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Yeah, there are going to be more divergences when you have a long form medium (several hundred pages) vs a short form medium (two hour film). I didn't bring up the lack of visual cues either because that seemed pretty obvious in the fact that they are different mediums.Sure, but you're skipping much of the important plot points. The macguffin happens to be the deuteragonist, inextricably tied with the magic system, all of which is explained in the first book, as the training is a lot more involved than "use the force". It's a long ass book.
Also yes, another technical difference would be that R2D2 in Eragon is related to magic instead of just the best robot ever.
I was referring to the literal immaculate conception of Anakin because of the midi chlorian bullshit and the prophecy but yeah, that's in later films. Same with space politics, but the ancient order of Jedi Knights is just a pleb tier Bene Gesserit who have no idea how to keep humanity's balance. That's the whole point of the Jedi - to keep balance in the force, which means the galaxy, which means humanity. The Bene Gesserit do the same - they act as humanity's shepherds. It's why Leto II reminds them of their "noble purpose" when they discover his hidden cache in the later books. Noble purpose... like what the Jedi are supposed to do? And Jedi mind tricks are literally just the Voice dude.
- That's actually not what immaculate conception means. I.C. refers to Mary's conception free from original sin. (I'm not even Catholic, I just know my Catholic bros cringe every time they see the mix up.)
- If you want to make the case that Lucas dipped deeper into Dune for the prequels... ok? (I'm not a big prequel defender so I don't really care.) But so now we've gone from "it definitely influenced his films" to "this one particular aspect of this franchise definitely influenced a similar aspect of another franchise." I mean, just try this as an exercise - come up with a galactic spanning order of people who are supposed to do "good" explicitly described as "guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy" in the first line that describes them - in a manner that someone else couldn't then call them as copycats of the Bene Gesserit by the same standard you just used. Heck you said "which means humanity" which doesn't make sense when the prequels explicitly show on screen that the Jedi are multi-racial with like... only 1 human on their ruling council. (maybe there was another, I forget)
- Do you even begin to see how far you're stretching here? Yeah, Jedi mind tricks are "the voice" - and having a commanding voice is a trope that goes back to even older tales. It even comes up in Lord of the Rings.
Oh yeah, and we all know Eragon ripped off the magic system of "Earthsea." Which I'm not even that upset about but it was noted. (I think magic systems are like tools.)
Spy X Family is a hilarious comedy about the world's best spy and the world's best assassin coming together to raise a telepathic orphan.Frieren is 142 chapters that follows the adventures of a elf who didn't know that a guy loved and she loved him until after his death and is still broken up about it 50 years later. So I'd say yeah.
And none of them know any of this about the others. It's very wholesome.
I can also recommend "Gamers!" (does not involve any actual games)