[X-Post] Closure of the CWCki Forum's Private Discussion Board

[Spatchmo]

Has anyone told CWC that the galpal betrayal was fake? Maybe there's a chance to undo some of the damage to his heart level.

Marvin said earlier in the thread the "betrayal" itself wasn't fake. Just some of the correspondence was.

 

[P-Logic]

Has anyone involved in this considered how they would feel if Chris actually committed suicide?

When the trolls sent him that message supposedly from his high school gal-pals, he said that the only thing stopping him from killing himself was his mother and his cats, and they won't be around forever.

I'm not saying this to chastise anyone, I am genuinely curious. Would you regret it, or would you feel delighted at a job well done? Serious question.

 

[ThePlatformMaster]

I'm sure some of them would feel bad, but others would just try and rationalize it like always.

"Oh well, he's so dumb he would have eventually been shot by the police or fallen into an open manhole or something."

 

[CatParty]

Has anyone involved in this considered how they would feel if Chris actually committed suicide?

When the trolls sent him that message supposedly from his high school gal-pals, he said that the only thing stopping him from killing himself was his mother and his cats, and they won't be around forever.

I'm not saying this to chastise anyone, I am genuinely curious. Would you regret it, or would you feel delighted at a job well done? Serious question.

chris is not committing suicide. you're dumber than chris to think otherwise

 

[P-Logic]

chris is not committing suicide. you're dumber than chris to think otherwise

Whatever helps you sleep at night man.

Chris has never been predictable. That's part of what makes him a great lolcow. The guy went to a gay bar the other night. Who could have seen that coming? I don't think Chris is going to kill himself any time soon, but when his mom is gone, all bets are off in my opinion

 

[ON 190]

I haven't always seen eye-to-eye with you, null, but you're entirely correct. Just don't blame yourself because you created and hosted these boards. Any board, be it dedicated to a lolcow or not, will always attract weens. It's a terrible fact and nothing that can be stopped, sadly. I know I make a ton of Chris jokes, but the reason I've stuck around is because of the non-weens, the really awesome people that populate this board and don't do more than just crack a Chris joke while they're getting to know other awesome people. Not trying to sound sycophantic here, but it's something you made possible by making these boards.

tl;dr don't blame yourself. also, most people here are awesome and I'm glad to have made so many friends, so fuck the weens and people who seem to get off on actively hurting someone, because people who do that are the ones with the worst mental disorders.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Funny that a lot of you saying that "this was the right choice" were the same people who were patting Skyraider on the back for digging through Chris' garbage and talking about how much he loathes Barb.

Although there were quite a few folks calling it bad as soon as they saw it, there were also a lot of folks eager to gobble up whatever content was offered them, and the fact that it came out of a burned up trash pile didn't make them hesitate.

I didn't discourage it at all, that's true. But I share that in common with many people who never had access to the private forum. It seems like this thread is being used by many as a form of attaining catharsis, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But once achieved, I think it's best the forum move forward from it as a group.

 

[Silver]

so are the galpal facebook accounts fake, or merely their interactions with chris directly?

 

[ThePlatformMaster]

I'm asking with total sincerity, are people actually surprised that there is a private forum and an "Inner Circle" of spergs?

I mean, really, over the years I have heard several references to an "Inner Circle" and the self-important trolls who supposedly make up the ranks. This wasn't really news to me.

The only news to me was that the TRUE and HONEST Cwcki was being used as a tool to troll Chris' followers which makes no god damn sense. I guess when a lolcow is dry, you start to fool the viewers? Gotta troll someone, right?

 

[hellbound]

I think we all knew there was something going on behind the scenes for a long time. Open relationship? She lost the CD and it was found by somebody who knew its significance? Somebody even wanting to be in a relationship with him at all, without ulterior motive? Ri-i-ight.

It's pretty easy to see you're right, he's a broken man male lesbian tomgirl. Whatever life he had in him is fading away. He has no purpose in life and likely never would have. He has barely any human contact. For all practical purposes, without the trolls it's just him and Barb, in a junk-filled den, until the all-too-soon day she dies. And then what does he have?

Good god, that's pitiful. When you get down to it, the only thing he really has left are the people he hates with all his heart.

But he was doomed to that from the beginning. Taught he can do no wrong, that he's better off never finding a job, that everything in life should come to him rather than having to work for it. He self-segregates by pushing everybody away that disturbs his entirely abnormal worldview in the slightest, and demands tribute for doing nothing. He ignores rules and laws whenever he wants and gets himself banned from most places he's set foot in. But we all know that already. Maybe he wouldn't be so hurt, but other than that his life would never have amounted to anything more.

I've never taken an active role for a number of reasons. Not least of which are that I'm too lazy and too busy but also that I could never really justify doing that to another human being (although clearly I have no problem taking entertainment from others' efforts...). I understand why you would shut down anything that would enable his trolling here, I absolutely do, and honestly I don't think I can disagree. And maybe even if you ignore the human aspect, he's built his walls too high and too thick to make it worth it waiting for things to get through.

But a part of me feels that, if people tell him that almost everybody he knows is a plant to get more entertainment from him, and that he loses that last shred of human contact, it's going to do more damage than just reeling it back some. At least if it's the people who hang out here messing with him - even if they have to do it from somewhere else - odds are better that their motivation is going to be more to at least try to move him forward instead of crushing him more.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. And I do kinda like "kiwi farms."

PS as we're obviously shifting focus away, how can I get caught up on the whole jace/tyce thing I've been ignoring?

 

[Reldnahcnotsewnaitsirhc]

Is this the "let's all suddenly act like good people" thread?

 

[warongiygas]

I know I might be beating a dead horse, but kudos to Null for putting his foot down. The fact that Catherine is a troll is no surprise to anyone, but I am quite surprised that she is part of a trolling conspiracy originating from the CWCki forums. Disappointed too, I suppose. As other members have pointed out, there were quite a few clues that something fishy was going on, so it's not as though this is a complete shock... but the fact that Chris's social life is almost entirely controlled by people pretending to be his friends / gal pals / sweetheart though... that's out there. What's the point of pushing Chris deeper into his cartoon-reality when he does such a fine job of that himself?

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Is this the "let's all suddenly act like good people" thread?

I didn't want to say it without some tact and understanding, but that's basically the catharsis thing I was talking about.

Again, I don't blame anyone. But it is what it is.

 

[Super Collie]

My thoughts on the matter of "The Burned Documents" is that yes, the manner in which they were obtained was distressing to some, but their content came from an era of Christory that I think we can all agree could be considered the "holy grail": high school.

Chris romanticizes his high school years to a fault; it is the most pervasive aspect of his life. "High school" has stretched across literally every single "saga" and arc in CWC's life. Count Graduon, Chris' own ill feelings toward graduation, was the main bad guy of Sonichu. The secret source of Chris' powers was his high school class ring. Many people here cite Chris' graduation pictures (the one where he's holding the single balloon) as their all-time favorites. The phrase "Honor Roll my ass" became a community inside joke. He built a Lego replica of his alma matter a full 10+ years after his graduation. In Chris' latest video ("I Love You Catherine") he was STILL (!!!) wearing that Manchester high sweatshirt.

That list goes on and on and on, endlessly. The takeaway here is that the salvaged documents finally shed some light into an oft-speculated aspect of Chris' life that happened before he was discovered online. It showed that the whole "Honor Roll" thing was most likely a farce, and that Chris' grasp on geography and literature was tenuous at best. I'm not sticking up for what was done or how they were obtained, but I can most certainly see why the community was receptive but overall hesitant to see them.

 

[Ian Brandon Something]

Is this the "let's all suddenly act like good people" thread?

Seems to be. Personally I just want Chris content and I don't care how we get it

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Is this the "let's all suddenly act like good people" thread?

Kind of. I think it's eventually going to become the "vilify the people who provided content that we all enjoyed" thread though. It's already beginning to lean that way.

 

[Da Big Staw]

I do find it funny that some of you claim to be unaware that people from this forum were trolling chris. It was obvious when skyraider posted the CD, if not before. It seems pretty intellectually dishonest to know Chris's past ect.. then get outraged when someone pretends to be someone he knows for the 100th time.

Still, I agree with others there is little content left in chris. I'll await the release of all the cocks before making any judgement however.

 

[4Macie]

Is this the "let's all suddenly act like good people" thread?

The people who actively troll Chris are probably in the 5% of the forum, the other 95% are just here for the ride. What Null is saying is that one of the groups that was actively trolling Chris (and in some sense us all) are getting called out, information is being released, and not all of it is good. I think people have always said they didn't agree with the means that stuff was received; for example, there were quite a few people who didn't approve of fake girlfriend Catherine, or Kacey, or whomever, and there were people who didn't agree with digging through Chris's trash and taking pictures of his home.... but 99% of us wanted to see that stuff. So, we didn't like the means, but we loved the results.

I also think that a lot of people wanted to say something, but were too scared of the backlash they might face. If someone had said "Hey _____, digging through Chris's trash is creepy as shit, go get help" they would have instantly been banned (likely) or they would have received some hateful comments for making a serious statement. So now that Null, someone here with power and serious respect, has made a statement, people who share that view but didn't want to express it, or maybe they didn't even realize it until he said it, feel safe making their views known. This forum is ever changing, don't try to understand it... it'll likely frustrate you and you'll end up dead at the ripe ol' age of 42.

 

[MW 002]

I know it's been said to death but Chris was always funnier when it was content he was producing himself as opposed to him being egged on.

I reckon discussing with my boyfriend that the trolls broke him beyond repair, to the point of slowly becoming what he hated (to a degree).

I won't go on a holier than thou rant as I'm not much better than the inner circle, as I used to help edit his ED article back in 2007. It's nothing spectacular, I was 13 back then and boy was I brutal at that age- 'twas in my neo nazi phase back then.

I will say that I have to thank Chris for inspiring me to do something with my life!

 

[yaluj]

The people who actively troll Chris are probably in the 5% of the forum, the other 95% are just here for the ride. What Null is saying is that the group that was actively trolling people are getting called out, information is being released, and not all of it is good. I think people have always said they didn't agree with the means that stuff was gotten; for example, there were quite a few people who didn't approve of fake girlfriend Catherine, or Kacey, or whomever, and there were people who didn't agree with digging through Chris's trash and taking pictures of his home.... but 99% of us wanted to see that stuff. So, we didn't like the means, but we loved the results.

I also think that a lot of people wanted to say something, but were too scared of the backlash they might face. If someone had said "Hey _____, digging through Chris's trash is creepy as shit, go get help" they would have instantly been banned (likely) or they would have received some hateful comments for making a serious statement. So now that Null, the all knowing father of us all, has made a statement, people who share that view but didn't want to express it, or maybe they didn't even realize it until he said it, feel safe making their views known. This forum is ever changing, don't try to understand it... it'll likely frustrate you and you'll end up dead at the ripe ol' age of 42.

So you're saying there were people who didn't like what was going on but stayed anyway? If people are following, trolls are going to provide more content. If people stop following, trolls aren't going to provide more content. Best way to stop the trolling if you don't like it is to leave imo rather than sitting around enjoying all the fruits of the trolls' work and simultaneously saying you don't like it.