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Nah, WoD is still the worst expansion, it did have two patches but one of them was the notorious selfie patch.
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they justify it by "I just buy tokens lul", completely forgetting (or ignoring) that blizzshart gets even more money from those.
Titties + Blowjobs and a bit of asslicking here and there.
I'm on with the youtube dude that said this is literally Avengers - WoW Edition.
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I don't get people who claim Wrath "ruined" Artha's character.
"Oh, but he sounded like a Saturday morning cartoon villain!"
Yes, and it's fucking Warcraft, not Shakespeare or Game of Thrones. Saturday morning cartoon is what Warcraft does best. The harder they tried to tell a "compelling" and "deep" story, the harder they screwed up their lore. For fuck's sake, one of the playable races is spacegoats flying around in a crystal cathedral. Another is goofy hypertech inventors in an otherwise fantasy setting. Another is Native American cows, complete with "where's the beef?!" jokes.
Wrath was fine. Them trying to get "serious" with Cataclysm (and then completely fucking it up and making the entire expansion one huge chain of pop culture references) was them accelerating down the slope. Mists had a chance to capture some of the Warcraft whimsy, but then it went full bullshit at the end (really, a warcrimes trial? Just skewer his head on a pike already!) and led to Snorelords of Draenor.
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which already started in LK, not to mention the lich king literally getting killed by 25 randos.
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Yes, and the bits of Wrath that focused on the Lich King himself were just about the stupidest. The whole Matthias Lehner subplot was 90s Marvel comics-tier retarded, for example.
I cut them a tiny bit of slack on Arthas' defeat because it wasn't just 25 randos. It was 25 randos Arthas had, in true Saturday morning cartoon villain style, somehow planned to become his most powerful lieutenants, and he had just killed them all and was about to raise them as his slaves when Tirion Fordring initiated that now longstanding Warcraft tradition of NPCs stealing the show, and shattered Frostmourne. And here's where I cut them that tiny amount of slack: at least Tirion did it using the Ashbringer, aka The Legendary Sword in World of Warcraft. That was something I thought was interesting, and it gave the Ashbringer a complete arc.
Which they then proceeded to completely fuck over in Legion. Because of course they did.
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My main at the time was a tauren ret paladin.
Nothing is cooler than a dumb cow being a Highlord wielding the legendary Ashbringer. You just gotta lean into WoW lore being stupid as hell.
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Hmmm yes
This mmo works like an mmo
No, seriously, what the fuck is this argument? This is neither something unique to the lich king or any other point in the game.
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It all returns to nothing
It just keeps tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling doooooown.
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Also: apparently there's a mount that's only available during this anniversary event at a 1% drop rate that they just buffed to 100% when the Bobby shitstorm broke open.
It just keeps tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling doooooown.
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Also: apparently there's a mount that's only available during this anniversary event at a 1% drop rate that they just buffed to 100% when the Bobby shitstorm broke open.
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which then got topped off with "there must always be a lich king"
almost like the topic was about retarded shit that started in that expansion, and contrary to popular belief most mmos don't have this insane powercreep where you run around randomly killing gods and shit (because predictably you run out of shit to kill fast, which is is one of the reason WoW's lore is such a shitshow).
except he makes them money, so why should they care?
my main gripe with lich kangz n' shieet is that the lich king get rekt BUT there always must be a lich king for some stupid scourge reason?
like nigger you made us do that shit for literally nothing, they could have easily pulled him doing a dastardly and escaping it.
>kike makes them tons of money
>somehow it's supposed to be surprising that people wanting money will stand with the moneymaker
I donut get it.
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New event and of course it's a PVP one, something Alliance can't do.
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So here's something that'll really activate the almonds.
A while ago, I watched an anime called The Melody of Oblivion (absolutely batshit, what a trip). The plot is basically "group of heroes must defeat the organization of monsters that have taken over the world," and the monsters are led by, what else, a Monster King. During a flashback, it's revealed that a hero defeated the Monster King before, but upon doing so learned that without a king to lead them, the monsters would run rampant and destroy everything. Thus, he took up the mantle of Monster King to keep this from happening.
This anime aired in 2004, with the dub releasing in 2005/2006. ICC released at the end of 2009.
Am I saying that Blizzard ripped off a plot point from this random anime for the final cutscene of ICC? Not necessarily, but it's pretty damn funny how close the two scenes are. And considering how often they've "made homages" to other media, it's not beyond the realm of possibility. Hell, might even be a case of one of the writers trying to pass it off as original, figuring nobody would ever watch the anime and find out.
Just some food for thought.
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I'm pretty sure most people at the time thought Metzen had watched Pirates of the Carribbean 3 since it came out just a year or two before Wrath and ripped off "The Dutchman must always have a captain."
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That might be more likely than someone at Blizzard having seen a random anime that didn't get a wide distribution, but I found it interesting how the two paralleled each other so closely. Like, I had to reread a synopsis of the third Pirates movie, but in that it was just "if you stab Davy Jones's heart then you're the captain now." Nothing about the pirates going berserk, just a simple curse of "haha now you're stuck here." Compare with WotLK and Melody of Oblivion, where both explicitly state there must always be a Lich/Monster King so the Scourge/Monsters don't rampage and kill everything.
Again, it's either a funny coincidence or some weeb figured nobody would ever watch that show so they were free to rip it off wholesale. More likely the former, though I'd love to find out the latter was true, just to see how the community at large would react.
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Nah fam, didn’t you hear Danuser? It was all carefully planned during Warcraft 3 development. There had to always be a Lich King so he could seat on his ass for 10 years until Sylvanas decided to show up and make him her bitch as part of the huge millennia spanning plan thought up by villain nobody heard about until recently.
On more serious note, I don’t think it’s necessarily ripping off another property. I think Blizzard could come up with it independently just to preserve scourge for the future plotlines. During early days of WoW blizzard didn’t really plan too much ahead (see TBC “lore”) and probably didn’t expect a game to go so strong for as long as it did. When they were approaching the end of WotLK someone came to the realisation that this shit can still be milked for huge $ and in two expansions they killed off two most iconic characters and were about to end one of greatest threats to Azeroth. So, in panic mode they decided to keep the scourge to keep fans’ interest.
And it was kind of working in this context. Anytime new expansion was going to be announced people dropped “Wrath of the Lich King 2” or “Wrath of the Lich Queen” in their speculation. There was a lot of excitement when Bolvar finally started doing something in the Legion. I stopped following the game outisde this forum and occasional youtube videos that show up in my Youtube reccomendations early in the "Battle for Azeroth" but I assume that Lich Kings appearance in Shadowlands got strong reaction from community as well.
On more serious note, I don’t think it’s necessarily ripping off another property. I think Blizzard could come up with it independently just to preserve scourge for the future plotlines. During early days of WoW blizzard didn’t really plan too much ahead (see TBC “lore”) and probably didn’t expect a game to go so strong for as long as it did. When they were approaching the end of WotLK someone came to the realisation that this shit can still be milked for huge $ and in two expansions they killed off two most iconic characters and were about to end one of greatest threats to Azeroth. So, in panic mode they decided to keep the scourge to keep fans’ interest.
And it was kind of working in this context. Anytime new expansion was going to be announced people dropped “Wrath of the Lich King 2” or “Wrath of the Lich Queen” in their speculation. There was a lot of excitement when Bolvar finally started doing something in the Legion. I stopped following the game outisde this forum and occasional youtube videos that show up in my Youtube reccomendations early in the "Battle for Azeroth" but I assume that Lich Kings appearance in Shadowlands got strong reaction from community as well.
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To be fair, a lot of what Metzen cooked up was basically appropriating stuff from other media. A lot of Warcraft was inspired by Dragonlance, for example (up to and including the fact an event that reshaped the world was referred to as 'the Cataclysm' in both) and is something that Metzen freely admits to (D&D also being where some of the stuff with Paladins originates from, like Lay on Hands and them getting a mount.)
There's other shit, too. Like the name and inspiration for JIm Raynor from Starcraft comes from a not particularly well-known 1991 film ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_(1991_film) )
I don't think the OG Blizzard guys were particularly big into anime -- their influences tended to predate the anime 'boom' that came in the 90s, and I feel it shows with a lot of their references, general art style (which tends to be more inspired by North American fantasy artists like Larry Elmore et al. or the Games Workshop folks) Most of the stuff someone would consider to be weeb shit tends to stem from Samurai Shodown.