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Nothing new under the sun. Younger kids did worse shit in the 60's, google the deaths of Sylvia Likens or Florence Little.
Wtf is wrong with zoomers? - An analysis
- Thread starter Laura Loomer
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You've also described half the farms.
feedtheoctopus
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Millennials didn't ruin the 2010's, wall street did. Although this is a pretty dumb argument anyway, if you're in your mid 20s the cultural difference between you and most millennials is pretty much zero.
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These zoomers are retarded, they've been raised by the internet. Look at where it got CWC. They use the same account name for everything so they can broadcast their achievements, or get their attention validated so anyone can go online and with google find out nearly everything about them.
When I was a younger, we tried to stay anonymous, using obscure account names, signing up with obscure emails like stupidkid69420@hotmail.com, not MyFullLegalName@gmail.com, and then linking your entire identity to social media, reddit/instagram/facebook/twitter/snapchat whatever. You didn't want strangers and the entire world to be able to peer into your life whenever they wanted.
When I was a younger, we tried to stay anonymous, using obscure account names, signing up with obscure emails like stupidkid69420@hotmail.com, not MyFullLegalName@gmail.com, and then linking your entire identity to social media, reddit/instagram/facebook/twitter/snapchat whatever. You didn't want strangers and the entire world to be able to peer into your life whenever they wanted.
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I do love Diogenes. Two fave stories, one of which at least is prov fake, but both still classics:
One day, Diogenes was spotted in town walking around in broad daylight with a lit lantern. Eventually, the authorities approached him, to make sure he wasn't plotting something or a harm to anyone important. he said, "I am looking for an honest man!"
Diogenes was basking in the sun one day when Alexander the Great happened upon him. Alexander asked Diogenes, "if I could give you any one thing in the world, what would you choose?". Diogenes looked at the mighty emperor in the eyes and replied, "for you to move out of the sun, you are creating a shade".
Never mind he lived in a barrel, didn't wear clothes, shat in a bucket, pretended to be a chicken, he was the best troll to ever exist. Bella wishes she could be Diogenes. She smells like him.
feedtheoctopus
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The original crustie
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Like others have said, it's not about a whole or majority of a generation being fucked up; every generation has its portion of fuckups and sickos. Marquis de Sade, for example. The difference is, we didn't have the Internet to catalogue all those people before.
As for why Zoomers like Bella who are terminally online are also terminally retarded at proper Internet usage-smartphones. Smartphones, tablets and Macbooks. Tech has gotten massively dumbed down to appeal to the average consumer, to the extent that little kids can easily access it. These kids also grew up with Tumblr and Twitter and not forums like this site, so they have no idea how or why to remain truly anonymous. (Though, I would like to point out that the Paranoid's Bible has been on Tumblr for years, so this might be an average joe vs knowledgeable dweeb thing like it was for Millennials and Gen X)
There's also the fact that Bella is probably actually borderline retarded, and definitely doesn't come close to representing the average member of her generation.
As for why Zoomers like Bella who are terminally online are also terminally retarded at proper Internet usage-smartphones. Smartphones, tablets and Macbooks. Tech has gotten massively dumbed down to appeal to the average consumer, to the extent that little kids can easily access it. These kids also grew up with Tumblr and Twitter and not forums like this site, so they have no idea how or why to remain truly anonymous. (Though, I would like to point out that the Paranoid's Bible has been on Tumblr for years, so this might be an average joe vs knowledgeable dweeb thing like it was for Millennials and Gen X)
There's also the fact that Bella is probably actually borderline retarded, and definitely doesn't come close to representing the average member of her generation.
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Diogenes was a living saint so not neither lol.
Exactly, Socrates thought he was a special snowflake and nobody could ever possibly be as smart as he was.
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This may be the most dispiriting thing about this whole fiasco, to me. At least those of us raised on the computers of the 90s and 2000s actually got some IT skills out of it.
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I can't believe they discussed lying to the police, to their school and to the FBI on discord. Some just staggering stupidity and feeling of invunerability there. She is doing modules on her course about cybersec. Her dad works in cybersecurity and both her other paremts have some sort of gov or military affiliation. Mike said he doesn't even let his daughter use google... what the heck, bro?
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They are mentally ill weirdos that grew up in a post 9/11 clown world. Most were raised on internet culture. They surround themselves with and obsess over certain kinds media.
Butch Manley
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They're the first generation to grow up on the internet. They have been immersed in social media and "internet culture" with all the stupidity and cruelty that entails, not to mention being exposed to the most graphic and demented pornography ever created, since they were infants. We shouldn't be surprised by their warped minds and apparent lack of intelligence.
UzumakiLeaf
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Honestly the ultimate comeback to the "OK, boomer" meme is "OK, Zoomer".
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A solid chunk of zoomers, both male and female, are extremely sex obsessed. You have zoomers from 13-18 already into shit like scat fetishism all due to the insane nature of the internet and unrestricted access. Combine that with the type of stuff that is shown on TV nowadays, the insanity of clown world, political shitflinging, and overall online-cultish behavior and you have a group of newly budding kids who are growing up to be monsters. If not monsters or deviants, they feel utter total nihilism and hopelessness.
Donaldo
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They need to spend more time in the basement and less time socializing and abusing animals. Maybe if they wasted their weekends reading CWCki and actually learning about internet culture they could appreciate it and learn how to properly cover their tracks and avoid making the same mistakes like countless others.
Instead they would rather post TRANNYY!!! and chonkers memes on le reddit and plan harassment and abuse in discord.
Instead they would rather post TRANNYY!!! and chonkers memes on le reddit and plan harassment and abuse in discord.
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Agree but I'd say they're the first generation to grow up on the current internet i.e. web 2.0. I had a 14k modem as a fetus, feel like growing up with (alongside) the internet provided an actual perspective on the current social media culture children are now born into.
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I grew up on the internet in its earlier days when I was very young. I actually mean that I grew up with it though, as father was and still is a techie and pretty early adopter.
I think that the biggest contrast is that the online world and the meat space used to be more separated from eachother. Other posters have talked about this here, and I am forced to agree, internet etiquette developed initially from a time where access to the web for most people was more difficult and it was more of a thing that you had to go out of your way to access. The internet was a destination or activity, something you had to go into a computer room to actually access, and it wasn't constantly around you.
You had a lot of nerds and people with too much spare time who gravitated around activities that you couldn't do in real life, because there was little opportunity to do so in your town. There was good and bad with that (not going to get into the illegal side of things there), but a lot of nerdy people found outlets on here and were able to thrive. The separation of the online world and the real world is really what defined the old internet to me. I know that with my parents, they also limited my family's leisurely access to the web to weekends primarily.
There was the understanding that your life in person wasn't the most important thing. Forums were dedicated around hobbies, chatting with people about things that you were interested in, and there wern't really many e-celebrities.
I think that social media and e-celebs are what changed things online (especially in the late 2000s). General access of more and more people allowed the internet to change, but that merger of the meatspace and cyberspace is what really changed the internet. The old norms of "you don't power level" were out the window. Hobby spaces were less the dominant sphere of the internet and it switched over to social media sites.
During the early web, access was limited due to hardware, and software (websites) operated differently as well. The hardware is self explanatory, and for the software, while it used to be that you had thousands of different webpages, forums, or entire websites- each with their own rules, norms, crowds of regulars, and special flavors, you had to find a community and abide by its rules or be booted. You had variety, with different communities and different rules, but tards were still wrangled by their site admins, or they just found another website with rules that they liked. Now, with the web being congregated around maybe 6 or 7 sites total, the variety is just lacking, and ability of other ideas to flourish is limited. The internet seems a lot more sanitized than it was before, and centralized.
With zoomers, you have a generation that doesn't really remember (due to being far too young) or was never even exposed to the old web. To zoomers, the real world and online world are inseparable. Fame online can translate to fame in real life, sure. Watching zoomers is like watching a group of people who never grew up outside of highschool constantly searching for more likes and more validation online.
I think that some people can handle that, and others can't. If you have the like-dislike feature built into online infrastructure, it does affect your behavior, its a big reason as to why I hate seeing it on any site. When you look at ILJ, you can see how it's affected her in ways. She seeks edgy behavior out, seeks out validation from her weens, and otherwise just seems trapped in that cycle. Some of the stuff in her discord is her bragging/faked, I'm sure. Some of it is probably exaggerated. Much of it paints a picture of a very empty person, boisterous, but hollowed. The things that are real are the manipulation, the indifference to others, the not caring about harming others as long as it brings the attention to herself, regardless and even reveling in the consequences of harm as "look at me, I'm the grandest edgelord".
She's a child, is manchild appropriate here? Stunted in personality, lacking, sad, terrifying in her own ways, disappointing, and one who has harmed others and not been punished. Shes not as dumb as Chris, but I honestly think that she has some similar narcissists tendencies.
There's a lot thats wrong with zoomers, but the lack of separation between the online and real world I think is one of the most damaging things, especially over here with ILJ.
I think that the biggest contrast is that the online world and the meat space used to be more separated from eachother. Other posters have talked about this here, and I am forced to agree, internet etiquette developed initially from a time where access to the web for most people was more difficult and it was more of a thing that you had to go out of your way to access. The internet was a destination or activity, something you had to go into a computer room to actually access, and it wasn't constantly around you.
You had a lot of nerds and people with too much spare time who gravitated around activities that you couldn't do in real life, because there was little opportunity to do so in your town. There was good and bad with that (not going to get into the illegal side of things there), but a lot of nerdy people found outlets on here and were able to thrive. The separation of the online world and the real world is really what defined the old internet to me. I know that with my parents, they also limited my family's leisurely access to the web to weekends primarily.
There was the understanding that your life in person wasn't the most important thing. Forums were dedicated around hobbies, chatting with people about things that you were interested in, and there wern't really many e-celebrities.
I think that social media and e-celebs are what changed things online (especially in the late 2000s). General access of more and more people allowed the internet to change, but that merger of the meatspace and cyberspace is what really changed the internet. The old norms of "you don't power level" were out the window. Hobby spaces were less the dominant sphere of the internet and it switched over to social media sites.
During the early web, access was limited due to hardware, and software (websites) operated differently as well. The hardware is self explanatory, and for the software, while it used to be that you had thousands of different webpages, forums, or entire websites- each with their own rules, norms, crowds of regulars, and special flavors, you had to find a community and abide by its rules or be booted. You had variety, with different communities and different rules, but tards were still wrangled by their site admins, or they just found another website with rules that they liked. Now, with the web being congregated around maybe 6 or 7 sites total, the variety is just lacking, and ability of other ideas to flourish is limited. The internet seems a lot more sanitized than it was before, and centralized.
With zoomers, you have a generation that doesn't really remember (due to being far too young) or was never even exposed to the old web. To zoomers, the real world and online world are inseparable. Fame online can translate to fame in real life, sure. Watching zoomers is like watching a group of people who never grew up outside of highschool constantly searching for more likes and more validation online.
I think that some people can handle that, and others can't. If you have the like-dislike feature built into online infrastructure, it does affect your behavior, its a big reason as to why I hate seeing it on any site. When you look at ILJ, you can see how it's affected her in ways. She seeks edgy behavior out, seeks out validation from her weens, and otherwise just seems trapped in that cycle. Some of the stuff in her discord is her bragging/faked, I'm sure. Some of it is probably exaggerated. Much of it paints a picture of a very empty person, boisterous, but hollowed. The things that are real are the manipulation, the indifference to others, the not caring about harming others as long as it brings the attention to herself, regardless and even reveling in the consequences of harm as "look at me, I'm the grandest edgelord".
She's a child, is manchild appropriate here? Stunted in personality, lacking, sad, terrifying in her own ways, disappointing, and one who has harmed others and not been punished. Shes not as dumb as Chris, but I honestly think that she has some similar narcissists tendencies.
There's a lot thats wrong with zoomers, but the lack of separation between the online and real world I think is one of the most damaging things, especially over here with ILJ.
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Agree that every generation has morons but the proportions are not the same. There are a higher percentage of complacent cable news rotted Boomers ('why cant you just buy your house and diploma for 5 dollars like I did!') There are a higher percentage of neocalvinist extreme-poseur Zoomers. They are viewed as both being the nutty opposite wings of two utterly intellectually bankrupt sides of a cultural divide by everyone else. Of course, the irony is there is one core major thing that ties the boomers and zoomers together: obsession with culture war and disregard for (far more impactful) structural, material, and international issues. 1968 meet 2020. As we know from the past, ruling elites love culture war dupes as it keeps critical attention off of them, their bank accounts, and the long term policies they enact that don't grab the headlines as much. The Zoomers will end up in the same place as the Boomers too, with their children simply longing for them to shuffle off so real change can happen. ''You already told us the story about how you combatted problematic thought crime and made sure only Disney was allowed to make movies, Grandxhir."
But lets be real, the main place that has objectively gotten dumber and more insufferable is the internet specifically. And this is made worse by zoomers (and boomers finally figuring out how to use it as yet another place they can loudly pledge allegiance to Applebees and Israel or whatever they do) now, but this process began with millennials. I really feel like the Mayan Long Count bullshit actually turned out to be true if you take it as talking about the death of the internet specifically. 2012 saw the birth of weaponized virtue signaling (Kony 2012, Upworthy, Sophie Labelle style woke listicles, etc) as well as its equally bad MRA/alt right backlash. This means younger Millennials bear first responsibility for killing off the fun free wheeling web of 1996-2011 and bringing us the hellscape of today. The one Zoomers grew up in. The web that is no longer a counter culture but a greater extension of the overall omniculture. They reflect that. Just as @DiscoRodeo says above. I am so so thankful I didnt have a social media account until I was 20of any kind and before that point only used the internet for gaming, Jstor, and email. I genuinely feel bad for people who never had that separate counter-culture mode of the internet experience.
Im a Millennial, but there is a reason I always thought Gen X was the cool one and ended up absorbing most of their cultural tastes. Though, as we are finding out, they probably werent the best parents. I would hope we could do better but dumbfuck twee Wes Anderson loving Millennials keep burning down entire forests for gender reveal parties.
But lets be real, the main place that has objectively gotten dumber and more insufferable is the internet specifically. And this is made worse by zoomers (and boomers finally figuring out how to use it as yet another place they can loudly pledge allegiance to Applebees and Israel or whatever they do) now, but this process began with millennials. I really feel like the Mayan Long Count bullshit actually turned out to be true if you take it as talking about the death of the internet specifically. 2012 saw the birth of weaponized virtue signaling (Kony 2012, Upworthy, Sophie Labelle style woke listicles, etc) as well as its equally bad MRA/alt right backlash. This means younger Millennials bear first responsibility for killing off the fun free wheeling web of 1996-2011 and bringing us the hellscape of today. The one Zoomers grew up in. The web that is no longer a counter culture but a greater extension of the overall omniculture. They reflect that. Just as @DiscoRodeo says above. I am so so thankful I didnt have a social media account until I was 20of any kind and before that point only used the internet for gaming, Jstor, and email. I genuinely feel bad for people who never had that separate counter-culture mode of the internet experience.
Im a Millennial, but there is a reason I always thought Gen X was the cool one and ended up absorbing most of their cultural tastes. Though, as we are finding out, they probably werent the best parents. I would hope we could do better but dumbfuck twee Wes Anderson loving Millennials keep burning down entire forests for gender reveal parties.
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ITT we judge an entire generation based on one person's rampant sociopathic sperging