Y2K/Millenium-era pop
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I'm more shocked they got the fucking Dust Brothers to produce their album and that song. The same guys who produced Paul's Boutique and the Fight Club soundtrack.
All I'm gonna say is fuck Allen Klein.
He's probably the most scummy guy who has ever worked in the entertainment industry. At least non-sexually. He managed the Rolling Stones when they blew up. Somehow got the rights to all their masters pre Sticky Fingers (minus Brown Sugar and Wild Horses). Went on to manage The Beatles and possibly was one of the reasons they broke up.
Then at the suggestion of John Lennon, help distribute and bought the rights to Alejandro Jodorowsky first film El Topo. Then he helped produced The Holy Mountain. Klein wanted to produce a version of the erotic book Story of O with Jodorowsky directing it. Jodorowsky eventually abandoned the project. In retaliation, Klein pulled both El Topo and The Holy Mountain from distribution for decades. It wasn't until Klein's kids were in charged and he was long dead that the film finally was put back into circulation. For the longest time, the only way to see it was grey market release or getting one of two Japanese Laserdisc releases that had censored nudity.
So where do The Verve come into this. Well, the band sampled an orchestra version of The Rolling Stones' The First Time. All good. Then the song blew up. Klein said they sampled too much, sued the band, and won all rights to the song. Or some shit. Wikipedia says they didn't talk with Klein's record company about the sample and he forced the lead singer to sell the publishing rights for a $1. Klein then went and commercialized the fuck out of the song. It got used in a Nike ad. The song won or was nominated a grammy, but it went to Jagger-Richards instead of The Verve. Because somewhere along the line the credits revered back to the Stones. The band basically broke up over this.
This isn't the first time Klein pulled this shit. If any artist even remotely used lines from a Rolling Stones song, he got them to put J-R credits on the song. Happened to both George Michael and Janet Jackson (Waiting For the Day and What'll I Do respectfully).
And then there's the whole My Sweet Lord fiasco. Where Klein was managing George Harrison. If you don't know, Harrison plagiarized another song for My Sweet Lord called He's So Fine. On accident of course. The label that owned the rights for Fine were going to settle with Harrison but Klein convinced the owners to sell him the rights. He was playing both sides of the lawsuit. The good news is this all came to light over the course of the lawsuit and Harrison won the rights to both songs. Though it took a decade for everything to be sorted.
People might say Billy Corgan or Mike Love are the biggest assholes in music. Nah, Allen Klein has them both beat. Fuck Allen Klein.
Then at the suggestion of John Lennon, help distribute and bought the rights to Alejandro Jodorowsky first film El Topo. Then he helped produced The Holy Mountain. Klein wanted to produce a version of the erotic book Story of O with Jodorowsky directing it. Jodorowsky eventually abandoned the project. In retaliation, Klein pulled both El Topo and The Holy Mountain from distribution for decades. It wasn't until Klein's kids were in charged and he was long dead that the film finally was put back into circulation. For the longest time, the only way to see it was grey market release or getting one of two Japanese Laserdisc releases that had censored nudity.
So where do The Verve come into this. Well, the band sampled an orchestra version of The Rolling Stones' The First Time. All good. Then the song blew up. Klein said they sampled too much, sued the band, and won all rights to the song. Or some shit. Wikipedia says they didn't talk with Klein's record company about the sample and he forced the lead singer to sell the publishing rights for a $1. Klein then went and commercialized the fuck out of the song. It got used in a Nike ad. The song won or was nominated a grammy, but it went to Jagger-Richards instead of The Verve. Because somewhere along the line the credits revered back to the Stones. The band basically broke up over this.
This isn't the first time Klein pulled this shit. If any artist even remotely used lines from a Rolling Stones song, he got them to put J-R credits on the song. Happened to both George Michael and Janet Jackson (Waiting For the Day and What'll I Do respectfully).
And then there's the whole My Sweet Lord fiasco. Where Klein was managing George Harrison. If you don't know, Harrison plagiarized another song for My Sweet Lord called He's So Fine. On accident of course. The label that owned the rights for Fine were going to settle with Harrison but Klein convinced the owners to sell him the rights. He was playing both sides of the lawsuit. The good news is this all came to light over the course of the lawsuit and Harrison won the rights to both songs. Though it took a decade for everything to be sorted.
People might say Billy Corgan or Mike Love are the biggest assholes in music. Nah, Allen Klein has them both beat. Fuck Allen Klein.
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And it's the only good thing that the Dust Brothers produced.
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Mmmbop?
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Here's a pop song from 1998 by an Irish knockoff of the Spice Girls
Come to think of it, the Spice Girls were probably one of the first big acts in the upbeat "turn of the millennium" bubblegum pop and pop rock of the late 90's and early 2000's.
From 1999. I liked this song when I was a little kid, and I remember these guys had their own TV show on Fox Family (which was better than ABC Family or Freeform)
This came out in 2000 to promote the Thomas and The Magic Railroad movie. I liked Thomas The Tank Engine as a little kid and enjoyed the movie at the time. The Locomotion was already one of my favorite songs, so I enjoyed this cover.
Something I noticed is that while Thomas and The Magic Railroad infamously bombed at the box office, this cover of The Locomotion got some decent airplay on pop radio as one of the "B-List" songs that play in between the really big hits. I also noticed that the oldies and classic rock stations began to play the original Little Eva version and Grand Funk Railroad's famous cover of The Locomotion a lot more often after the Atomic Kitten version got some airplay on the more modern pop stations.
This may not have been a pop song, but O Brother Where Art Thou? helped kickstart a revival of bluegrass and traditional Appalachian music in the early 2000's. This music video along with the one for "Man Of Constant Sorrow" got a lot of airplay on CMT when I was a kid. Loved it back then
Come to think of it, the Spice Girls were probably one of the first big acts in the upbeat "turn of the millennium" bubblegum pop and pop rock of the late 90's and early 2000's.
From 1999. I liked this song when I was a little kid, and I remember these guys had their own TV show on Fox Family (which was better than ABC Family or Freeform)
This came out in 2000 to promote the Thomas and The Magic Railroad movie. I liked Thomas The Tank Engine as a little kid and enjoyed the movie at the time. The Locomotion was already one of my favorite songs, so I enjoyed this cover.
Something I noticed is that while Thomas and The Magic Railroad infamously bombed at the box office, this cover of The Locomotion got some decent airplay on pop radio as one of the "B-List" songs that play in between the really big hits. I also noticed that the oldies and classic rock stations began to play the original Little Eva version and Grand Funk Railroad's famous cover of The Locomotion a lot more often after the Atomic Kitten version got some airplay on the more modern pop stations.
This may not have been a pop song, but O Brother Where Art Thou? helped kickstart a revival of bluegrass and traditional Appalachian music in the early 2000's. This music video along with the one for "Man Of Constant Sorrow" got a lot of airplay on CMT when I was a kid. Loved it back then
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Enjoy watching a 30 year old jump around dressed in Tripp pants.
It's called pop-punk.
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You ever hear of the unreleased 5th album that was supposed to come out in 2005, between In the Zone and Blackout? Called 'Original Doll', stans somehow got it onto youtube
The thing about the slutty goths at the time was that they often suffered from 'not like other girls' syndrome and decided that since their sluttyness was through a dark lens, that it was automatically subversive and not bimbo-y.
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Here's another Y2K pop song set to an anime from the Y2K Era.
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I wish operatic rock was still a thing instead of everything becoming increasingly tied to hip hop.
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AFAIK, an official tracklisting for Original Doll was never revealed, there's several fan-made ones of songs recorded in certain years. That said, some of those songs sound really dated for 2005. Especially what was to be the lead single, "Mona Lisa". Sounds like a leftover from her 3rd or even 2nd album.
People give "goths" too much credit for supposedly being open-minded and accepting etc. The ones I knew were always total bully bitches.
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Interesting. I've heard some of those songs, but many I haven't heard before. "And Then We Kiss" is such a great song, even though I'm pretty sure it's an In the Zone castoff (too bad it couldn't make the album, but the album was already superb regardless). Blackout was my least favorite album of hers after Britney Jean. I know many people love that album, but I couldn't get into it as much with its sound, bad videos and art direction -- due to her mental state at the time.
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It's still a thing, just not a mainstream thing.
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Yeah, I was listening to Blackout the other day and it's not as good as I remember. Started hearing the beginnings of the fart-synth era of pop. Still love 'Break the Ice', though.
Mona Lisa is my favorite Britney song, lmao. But I like a lot of dated and tacky shit.