WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

Well, with the 'admission' (which really is just a filet of truth now wrapped with even more lies) that DSP is DftR on WWE:C, how will this affect hustling in the L-B-C for the D-O double-G?

The fact that the canon behind DSP's play history and accounts on a match-3 wrestling money sink might necessitate Primer level documentation to explain how this retard burnt through at least the annual gross for a min-wage worker in California aside, am I to really believe that this fat retard has another WWE:C account besides DftR and the account he plays on his stream?
 
Self Felted Felt said:
Had to register to share. I occasionally check the DftR account activity here . On 8/24, the stupid Ghostbusters Hogan was the #1 card on Down from the Rafters' roster. A few days later, Phil changed top roster completely before all of the WWEC on-stream stuff. Just putting it out there, guy loves Ghostbusters and would know to any sharp-eyed detractor this is an obvious tell and more scrutiny was coming
Edit: The ghostbuster hogan is back. My theory is ruined don't know what to think now
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No, this is because in his roster, he has a pool of >5 wrestlers that have been maxed (38989 points).

So the website rotates between those randomly.
nearbycoral said:
Are you going to request a public apology from pigroach?
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No.

He can apologize to his fanbase for being a lying scammer all these years on his own.
porkypork99 said:
so phil spent 250-300k on mobile game in the last decade?
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That's an overestimate.

It's safe to say that it's >100000 dollars. Some time ago I compiled a bunch of TJ posts, and the absolute minimum was around the 90K mark, realistically, it should be much higher, well into the 100K, but 250K is unsupported I believe.
 
We Are The Witches said:
No, this is because in his roster, he has a pool of >5 wrestlers that have been maxed (38989 points).

So the website rotates between those randomly.

No.

He can apologize to his fanbase for being a lying scammer all these years on his own.

That's an overestimate.

It's safe to say that it's >100000 dollars. Some time ago I compiled a bunch of TJ posts, and the absolute minimum was around the 90K mark, realistically, it should me much higher, well into the 100K, but 250K is unsupported I believe.
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the 100k is only for wwec, he played other games before...also the estimate was more than 150k for wwec alone.
 
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The one thing about selling the account that makes me believe it (not saying he did, I give that scenario ~1% odds), is that it would be the most stupid + greedy thing to do. It's exactly something DSP would do: "Oh no, I need to get rid of this account, the detractors are staaaalking meeee REEEE, but what about all the money I invested in it???" - not thinking it through that now people would track the account still believing it's him. Since he claims he still plays the game on his 'personal' new account, there's literally ZERO upside to selling the old one.

If it were anyone BUT Phil, the stupidity of such a move would be enough to discredit this stupid excuse. Why would he sell it?
 
porkypork99 said:
so phil spent 250-300k on mobile game in the last decade? I can understand a 18 year old doing that but guy is 42????? when do you say enough is enough???wtf is wrong with his wife not to say anything????is it why pandalee left him????
lets do some basic math here.
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He fucked up with this reveal. He wants people to think that the supposed person who is currently spending massively on his account isn't him, but prior to selling his account, people already proved the account had spent hundreds of thousands!
 
Kino Crayon Eaters swallowing loads of Copeiods right now.
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BallBuster said:
Interesting little guide. Again I apologize if this was posted earlier.

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So it looks like the $10,000 estimate is way too low. Considering he looks like he is close to VIP 13, we are talking closer to $40,000 possibly.
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iNEEDthatMoney said:
He fucked up with this reveal. He wants people to think that the supposed person who is currently spending massively on his account isn't him, but prior to selling his account, people already proved the account had spent hundreds of thousands!
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That's a massive overestimate.

I came up with the $40,000 estimate in January of 2020. At that point, it was the bare minimum he would have had to spend to get to VIP 13. Based on his average monthly spending habits on the game since then, my current estimate of money spent on this account is roughly $140,000, give or take maybe 10k.
 
Hectic Heckler said:
What would surprise me is that, when the new whale spends money for the first time after buying the account, the name on the credit card/paypal account/whatever won't match the original buyer/account holder, and a giant red flag could be found from that, causing the account to be locked/suspended immediately. Are there no checks for past/future in-game purchases by name?
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That was my thought as well. I know nothing about these games so this is all speculation but if scopely has to lockdown the selling/buying of accounts, wouldn't an account logging into a new device, in a new location, with a new payment method, be pretty easy to detect? I would guess at a minimum to successfully transfer an account to someone else, the new person would need your physical device and email account to avoid being caught.
 
Coke Zero said:
That was my thought as well. I know nothing about these games so this is all speculation but if scopely has to lockdown the selling/buying of accounts, wouldn't an account logging into a new device, in a new location, with a new payment method, be pretty easy to detect? I would guess at a minimum to successfully transfer an account to someone else, the new person would need your physical device and email account to avoid being caught.
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Yes, and these companies hire people specifically for this purpose. Hence why I say, if DownFromTheRafters isn't banned like today, Phil is lying.
 
I doubt gacha games care if accounts are being sold. Especially if it’s to another whale. zThe majority of gacha profits come from the top 1% of players.

Although it is against TOS, they dont seem to enforce it. I remember this being fairly common with summoners war and I never saw anyone banned.

I think the biggest point would be to find out how exactly Phil bound his account in case a recovery was needed. No one would spend hundreds or potentially thousands of dollars on an account that could be easily recovered by the original owner. Either Phil is lying or he had to give the buyer his personal email.
 
porkypork99 said:
also the estimate was more than 150k for wwec alone
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You're right, although that's only done by taking a look at the last 2.5 years and then extrapolating it to 7 years. As of late January 2024, according to the documented TJ's posts, for 2.5 years of data:

- 38976$ (VIP) + 46351$ (TJ's posts) = 85327$ (lower-end of absolute minimum)
- 38976$ (VIP) + 49979$ (TJ's posts) = 88955$ (higher-end of absolute minimum)

So for all time, an estimated of 168758$ on the lower end (by ignoring a slight potential overlap). I still would not be confident to speculate 250K or more by adding Supercard, Dokkan, etc.
 
Whirlgimp said:
I doubt gacha games care if accounts are being sold. Especially if it’s to another whale. zThe majority of gacha profits come from the top 1% of players.

Although it is against TOS, they dont seem to enforce it. I remember this being fairly common with summoners war and I never saw anyone banned.

I think the biggest point would be to find out how exactly Phil bound his account in case a recovery was needed. No one would spend hundreds or potentially thousands of dollars on an account that could be easily recovered by the original owner. Either Phil is lying or he had to give the buyer his personal email.
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They absolutely care. Accounts on Dokkan Battle regularly get banned for being bought. Final Fantasy Record Keeper was another game that didn't tolerate that crap either.
 
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"This game has been around for 7 years. Do you know how long it would take for an account that just started to try to catch up with an account that I played for 7 years?"
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Yup. He always tells on himself. He straight up says his other personal account is the mega whaled-out account and that he's been playing on that account for "7+ years", because he hadn't come up with his new lie yet. If his lie were the truth his other account would be 'an account I've had for a couple years and barely spent on and only played casually less and less'. This stream is from before he thought of the 'I sold the account years ago' lie and started posting screenshots of DFTR while drunk that you can only get while logged-in on your own account.

To believe this new lie you have to believe that he saved in-game screenshots of his DFTR account for years and transferred them to his new phone that he just bought.
Not to mention him yesterday saying he still thinks he would be able to log in to an account he sold years ago on his IPad. Why would the password and Apple account still be the same? He has no idea all the shit you have to go through getting changed over to actually sell one of these accounts and get it successfully swapped to a new person. You have to get Scopely to accept a new Apple account, a new e-mail, new payment information, a new log in device, etc. all at the same time.
This is a stupid fucking lie he barely thought out while he was drunk last week.
 
Hectic Heckler said:
What would surprise me is that, when the new whale spends money for the first time after buying the account, the name on the credit card/paypal account/whatever won't match the original buyer/account holder, and a giant red flag could be found from that, causing the account to be locked/suspended immediately. Are there no checks for past/future in-game purchases by name?
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What would surprise me is that, whenever the new whale tries to join a new faction he either gets immediately banned or half the users get doxed.
When was the last time the account even changed faction and how do you explain to the buyer about how much of a hot account it is? I mean you could just not tell them but its going to come up eventually. If they even do a cursory google search look at the autism that they would find.
 
I happened upon Sidescrollers stream while browsing Youtube and I wonder what DSP will say of the 'monetize the haters' stream that Craig is most certainly not doing at the moment. He's making more money that DSP probably has the entire king arc.
 
I like how the new lie of "I sold the account! I haven't had it for years!" is like a real life alternate lie, like if you swiped on an AI response to get a different one, originally it was "that account name is the same as mine, but it's not mine it's someone else or a troll dood!"
 
Accounts in games like these go for a few hundred bucks. Aint no way in hell greedy ass DSP would ditch an account for $400 that he spent tens of thousands on.

One of the reason he couldn't sell some of his shitty statues was because he wanted to sell it at full price, and only a few dents were stupid enough to pay for it.
 
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