Would "gender-neutral" language actually catch on?

Hoopla said:
Independently of whether gender-neutral language makes sence or not, I'm just too lazy to change my language.
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Tongues with grammatical gender like French, Russian, Arabic etc. would have to be completely rearranged. One's native tongue is imprinted in early childhood and serves as some kind of operating system for the mind. For people in older adulthood it is already hard to learn a foreign language, wanting them to re-learn core parts of their native tongue is impossible, literally Orwellian, plain retarded and arguably, kind of racist.
 
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Honestly in America outside of extreme Blue states I doubt it.

...I really hope this gender shit is just a stupid fad that will die in a decade or two like scene kids.
 
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CheezzyMach said:
Honestly in America outside of extreme Blue states I doubt it.

...I really hope this gender shit is just a stupid fad that will die in a decade or two like scene kids.
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Its sad that I remember when it wasn't a thing, as far back as 2012 I had never heard of any of this bullshit, I am fully aware now that its was fermenting in the bowls of Tumblr at the time. If anyone at the time had told me half the things that exist today will be a thing I would of laughed and said they're either high or a doomsday prophet.
 
Easterling said:
Its sad that I remember when it wasn't a thing, as far back as 2012 I had never heard of any of this bullshit, I am fully aware now that its was fermenting in the bowls of Tumblr at the time. If anyone at the time had told me half the things that exist today will be a thing I would of laughed and said they're either high or a doomsday prophet.
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We didn't get flying cars and artificial intelligence but we did get troons. Fuck you, futurists. I demand a refund.
 
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Mainstream society will not accept it. Not only is it useless, but extremely hard to do in everyday conversation unless you heavily censored yourself. It's useless because it makes no sense. Calling something "man-made" doesn't exclude woman you fucking moron. I am surprised they didn't go "humxn-made" instead.

At least newspeak in 1984 supposedly made it "simpler and simpler" to speak to others while only talking about things that are considered good by The Party. This shit just further complicates things and shows to people how utterly insane and all-consuming a topic like gender must be to these people.
 
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ZeCommissar said:
Mainstream society will not accept it. Not only is it useless, but extremely hard to do in everyday conversation unless you heavily censored yourself. It's useless because it makes no sense. Calling something "man-made" doesn't exclude woman you fucking moron. I am surprised they didn't go "humxn-made" instead. Man-kind

At least newspeak in 1984 supposedly made it "simpler and simpler" to speak to others while only talking about things that are considered good by The Party. This shit just further complicates things and shows to people how utterly insane and all-consuming a topic like gender must be to these people.
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It's actually pretty easy to use gender neutral language in most contexts and many workplaces have style manuals that specify how to do it. It's a lot more difficult to factually eliminate gender entirely. However, most places that have style manuals for written communications are also fairly conservative and aren't going to go for bullshit like they as a singular, much less pronouns some tumblrina made up yesterday.

SJWs also don't want gender neutral language, they want to insert their weird bullshit into everything and eliminate any kind of speech that even acknowledges that gender actually exists.
 
Here in Germany, outside of "academic" circles? Absolutely no. If you're at university, it's basically compulsory nowadays though.
Turns out the average Joe hates it and refuses to use it and there has been at least one large petition spearhaded by dozens of professors and doctors against it, again proving how disconnected from reality these so-called "academic" circles are nowadays. Who would've thought? It's blind and fanatical ideologues and no one else pushing for this.
 
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nfys nst said:
Here in Germany, outside of "academic" circles? Absolutely no. If you're at university, it's basically compulsory nowadays though.
Turns out the average Joe hates it and refuses to use it and there has been at least one large petition spearhaded by dozens of professors and doctors against it, again proving how disconnected from reality these so-called "academic" circles are nowadays. Who would've thought? It's blind and fanatical ideologues and no one else pushing for this.
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It's always encouraging to hear from inhabitants of so called "lost to liberal insanity" places that ultra PC shit is absolutely despised there.
 
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i mean it does not really make a diffence. I would not really care, and surely you would online need to use these words in legal stuff
 
nfys nst said:
Here in Germany, outside of "academic" circles?

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It's blind and fanatical ideologues and no one else pushing for this.
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Sounds like Germany in a nutshell.

Though, how is "gender-neutral" speech even possible in German? Since genders are closely related to cases and also create important congruency, all of German grammar would collapse like the Wehrmacht after the Battle of Berlin, if one tries to remove noun genders.

CheezzyMach said:
It's always encouraging to hear from inhabitants of so called "lost to liberal insanity" places that ultra PC shit is absolutely despised there.
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This is how the SJW movement will die, by being so retarded and fanatical that they'll cause backlashes. Of course, people don't want to take commands from anybody on how to talk!
 
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Vrakks said:
Yeah, male-assuming documents aren't evil and rights-infringing but they do seem a bit backwards. I think pronouns etc. should be neutral if there's uncertainty about gender, but beyond that there's no point. That is THE use case for neutral pronouns, when you don't know/care about the gender you're referring to.
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Thing is, why are people complaining about it now? I mean, I've heard "firefighter" and "meter reader" since the 80s, and using "they" when you don't know about someone's gender and all, etc. It just seems a little late to be all up in arms about it.

Language changes all the time, and I think this is just one of those examples, not PC run amuck. (SOME of it sounds silly, but for the most part, it's really much ado about nothing)

Unlike the crap from Colorado State.
 
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Autocrat said:
I'm hoping there is a backlash before it is fully normalized.
I live in an ultra-liberal area. I can tell you, people fucking hate eachother here. I recently took a trip to Colorado Springs, CO and oh my god, it was like a breath of fresh air. There is a vibe in a community, and the vibe felt like a warm sanity.
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Yup, it seems like any liberal community is just full of pent-up people looking for any reason at all to throw each other under the bus for gud boi points. No sense of community or companionship, just a shitload of cutthroat chicanery.

I hope you can move away from there.
 
They tried a much tamer version of this in the 90s and everyone laughed and it never caught on. Like, I still hear more people say something like "the mailman was here, she brought an Amazon package" than "Karen is our Letter Carrier." They even had a retarded gender neutral version of waiter/waitress that I remember everyone mocked, "waitron." I still hear "waitress" all the time. I don't think this conceited, fake bullshit ever stands much of a chance of getting into the every day speech of normal people, though they might use the PC terms at work if they are forced to.
 
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Yup, it seems like any liberal community is just full of pent-up people looking for any reason at all to throw each other under the bus for gud boi points. No sense of community or companionship, just a shitload of cutthroat chicanery.
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Maybe that is the mentality of all people who are into politics? Hm...

Lissamine Green said:
They even had a exceptional gender neutral version of waiter/waitress that I remember everyone mocked, "waitron." I still hear "waitress" all the time.
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'Waitron' may be used in the future, when robots will serve the food in restaurants, because that literally sounds like a name straight out of Transformers.
 
Everyone voicing their skepticism is wrong. Of course it will catch on. Kids are taught from young age that's the right word to use and to laugh and sneer at old sexist people who want to say anything else than colleagiate greek residence. What kind of sexist says fraternity?

And at some point the old people who know better (thats us) will die and the world will be glad to be rid of those old sexist folk.
 
I don't really believe that it could catch on in normal day-to-day communications. In formal instances perhaps, but I don't really care as my native language is such that it basically has no gendered words at all, which is a great annoyance to our domestic SJWs. Apart from that:

"Sorority, Fraternity = Collegiate Greek system residence"

Yeah, I can surely see this one catch wind.
 
Uncanny Valley said:
No because it's clunky as all hell.
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More or less this. I have a friend who refers to everyone as 'they', because he's a couch potato that never leaves his tiny niche of the internet, which is loaded with troons. It's really annoying, because I never know exactly who he's referring to.

Another reason it'll die out, is because fags and trannies don't reproduce. It'll literally die with them.
 
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