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It's part of there whole theres no more faction war. Though from whats been datamined it seems we'll have some sort of Forsaken conflict. They have datamined Desolate Council tabards and repaired mask sylvanas tabards.
 
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Are they really getting that desperate for player engagement?
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Yes, sadly.

Player populations are so low the main conceit of the game has now been thrown out the window to cater to wannabe "hardcore" players butthurt about the other faction doing [raids, pvp, dungeon content, whatever] better than their faction

In other words, just like every change Blizzard has made in the last few years, it caters to the dumbest and most obnoxious players.
 
Found the tabards:
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And who is this "person" that they lost?
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Turnover at big studios is continual, whether it is through layoffs or people jumping to another studio for better compensation/breast milk/whatever. I have a lot of game devs on my socials and it's like every day there's a new announcement that's RT'd saying so and so is leaving [Studio] and joining [Other Game Studio.]

Oh god, he's a former TECH SUPPORT GUY who is now working as a producer:


Yeah, Blizzard is either bleeding talent worse than I thought if idiots like these are getting into producer roles or they really, really need to reevaluate how people get into the roles they get into. If this guy is making noise over par for the course shit and airing his grievances like this on public channels, he probably shouldn't be in a managerial or oversight role of any kind and should absolutely be thanking his lucky stars that DEI is protecting his Sodom and Gomorrah ass.
 
All you have to do is read what Metzen had to say around the time.

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Its honestly perplexing someone can create art/characters that were as interesting/striking as what early warcraft/wow had and create a quality game like early wow yet eventually turn into this.

There are a number of very good reasons why say Alexstrasza looked perfectly fine as she did in wotlk til df. But the fact this guy couldnt sit there and explain to his daughter WoW is content designed for adults and contains themes that she wont understand is wtf. Of course in reality the dude is just a fucking sell out and wanted a story to score woke points.
 
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Its honestly perplexing someone can create art/characters that were as interesting/striking as what early warcraft/wow had and create a quality game like early wow yet eventually turn into this.

There are a number of very good reasons why say Alexstrasza looked perfectly fine as she did in wotlk til df. But the fact this guy couldnt sit there and explain to his daughter WoW is content designed for adults and contains themes that she wont understand is wtf. Of course in reality the dude is just a fucking sell out and wanted a story to score woke points.
That story is so old, nowadays his daughter is probably exchanging BJs for X on a UC campus.

"Today my daughter came to me and asked me why Alexstraza didn't just tug off Deathwing for the Dragon Soul. I was like, 'I don't know, I don't know anymore.'"
 
What I don't understand, is why some people complained about the WFH policies at Blizzard ending, even though Blizzard said that WFH was only temporary.
Because WFH is massively easier to not be productive in - and a lot of Blizzard's staff likely like sitting home and goofing off then having any kind of oversight.

If they actually moved the game to where the dipshit forever war is over so people can play together I'm not sure it will fix anything. It's at least some form of development that isn't just constantly rehashing the same thing forever. Very thin silver lining to that particular cloud.
It would drastically improve the speed in which zones and quests are created - since they would no longer have to double the work to do full zones and quest lines that are <Faction> only.

You could also spend an expansion or two getting the Horde and Alliance into a "grand alliance" or introduce some threat that would force them to band together.

Its honestly perplexing someone can create art/characters that were as interesting/striking as what early warcraft/wow had and create a quality game like early wow yet eventually turn into this.

There are a number of very good reasons why say Alexstrasza looked perfectly fine as she did in wotlk til df. But the fact this guy couldnt sit there and explain to his daughter WoW is content designed for adults and contains themes that she wont understand is wtf. Of course in reality the dude is just a fucking sell out and wanted a story to score woke points.
Or just show her a picture of He Man, Conan the Barbarian, any of the thundercats, or any low fantasy character that wears not a lot of clothes. It's not that complicated. Dragons don't need to wear armor because they have scales.
 
It would drastically improve the speed in which zones and quests are created - since they would no longer have to double the work to do full zones and quest lines that are <Faction> only.

You could also spend an expansion or two getting the Horde and Alliance into a "grand alliance" or introduce some threat that would force them to band together.
I feel as if they'll simply squander this by once more slapping more arbitrary factions in as they've done in the past. All while also mailing in the rest of the content.
 
I feel as if they'll simply squander this by once more slapping more arbitrary factions in as they've done in the past. All while also mailing in the rest of the content.
Factions conceptually are fine.

Player factions are something they've been trying to design around and band-aid for nearly 8 years (Mercenary Mode, CF Raiding, CF Auction Houses, CF Dungeons, CF Hub Zones, and most recently CF Guilds) instead of just deciding on a course of action - which has been their design philosophy for the last decade.
 
i think that picture was posted earlier and i responded to it. my thoughts are the same as back then. edgy guy that used to love blood, violence and girls with big tits wearing scantly cloths, lost all his piss and vigor as soon as he settled down and got a family. but in Metz case is that plus turning to Christ, having a daughter and his wife cucking him with other girls, turning him to a washed up shell of a men. he's the kind of guy that thinks Kratos from the new god of war games is a great example of a father (HES JUST LIKE ME DAUGHTER! FRFR. NO CAP!).
Wasn't Metzen the guy who got so buck broken by his wife that he destroyed the SC2 storyline as he made it about Raynor wanting to fuck his ex, just like him, fr fr?

Are they really getting that desperate for player engagement?
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I wouldn't be surprised if their numbers are shit right now, because all of the usual WoW hype men, commonly known as the British Soy Squads, are talking about how the game hasn't recovered from Shadowlands and how people really need to give it a shot because it's totally worth it now that they introduced scalies. This is most likely because the drop off in interest in WoW their videos are only getting 50% of the views they did before which is hurting their shekels.


Yeah, Blizzard is either bleeding talent worse than I thought if idiots like these are getting into producer roles or they really, really need to reevaluate how people get into the roles they get into. If this guy is making noise over par for the course shit and airing his grievances like this on public channels, he probably shouldn't be in a managerial or oversight role of any kind and should absolutely be thanking his lucky stars that DEI is protecting his Sodom and Gomorrah ass.
I wouldn't really put too much stock into this being an indicator. I believe both Metzen and Ben Brode, were QA guys before eventually being promoted up in the company to leadership roles. The difference being was that back then talented people had less avenues for entry into the industry as it was a smaller industry and many worked their way up, but today if you can't get a job that's above QA or community manager, you're braindead retarded and should stay as a janny.
 
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today if you can't get a job that's above QA or community manager, you're braindead retarded and should stay as a janny.
it's worse today, they expect you to overwork yourself for shit pay unless you have someone in there that was indicated by an industry vet that can indicate you.
don't kid yourself with these AAA application forms, they are a mere formality so they can't be accused of incest, why the fuck do you think the incompetent wokey types are getting in high places to being with? it's not because they are talented...
 
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I wouldn't really put too much stock into this being an indicator. I believe both Metzen and Ben Brode, were QA guys before eventually being promoted up in the company to leadership roles. The difference being was that back then talented people had less avenues for entry into the industry as it was a smaller industry and many worked their way up, but today if you can't get a job that's above QA or community manager, you're braindead retarded and should stay as a janny.

I'm pretty sure Metzen was initially a concept artist/animator and grew into a wider and wider role because Blizzard was a smaller company back then (ie, he did a lot of voice work and other things, like writing/worldbuilding.)

Brode was in QA, ya, but he rapidly ascended because he was someone who was good at his role. Like, he was only in QA for a year, IIRC.

The retard I was talking about was in QA for literal years and his sudden promotion coincided around the time when the Blizzard Harassment shit came out and it really looks like a seniority bump and nothing really grounded in competency/whatever. Which happens in organizations all the time, but I'm curious if this is just a sort of treading water move until the Microsoft merger goes through and we're going to see a lot more soy golems standing in the unemployment line.

Blizzard has seen a lot of experienced/talented people leave over the past 4-5 years. The important thing here is the combination of experience and talent. There are still talented people that are still part of Blizzard, but they're being spread pretty thin, but the number of senior/experienced folks are diminishing. Hence why we're seeing fucking dragons in wheelchairs being presented as meaningful gameplay as opposed to, oh, I don't know, something actually interesting.

I know that there's been a bit of an experience/skill gap, but (and this is my speculation) it seems to be more egregious than what I had observed/heard.

I will freely admit that I am pretty negatively predisposed to Blizzard, though.

E: Also, generally, you need a far more robust skillset nowadays for game studios, particularly big ass ones like Acti-Blizz, so the sort of upward mobility you saw 20 years ago with guys like Brode or Alex Afrias (who was in healthcare/might've been a nurse before joining Blizzard) is less common.
 
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Wasn't Metzen the guy who got so buck broken by his wife that he destroyed the SC2 storyline as he made it about Raynor wanting to fuck his ex, just like him, fr fr?

Yes. Have you read her Twitter? It's her half of the time complaining about Trump, DeSantis, and MGT. Between rich leftist Democrat talking points. I challenge you, marry a Woman from California, live there for like 20 years, surrounded by them, and see if you come out the other end a broken shell of a Man.

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I challenge you, marry a Woman from California, live there for like 20 years, surrounded by them, and see if you come out the other end a broken shell of a Man.
I live in a bluer area and I can't even get through a full date with the vapid bitches around here before I want to off myself, there's no way I'd get close to 20 years.
 
I live in a bluer area and I can't even get through a full date with the vapid bitches around here before I want to off myself, there's no way I'd get close to 20 years.
come to brazil then faggot, if you aren't a sperg and can keep a conversation for more than 15 minutes then you'll do fine, having a job is a bonus.
 
what, it's not uncommon for certain men to cuck out once they get married and most of the times it's not even the woman's fault but it doesn't change the fact of her being a contributing factor as some women love "changing" their men in order to "tame the beast", then cuck said tamed beast because she's bored.
the fact that he has a daughter doesn't change much as the famous *hits pipe* thingy is accurate as fuck, many men with daughters become disconnected because they aren't women and don't know how to relate to their little princesses.
if only he had a son to counterbalance... nah he probably would still be a cuck.
it's not really about relation, I've seen a tendency of formerly "normal" dudes suddenly become soy-guzzling dipshits (long before that thing was even a concept) when their kid is still super young, like 6 and lower. can't really be about some disconnect or whatever (that comes way later usually). besides, it's said that daughters connect better to fathers (and vice versa for sons).

cba to look into it, but how old was metzen's daughter at that point exactly? because in the case of the battlefield cuck he went full retard after his daughter was born. apparently was on parental leave during the development of BFV, and while he didn't make up a complete fake dialog that totally happened, his reasoning was even more retarded:

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it was so dumb even fucking reddit made fun of it, the eternal swede strikes again.
and compared to all the super legit "my 6yo asked me why we're killing the planet for his generation" twitter hot takes, I can at least imagine a little kid seeing a chick with a midriff and confuse it with a bikini. same chick HE DESIGNED btw, but "looking good" isn't a valid explanation apparently.

Yes, sadly.

Player populations are so low the main conceit of the game has now been thrown out the window to cater to wannabe "hardcore" players butthurt about the other faction doing [raids, pvp, dungeon content, whatever] better than their faction

In other words, just like every change Blizzard has made in the last few years, it caters to the dumbest and most obnoxious players.
why is it always the people with the dumbest takes spreading their trashcans around?

it has been requested forever because there was no logical reason to limit the pool of players, which for raids btw are still per server, by literally half (unless they changed it, but I don't even wanna imagine how you're supposed to organize it, let alone handle it technically) - you know, the one thing blizzard actually puts effort in to the detriment of the whole game.
and if it wasn't a somewhat equal split and you had the joy of playing on a 90/10 server, how the fuck do you expect to run raids (which only a fraction of the playerbase does to begin with, even with all the focus of blizzard to get them in there) unless you're willing to reroll (lul) or transfer all your relevant characters for 20 bucks a pop?

inb4 MUH FACTION WAR - mercenary mode is a thing since WOD (which blizzard cribbed in their usual convoluted way from other games), and those games already figured out a way to handle it by limiting cross-faction to pve and guilds, it doesn't mean you can suddenly waltz into ogrimmar as a dwarf. neither technically nor lore-wise was there really a reason for it (enemy of my enemy is my friend, ffs even the fucking warcraft 3 intro alludes to it, it's the very first thing you see). it's a another relic blizzard lifted from EQ, then missed the memo and had no intention to change since they were fully aware the money it makes them.

that shit goes all the way back to vanilla, so much fun trying to explain some casual why he can't play or even talk with his friend playing another faction.
 
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