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They should've played with that in the reboot, maybe even the second movie. Mulder is one of a ten thousand conspiracy theorists on the internet, babbling about something called "purity control" hidden in a vaccine during a flu plandemic in 2009 and that's why the alien invasion didn't happen in 2012, but this time he's really on to something big. Another wave of alien invaders, the government is testing more secret technology, corporations are doing 24/7 surveillance and psyops, a black magic/sexual blackmail cult is taking over the country, maybe all of the above. With the internet, Mulder now has more reach than he ever dreamed possible when he was an FBI agent. But no one cares. Not even the aliens, the government, the corporations, or the cults are trying to stop him any more. How do you fight the future when everyone's okay with events that are currently unfolding? I can't think of a satisfying ending for this. Our complacency has doomed us.
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I like it, but it's too on the nose. Conspiracy theories about the government, hell almost in general have been aligned with no longer being just crazy, but crazy and far right-wing. Wouldn't fly today.
 
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The retcon of the "alien invasion never being real" makes no since. Considering we should flat out evidence throughout the show that said otherwise!
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Didn't they say in season 11 that it actually was real or something?

IDK.

The "myth-arc" is nonsense.

I don't think Chris Carter actually cares if it makes sense. He just always wants there to be a big convoluted conspiracy going on that you can never fully figure out.
 
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Oats12345 said:
The retcon of the "alien invasion never being real" makes no since. Considering we should flat out evidence throughout the show that said otherwise!
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Was that the one where Mulder spent a few months not believing in aliens because the Pentagon made a fake alien corpse to discredit him, or was there a real retcon later on? It was definitely real up through the end of the original run. The reboot (revival? whatever) said the aliens said they were planning to invade but decided not to because of global warming. Never mind they originally left the planet because of an ice age, and they need heat for their metamorphosis from reptilian to gray.

Of course, the reboot wasn't terribly consistent on that point. It also said aliens abandoned Earth and built a wall around it. I didn't care much for that episode and don't include it in my headcanon. Reggie was always one of my favorite characters and I thought his arc ended perfectly in the original run. They shouldn't have brought him back if they didn't have anything good for him to do.
 
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Site of Origin said:
I think the x-files is a show that really helps hold together if you transport yourself back to the 90s while you watch.

Forget about the Internet and smartphones as they are today, and remember what nerds and conspiracy theorists used to actually be like. Imagine trying to prove that shit without instant live streams to Twitter and Tik tok.

Shit, just remember when science fiction could tell a good story.
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yeah back then you were lucky to get a faq about mj-12 off usenet
 
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>x-Files season 4 episode 8: Tunguska
>Skinner is ripped af
I- wait, what?
This is only slightly less unsettling than discovering that CSM really water skiis
 
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Modler that's not a double-post, it's just ball lightning.
"Kaddish" the golem episode
I understand that they need to bring the audience up to speed on what a golem is at this point, but "spooky" Mulder being completely unaware of what a golem was bugged me.
I get this was before kabbalah was hot shit for housewives and Japan, but I expected Fox to know at least the basics.
I forget, did Mulder show an interest in movies at large or just Plan 9? Obviously the old silent The Golem isn't likely to be on UHF Midnight Matinee or whatever, but still.
 
I loved this show when it aired, was watching it from the start of season 1. But I concluded if you really wanted to do something good with the property now, you'd have to basically start over. Carter ruined his own show with a series of bad mistakes starting fairly early (season 3 or so? When the conspiracy was reduced essentially to one dude) that became unfixable. No reunion show or continue the terrible mythology arc is ever going to help it.

After the original run was over, I think that is when most of the original fanbase realized that the actual strength of the show wasn't the 'conspiracy' but the monster of the week episodes. Any ongoing story should have been more loose. I now think of the monster of the week episodes more in the style of the Twilight Zone with the FBI agents as a framing device.
 
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I loved this show when it aired, was watching it from the start of season 1. But I concluded if you really wanted to do something good with the property now, you'd have to basically start over. Carter ruined his own show with a series of bad mistakes starting fairly early (season 3 or so? When the conspiracy was reduced essentially to one dude) that became unfixable. No reunion show or continue the terrible mythology arc is ever going to help it.

After the original run was over, I think that is when most of the original fanbase realized that the actual strength of the show wasn't the 'conspiracy' but the monster of the week episodes. Any ongoing story should have been more loose. I now think of the monster of the week episodes more in the style of the Twilight Zone with the FBI agents as a framing device.
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I still think Home was the best episode.
 
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I still think Home was the best episode.
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Great look, but I thought the story for it was weak. Why do the Peacock brothers attack the sheriff? Wouldn't that just bring down the law on them even more? I think they had a good idea but it needed to be fleshed out better. It's not a bad episode, but I don't think it is good as people say.

Other than the weakness of the conspiracy episodes by at least season 3 (and maybe even 2), I didn't notice horrendous episodes until season 5. I don't mean weak episodes by this, X-Files always had some of those going back to the first season. I mean episodes that were just dumb. The episode with the Cher impersonator (incidentally, this is one of Carter's favorites, maybe that explains why the show went to shit if he thinks abortions like that episode are good), the retarded Bermuda Triangle with NAZIS episode, among others. When I was going through my blurays of the show last year, season 5 was the first season I started to skip episodes. I didn't even bother getting the blurays after season 7.
 
Oats12345 said:
The retcon of the "alien invasion never being real" makes no since. Considering we should flat out evidence throughout the show that said otherwise!
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It could have worked if they had committed to it and the cliffhanger where Mulder "kills himself" after finding out this information remains my favorite X-Files season ending cliffhanger. A shame they 100% pussied out on it and then some.

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Didn't they say in season 11 that it actually was real or something?
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They backpeddled the very next episode (the reveal was a season finale) when the show came back next season. The whole point was to break Mulder mentally as Scully's cancer was back and have him an-hero out of guilt over Scully dying because of him to "convince him that aliens exist" while also having Scully die from her illness; killing two birds with one stone (Mulder kills himself by his own hands and discredits his entire crusade by having his suicide be linked to him realizing his entire life's crusade was a lie).
 
I honestly wish they had done the alien invasion thing in 2012. Mulder and Scully would be living in exile, and would get to witness the alien ships landing. They'd be unable to stop it or fight but it would have been a cool and dark ending.
 
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BootlegPopeye said:
The episode with the Cher impersonator (incidentally, this is one of Carter's favorites, maybe that explains why the show went to shit if he thinks abortions like that episode are good), the retarded Bermuda Triangle with NAZIS episode
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I haven't really watched either of those since they were new but I recall mostly liking them.(assuming this is the one with the Cher impersonator I'm thinking of, I assume there's not many but I won't rule out there's more than one)
 
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'X-files' star Gillian Anderson says she 'rebelled' against being told to walk behind David Duchovny during filming

Anderson said that because of sexist behaviors on the original show, she wouldn't star in a reboot unless new writers were hired.
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'X-Files' Star Gillian Anderson Refused to Walk Behind David Duchovny…

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Gillian Anderson told Variety that she had a "knee-jerk reaction" when she was asked to walk behind her male costar David Duchovny while filming "The X-Files."

The science-fiction mystery series, which began in 1993 and ran for eleven seasons, followed two FBI special agents Fox Mulder (Duchovny) and Dana Scully (Anderson), who solved paranormal cases.

During an interview with Variety after being nominated for a Variety Icon Award, Anderson said she tried to push back against sexist behaviors on set when she worked on the show.

"I was expected to walk behind [costar Duchovny] when [our characters] walked up to the front doors of the people we were investigating," she said. "There were things that I rebelled against."

Anderson did not tell Variety who specifically enforced or requested this or whether she succeeded in making changes on set. However, this is not the first time Anderson has criticized the show.

In an interview with Red magazine in 2014, she said the pay gap between herself and Duchovny was "massive."

Gillian Anderson has played Detective Dana Scully on "The X-Files" for 11 seasons. Shane Harvey/Fox
When the series returned in 2016 for its final two seasons, after originally finishing on season nine, Anderson was reportedly offered half of what Duchovny was given, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Last year, Anderson said in a roundtable THR interview that she had put her foot down for the new seasons after she had previously spoken out about the pay. THR later reported that a source said they received equal pay for the two seasons.

"We were going back to do another season and Fox came to me to offer, I don't know, a 10th of what my costar was being offered," the 53-year-old actress said. "That was the point where I was like, 'Fuck this. I'm actually going to talk about this [publicly].'"

Anderson added that she had an advantage in that she could not be fired because fans would get upset with the show.

The series won 16 primetime Emmys over the years and has become a cult classic especially due to Anderson's character who had inspired women to become scientists.

Anderson, who told THR last year that she had "mini breakdowns" while filming "The X-Files," told Variety that she isn't entirely keen on returning to the series for a reboot or new season.

"It just feels like such an old idea," the "Sex Education" star said. "I've done it, I did it for so many years, and it also ended on such an unfortunate note."

"In order to even begin to have that conversation, there would need to be a whole new set of writers and the baton would need to be handed on for it to feel like it was new and progressive," Anderson added. "So yeah, it's very much in the past."

In 2017, The Washington Post reported that only men had been hired for "The X-Files" writing room for the newer seasons.

In response to this Anderson tweeted: "And 2 out of 207 eps directed by women. I too look forward to the day when the numbers are different. #TheFutureisFemale."
 
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That's Dr. Special Agent Dana Scully to you.

Thematically, Mulder's the one who charges ahead and Scully represents restraint and deliberation. I'd put her behind him in things like promo shots to reinforce that. And Mulder's also the driving force in most of the plots. Scully saunters into the office every morning and Mulder's already there, slide projector loaded and plane tickets in hand. He's the one who makes the contacts and interviews witnesses, usually seeking confirmation of his crackpot theories or planting ideas in witness's heads. Scully's role is to discredit Mulder's work, which she can't do until Mulder has done the work.

If I understand her complaint, Fox lowballed her on their initial offer, her agent said lolno, and she got paid the same as Duchovny. Who cares.

And the episode she directed sucked.
 
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