment and backlash - The female fencer says the issue has turned her from a lifelong Democrat to a conservative Republican

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Women's fencer Stephanie Turner took her mask off and got a knee in front of her transgender opponent.

Ahead of a bout at the Cherry Blossom Open in Maryland over the weekend, Turner, 31, made the decision not to compete against trans athlete Redmond Sullivan. And Turner also wanted to make sure her refusal was caught on video for the world to see.

Turner came to the decision the night before the event when she checked the competition pools and saw that she would be competing against Sullivan, whom she had read about in an article last year.

"I saw that I was going to be in a pool with Redmond, and from there I said, ‘OK, let’s do it. I'm going to take the knee,'" Turner told Fox News Digital.

Turner went through all her warm-ups that day and went on to fence in four bouts before her matchup with the trans athlete. When it came, she was "nervous and shaky," but was sure about her decision.

"I knew what I had to do because USA Fencing had not been listening to women's objections regarding [its gender eligibility policy]," Turner said.

"I took a knee immediately at that point. Redmond was under the impression that I was going to start fencing. So when I took the knee, I looked at the ref and I said, ‘I’m sorry, I cannot do this. I am a woman, and this is a man, and this is a women's tournament. And I will not fence this individual.'

"Redmond didn't hear me, and he comes up to me, and he thinks that I may be hurt, or he doesn't understand what's happening. He asks, ‘Are you OK?’ And I said, ‘I’m sorry. I have much love and respect for you, but I will not fence you."

And right after that, Turner's punishment by USA Fencing commenced.

"Redmond says to me, ‘Well you know, there is a member on the board of directors here who supports me, and there is a policy that acknowledges me as a woman, so I am allowed to fence, and you will get blackcarded,’ and I said, 'I know," Turner said.

Minutes later, the referees dealt Turner a black card, which represents the most severe penalty, leading to expulsion from the tournament or event for serious rule infractions or unsportsmanlike behavior.

Turner said she was then escorted to the bout committee where she had to explain what she did. She says the members then handed her a copy of the association's transgender policy and made her sign a document acknowledging the black card. Turner said she signed the document under objection.

Then, Turner was escorted out of the venue, she said.

USA Fencing provided a statement to Fox News Digital addressing the incident.

"USA Fencing enacted our current transgender and non-binary athlete policy in 2023. The policy was designed to expand access to the sport of fencing and create inclusive, safe spaces. The policy is based on the principle that everyone should have the ability to participate in sports and was based upon the research available of the day," the statement read.

"We respect the viewpoints on all sides and encourage our members to continue sharing them with us as the matter evolves. It's important for the fencing community to engage in this dialogue, but we expect this conversation to be conducted respectfully, whether at our tournaments or in online spaces. The way to progress is by respectful discussion based in evidence."

A USA Fencing spokesperson also told Fox News Digital that Turner was not penalized for her stance against trans inclusion, but simply for refusing to fence.

"In the case of Stephanie Turner, her disqualification was not related to any personal statement but was merely the direct result of her decision to decline to fence an eligible opponent, which the FIE rules clearly prohibit," the spokesperson said.

"According to the FIE (International Fencing Federation) Technical Rules, specifically Article t.113, a fencer is not permitted to refuse to fence another properly entered fencer for any reason. Under these rules, such a refusal results in disqualification and the corresponding sanctions. This policy exists to maintain fair competition standards and preserve the sport’s integrity."

Turner said she has not heard anything back from the organization since the incident.

It was an incident she had actively tried to avoid at prior events. Turner said she previously refused to enter multiple past fencing events that included other transgender fencers that she knew about. It's an issue that she made an effort to stay on top of for her own awareness and safety.

"In previous years when I had known about transgender fencers being present, I just wouldn't register, but for this one, Redmond must have signed up after me," Turner said.

"I was like, ‘You know what, I’m just going to give it to God. If this person shows up to my event and is on my script, then I would take a knee, and that would be God's will.'"

It was not a decision she came to lightly, however.

Turner paid close attention to the "protect women's sports" movement that has emerged in recent years, and the backlash and harassment faced by the women who took part in it. She recalled the story of Riley Gaines being held hostage and assaulted at San Francisco State University in April 2023.

The idea of the backlash haunted Turner, but wasn't enough to stop her from taking the knee.

"It will probably, at least for a moment, destroy my life. I don't think that it's going to be easy for me from now on going to fencing tournaments. I don't think it's going to be easy for me at practice," Turner said. "It's very hard for me to do this."

For Turner, one of the sacrifices she is most concerned about is impeding the friendships she has with people in the LGBT community, who she said don't currently know about her stance on the issue.

As a lifelong Democrat, Turner insists she never opposed LGBTQ people. But the issue of trans inclusion of women's sports has driven her away from supporting the party, and she now identifies as a "new Republican conservative."

"I voted red down the ticket this year," Turner said. "It was like waking up to the lies of the mainstream media… Just to watch so many of my friends have this glassy-eyed look while just defending this policy because their brains can not manage the possibility that their party or their position has been wrong on this, and perhaps this isn't a civil rights movement, and they have been misled."

Turner added that she fully supports President Donald Trump cutting funding to states that allow trans athletes to compete in women's and girls sports.

"Something needs to be done, and there are activists who have embedded themselves in authoritative positions in sports bodies."

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Troons have been remarkably successful at painting their activism as "gay rights 2.0" when in reality it is more akin to NAMBLA agitating for the right to rape children. This isn't a civil rights movement, it's an exhibitionist sexual fetish movement that we as a society have let get completely out of control.
NAMBLA (and similar groups) have been intertwined with gay rights from the start. As were troons. Homos literally clapped down on them back in the late 80s/90s to make the "movement" more appealing to normies. Nothing has been "co-opted", stop being delusional about how deviants truly are.
 
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The troon looks like fucking otto skorzeny, which is ironically hilarious considering how he got that large scar on his face. Fencing accident. Safety gear or no I wouldn't want to do any fencing with a male nutjob if I was a woman, that shit can fuck you up
It wasn't an accident, he got it in a specific kind of ''fencing'' called Mensur, which entire point was not to flinch an to get the scar, so everyone can see right away they studied at a Junker elite school. It went out of fashion since everyone and their dog tried to get ladies' attention this way, while not actually being nobility.
 
Fencing is gamified so much that it's just small arms jousts at this point so it seems like a non issue, but I suppose a man would be slightly more explosive at round start and be predisposed to longer average reach.
 
Can't PL too much because fencing is a very small community.

But good for her.
If you're in this world and you can answer without PL'ing, can you say what the general reaction has been in the women's (or general) fencing community?

Good on her. If all the women simply refused to cooperate then this would stop.
I've been saying this for years. The quickest way to put a stop to this would be the site of a loan dude in make-up running along a track by himself. But the female athletes all just keep on competing.
 
Good for her. It's hard to take a stand alone so I respect her courage in doing this. I hope this makes it easier for the next and then the next again. This is long overdue.

However, I have to say the symbolism of kneeling before him and her choice to say how much she loves and respects him is not something I can go along with. Would be better if she just silently turned her back on him. Though I get why she thinks a non-confrontational buttered up approach is safer / better. Still, if a literal swordswoman can't be direct and call such behavior out for the abuse it is, doesn't offer much hope for the rest of her sex.

Men can't really solve this. Same way it's difficult for us to step in and deal with an abuser when we know the victim will take his side.

Women are much less confrontational than men. It's part biology and part society but it's rare to see a woman take a stance the same way a man would when confronting another man. Women always have to consider the prospect of violence.
 
Women are much less confrontational than men. It's part biology and part society but it's rare to see a woman take a stance the same way a man would when confronting another man. Women always have to consider the prospect of violence.
Women are very confrontational when they think they can get away with it. See every gaggle of SJWs screaming at someone is mostly women, and a handful of soymales.
 
Women are much less confrontational than men. It's part biology and part society but it's rare to see a woman take a stance the same way a man would when confronting another man. Women always have to consider the prospect of violence.
I know. But they're supposed to be good at sticking together and cohesion. Where is the fucking solidarity and group action that could have put a stop to this?

Also, what @World Famous Quasi Payer just said.
 
People out there really going "men are just stronger than women" and simultaneously being like "this woman should've goaded the hell of this psycho holding a sword".

Being an objector is tricky because no one else is ever satisfied with the amount of risk you are taking but you.
100% this. You can see the way he glares at her and threatens her that it wouldn't have taken much to goad him into violence.
 
Good for her. It's hard to take a stand alone so I respect her courage in doing this. I hope this makes it easier for the next and then the next again. This is long overdue.

However, I have to say the symbolism of kneeling before him and her choice to say how much she loves and respects him is not something I can go along with. Would be better if she just silently turned her back on him. Though I get why she thinks a non-confrontational buttered up approach is safer / better. Still, if a literal swordswoman can't be direct and call such behavior out for the abuse it is, doesn't offer much hope for the rest of her sex.

Men can't really solve this. Same way it's difficult for us to step in and deal with an abuser when we know the victim will take his side.
Eh, I get it. She made her point but still comes across as nice. It makes the opposite side struggle to paint her as an evil transphobic Nazi. Sure, the troons will still froth at the mouth and call her transphobic, but normies and fence sitters won't see it that way.
I see it as a sportsmanship thing. Kneeling is probably the tactful way to protest while still trying to maintain respect for the competition and sport of it all. Being a sore loser and having a lil meltdown has gotten entire teams disqualified.
 
100% this. You can see the way he glares at her and threatens her that it wouldn't have taken much to goad him into violence.
Perfect, a tranny chimping out for all to see is the sort of "optics" you need at this point. Going "this ain't fair but oh glorious tranny that does the unfair action, you are stunning and brave" lacks a lot of impact.
 
Too bad her career is now essentially over. Since she's on her knees it's hard to get height, weight, and reach comparison between the two.
 
men and woman rarely fence each other (outside of practice) because as a man its very easy to accidentally hurt a woman due to strength differences. Trannys need to stop trying to get into sports.
We've known for centuries that men are bigger and stronger. It was simple common sense.

If you have a male body and decide to compete with women, you should be considered the loser cheat you would have been considered 10 years ago, run out of the sport and shamed until you got it through your head that you even if you're a mediocre male, you are still male.
 
Forgive the TikTok caption, but I found the video. Watch the yellow-bellied guy in the suit scamper off, then as soon as he's gone the opponent comes over to berate Stephanie.
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Daily mail has more stills
Stephanie's stats: https://fencingtracker.com/p/100173803/Stephanie-Turner
(Very hard to find a photo of Stephanie)

Redmond's stats: https://fencingtracker.com/p/100286459/Redmond-Sullivan
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He looks like a baldur's gate character but IRL.
 
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