YABookgate

[Morethanabitfoolish]

@neverendingmidi Thanks, will pass the suggestions on

 

[Flexo]

A mate's offspring is nearing highschool age and so far has still not been sold on Discworld so we were nattering about possible YA options for her since she's enjoyed the Potter stuff. As ever I chucked Tamora Pierce's name onto the list alongside Lord of the Rings (Hobbit's for primary school age) but was wondering if there's some actual good stuff out there for a teenage girl hitting the YA fiction but is still not quite at weightier books.

From the looks of this thread the field has only grown worse but curious if there's any actual good ones out there or at bare minimum ones to avoid like mad.

Male or female? @Mola Ram and i are plugged into the right-wing sphere enough we could provide plenty of alt examples.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Male or female? @Mola Ram and i are plugged into the right-wing sphere enough we could provide plenty of alt examples.

Female.
She doesn't need anything especially right leaning, as I say we're both hopeful she'll be onto Discworld soon which is a fairly liberal series really.

 

[Bionicle of War]

Maybe Chronicles of Narnia and its sequels by C.S. Lewis? There's a lot of it out there and I can't think of anything in that series that would be inappropriate for a teenage girl, let alone anything "woke". There is some unsubtle Roman Catholic preaching though, not sure if that would be an issue or not. If not that maybe Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle or Dragonriders of Pern by Anne McCaffrey, though I don't know that later series well enough to recommend it.

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

If she's younger, the Dragonsinger (McCaffrey) books have slightly less adult content and are explicitly YA.

The whole series is acceptable until the Dragondawn prequel which is pure ghostwritten garbage.

McCaffrey was very anti-fanfic, so the series didn't have the impetus to go into Harry Potter levels of popularity or continue to be massive after her death.

 

[Mola Ram]

I always recommend The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander, though it's probably slightly more geared toward boys. Loosely based on Welsh myth, a protagonist who matures over the course of five books (including a charming romance with the annoying girl he meets in book one), and absolutely zero trace of wokeness whatsoever. Really good stuff, especially if you catch it at just the right age.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

There is some unsubtle Roman Catholic preaching though, not sure if that would be an issue or not.

C.S. Lewis was very much an Anglican, not a Catholic.

 

[A Widdle Woach]

As a Pern nerd I have to say if you’re going into them looking for dragon rider adventures like Eragon you’re going to be disappointed.
You have to keep in mind they were written in the late 60’s and especially the earlier novels are more politics focused.
Pern’s world building though is amazing, the sci-fi behind the biologically engineered ’dragons’ is really interesting and the culture of the Weyrs is a lot of fun.

The pacing may be a little slow for today’s readers but Pern for me was one of the first worlds I got lost in. There’s big things like why the Weyrs are built and run they way they are to even little things like a coffee substitute called Klah being the morning drink of choice because coffee can’t grow on Pern.

Here’s a recipe for Klah from the guidebook:

Mix Together:
2 tablespoons sweet ground chocolate
1/2 cup dark cocoa
3/8 teaspoon cinnamon
1 teaspoon dark instant coffee ground into a fine powder
A small pinch of nutmeg

Use two to four teaspoons of the mix per cup of boiling water. Mix well. It should be thick like hot cocoa.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

Re: Discworld, has she tried the books Pratchett wrote specifically for younger readers? I'm thinking the Tiffany Aching series, The Amazing Maurice, Truckers, The Carpet People?

 

[ShinyStar]

These are more current books, but my daughter has really enjoyed the Keeper of the Lost Cities books by Shannon Messenger, and she has not yet turned into a blue haired liberal. She also likes the Sheena Meyer series by L. B. Anne.

 

[Shaneequa]

I finally launched the ARC campaign for my first novel. If you wanna support a fellow kiwi send me a message and I'll send u a link.

Edit: forgot to mention that its free

 

[JJLiautaud]

I finally launched the ARC campaign for my first novel. If you wanna support a fellow kiwi send me a message and I'll send u a link.

What's it about, if it features an autistic man fucking his own mother im out

 

[Shaneequa]

What's it about, if it features an autistic man fucking his own mother im out

It's not kiwi-themed, sadly. I can't really describe it for info-sec reasons but its YA which is why im posting in this thread.

 

[ephermeral]

This is from Salt the Water by Candice Iloh, an author so eager to stick it to whitey that they reveal they do not know what an amber alert is.

 

[Mine is the Fury]

Re: Discworld, has she tried the books Pratchett wrote specifically for younger readers? I'm thinking the Tiffany Aching series, The Amazing Maurice, Truckers, The Carpet People?

The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents was a real highlight of my childhood reading list. Truckers, Diggers, and Wings too. I'd recommend them to any young girl looking for an easy, fun read.

 

[A nameless trool]

Female.
She doesn't need anything especially right leaning, as I say we're both hopeful she'll be onto Discworld soon which is a fairly liberal series really.

Did you go early Discworld, middle Discworld or late Discworld?

Early is a tough read unless you are hip to classic fantasy.
Late is not as good, so you can either go the YA books or wait till she gets 15 and give her the good ones (guards! guards! or Small Gods)

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Maybe Chronicles of Narnia and its sequels by C.S. Lewis? There's a lot of it out there and I can't think of anything in that series that would be inappropriate for a teenage girl, let alone anything "woke". There is some unsubtle Roman Catholic preaching though, not sure if that would be an issue or not. If not that maybe Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle or Dragonriders of Pern by Anne McCaffrey, though I don't know that later series well enough to recommend it.

She's already worked her way through first 3 Narnia ones with mixed opinions. Wrinkle in Time I'd heard of and the other-

If she's younger, the Dragonsinger (McCaffrey) books have slightly less adult content and are explicitly YA.

As a Pern nerd I have to say if you’re going into them looking for dragon rider adventures like Eragon you’re going to be disappointed.

Know the Pern stuff, going to suggest that.

Re: Discworld, has she tried the books Pratchett wrote specifically for younger readers? I'm thinking the Tiffany Aching series, The Amazing Maurice, Truckers, The Carpet People?

Did you go early Discworld, middle Discworld or late Discworld?

Younger reader targeted, specifically Maurice. While there is a hope she'll warm up to them that one did not grab her initially.

These are more current books, but my daughter has really enjoyed the Keeper of the Lost Cities books by Shannon Messenger, and she has not yet turned into a blue haired liberal. She also likes the Sheena Meyer series by L. B. Anne.

Not ones I've heard of, will pass them on.

I always recommend The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander, though it's probably slightly more geared toward boys.

Ah yes, been a while since I read those. Think I still have them gathering dust somewhere so can hand them over. If nothing else it'll wind my mate up when she asks how to pronounce Fflewddur Fflam.

 

[gmax alcremie]

A mate's offspring is nearing highschool age and so far has still not been sold on Discworld so we were nattering about possible YA options for her since she's enjoyed the Potter stuff. As ever I chucked Tamora Pierce's name onto the list alongside Lord of the Rings (Hobbit's for primary school age) but was wondering if there's some actual good stuff out there for a teenage girl hitting the YA fiction but is still not quite at weightier books.

From the looks of this thread the field has only grown worse but curious if there's any actual good ones out there or at bare minimum ones to avoid like mad.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweep_(book_series)

I remember loving this series as a middle school girl who also enjoyed Harry Potter. It's not particularly literary but I distinctly remember it being better crafted than a lot of the other YA "supernatural/paranormal" books of the time.

I also really enjoyed the His Dark Materials trilogy, and was into dystopian literature pre-Hunger Games so I read the classics like Brave New World, 1984, Fahrenheit 451, Animal Farm, Slaughterhouse Five etc. before I was truly "ready" but they're good books to read as a kid even if you don't really understand them very well. Makes reading them again in your 20s quite impactful.

(I also tried reading Pratchett around that age, couldn't get into it, and still just don't enjoy Discworld at all. So that might not be her age).

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Diane Duane's Young Wizard series was fun from what I remember. There's ten books in the series, I just never got past the third book since I kinda relied on the Scholastic Book Fair to get them lol.

 

[kalma]

what about redwall?
something wicked this way comes by ray Bradbury
i haven't read the series but joe Abercrombie does a trilogy that is more geared to ya compared to first law and age of madness series