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I'll bet that at least half of the people on that list are there because they're progressive in a slightly wrong way on one or two issues.
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Frequently what these lists are about are tagging people who have the temerity to follow or -- gasp! -- actually interact with wrongthinkers on Twitter.
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No response yet. I'm not blocked, so there is that. Maybe they took today off, or something. These people also have a discord I thought about joining, but didn't, and is now private. Missed opportunity there.
FWIW, the Twitter account I'm using is so full of SJW goodness it isn't even blocked by Steve Shives. In fact, I'm following him on it.
I'm sure that's it. A Larry Correia wouldn't give a fuck.
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Well yeah, look at absolute frothing rage against Russians and the performative banning of everything cheeki breeki after the invasion of Ukraine. What they got out of the anti Muslim sentiment after 9/11 and the War on Terror wasn't that it was wrong to blame a whole ethnicity, it's that Islamophobia is bad because they're brown.
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Or they retweeted something or liked something on Twitter that is Very Problematic. That’s why there’s a bunch of ghouls combing over who’s liking pro-Johnny Depp tweets and Washington Post employees fixating on their coworker’s retweets (and during pride!). And no one is taking the time to wonder if treating everything as if it were an existential crisis is an unhealthy way to live.
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So...
Looks like we're getting the long overdue crossover between the Sad Puppies and the Comicsgaters.
If the feed isn't absolutely glorious - I could watch Larry Correia read out of the phone book - the seething reaction from SFWA could and should be.
Looks like we're getting the long overdue crossover between the Sad Puppies and the Comicsgaters.
If the feed isn't absolutely glorious - I could watch Larry Correia read out of the phone book - the seething reaction from SFWA could and should be.
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No luck getting the blocklist, alas. I'm a bit skeptical it actually exists. Or maybe they're on to me. (Oh, no.)
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I wonder if I'm the one who made the connection? Too funny, if so. Probably just a weird coincidence, but one never knows.
I mean, I retweet Correia's tweet at EVS and the next day he's going on the livestream.
FWIW, it just reminded me of some of the criticism EVS has leveled at the Nerdrotics/Geeks and Gamers types several times. As in, that sort never produces anything, just bitches and moans and collects from their paypiggies. So I sent it along.
Don't really consider it a powerlevel when it is my old GooberGrape Twitter account. If somebody wants to unearth some six year old sperging about ethics in games journalism, I'm there for it, I guess.
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It's been brewing for a while, but I bet you did kickstart EVS' interest. A lot of buzz came from an argument that a small-time SFWA loser named Patrick S. Tomlinson had with Jon Del Arroz. After that, he started getting interested in Patrick deep lore and became acquainted with the former Opie & Anthony pests who are trolling him for being a loser. They also troll some of the SFWA leaders for defending pedophiles.I wonder if I'm the one who made the connection? Too funny, if so. Probably just a weird coincidence, but one never knows.
I mean, I retweet Correia's tweet at EVS and the next day he's going on the livestream.
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FWIW, it just reminded me of some of the criticism EVS has leveled at the Nerdrotics/Geeks and Gamers types several times. As in, that sort never produces anything, just bitches and moans and collects from their paypiggies. So I sent it along.
Don't really consider it a powerlevel when it is my old GooberGrape Twitter account. If somebody wants to unearth some six year old sperging about ethics in games journalism, I'm there for it, I guess.
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His interview with Rackets was pretty kino ngl and rackets cleared his schedule so im probably going to give this a watch
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Honestly? One hell of a stream. Certainly helps that, compared to most authors, who tend to be a fairly shy or introverted bunch, Larry is a goddamned rock star, and gives some great interviews, as this and the Rekieta stream prove.
Also, I think it proves some rumors I've heard about Baen Books starting to reach out and try some unconventional marketing of their books and authors. I might have to call a friend I have over there during lunch. Because goddamned, Baen actually going on the offence for marketing and promoting themselves and their authors? That could go some wild places, do some real good for the genre, and added bonus, piss off all the right people.
I wonder if I'm the one who made the connection? Too funny, if so. Probably just a weird coincidence, but one never knows.
I mean, I retweet Correia's tweet at EVS and the next day he's going on the livestream.
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FWIW, it just reminded me of some of the criticism EVS has leveled at the Nerdrotics/Geeks and Gamers types several times. As in, that sort never produces anything, just bitches and moans and collects from their paypiggies. So I sent it along.
Don't really consider it a powerlevel when it is my old GooberGrape Twitter account. If somebody wants to unearth some six year old sperging about ethics in games journalism, I'm there for it, I guess.
Kudos on that! You guys have no idea how much power something as small as tagging people on Twitter or plugging someone or something in the right place can be.
Sincere fans and genuine love of an artist or their work will ALWAYS sell more than even the best marketing campaign.
Hell, it's why I adore that Larry Correia Tweet thread you quoted - he's right, for all the crowing from the Fandom Menace and right wing pundits, they still promote and consume the woke crap they claim to hate. Disney can literally be caught giving money to freaks who want to castrate their kids, and they'll still do hate videos about Star Wars.
Meanwhile, the kind of platforms they have would be revolutionary for the sales and careers of dozens of artists that share their values, or at least don't actively hate their audience and want to destroy them.
You get what you give, fandom.
Yeah, SFWA shiving itself repeatedly in the guts this year has been the gift that keeps on giving.
Honestly? Larry is the rare author who is charismatic, funny and a hell of an interview. Toss in his habit of being a firebrand, and willingness to kick hornets, and he's a riot to watch.
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You are absolutely right. The issue, which I have observed in my own feed, is a kind of catch 22. I've followed and watched both creators and critiquers both. Yet when I first log into YouTube what do I most often notice in my feed? Critique. It just gets the views and audiences. The actual creators doing stuff get a fraction of the views.
Rare exceptions would probably be folks like ya boi Zack who create and critique both. I did like that WorldClass Bullshitters would regularly advertise folks too right before a critique. It's a tricky balancing act of trying to keep the audience large and promote stuff both.
It does also bug me that the "resistance" has such horrible networking issues. Larry and the Mad Genuis club are genuinely awesome in promoting others, but I've noticed even with a wide range from Vox Day to Daily Wire will give nary a shout out to anyone on their side (jncluding smaller authors), no matter how much they bitch about needing to fight the culture.
Left or Right, the crab bucket mentality is there, just in different forms.
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As a hobbyist who's recently been entertaining the idea of maybe publishing someday, this thread has been a real eye opener for me. It's nice to know that Baen exists, but I seriously doubt that my writing fits in with the books they typically put out. I'll probably wait to see if the industry culture shifts before fully committing to the idea of actually seeing my dumb fantasy stories in a Barnes & Noble.
It is really funny to think of all the successful authors who never would have gotten their foot in the door today though. I wonder if when the woke cult finally collapses we'll see a flood of actually good books being published that were being turned away for political reasons before.
It is really funny to think of all the successful authors who never would have gotten their foot in the door today though. I wonder if when the woke cult finally collapses we'll see a flood of actually good books being published that were being turned away for political reasons before.
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Had a chat with my fiancé today about the problems YA has in how it alienates boys, which discourages them from reading, but I don't think it's entirely a boy problem. So he was wondering what it would take to get a Zoomer to read these days, and I honestly believe that some of them may never pick up a book again. Kids kind of need to be conditioned or have to have an inclination for reading, otherwise they'll just never feel the need to read what's not already available on their phones. Older books are still timeless enough that anyone can read them, but kids can't get their hands on them if their parents don't already own a copy, or if they aren't taken to the library often.
I had to use myself as an example because as a kid, despite being a young girl, it was "uncool" that I was a bookworm. But I have hyperlexia, so I was already born to read, and my parents had a lot of books and encyclopedias within reach that I'd just grab and read because I felt like it that day (because there was either nothing on the TV, it was raining/dark outside, my brothers were using the computer, or whatever). My brothers did it, too--not to the same extent I did, but at the very least, they will read a book if they're interested in it. But I have a feeling that if it wasn't for the fact I read so much as a kid, I might've become disinterested in books later in life just because a lot of the school-mandated books weren't always good or interesting, and I knew other bookworms from my classes who hated a lot of these titles.
Maybe we're just from a different time because the Internet wasn't yet prevalent, and even though there's oodles of reading material online, you can't find free shit without knowing someone with a folder or Mega link and there's too many normies who can't figure that out. Also it's just not the same reading off a screen than it is reading off a physical book, which may be a small key factor to why it is people just aren't interested in reading.
I also pointed out how back in the day, boys got into reading through comic books, and unfortunately, comic books suck ass now. Manga is a good alternative way to go about it, but that's still a niche genre, and even among weebs that's apparently not exactly the case like it would've been just ten years ago since, well, bookstores aren't exactly in the best spot right now. Haven't been for years. Scanlations also are just all over the place, too.
I dunno, feels bad, man. I've been thinking that at this point, I just have to hope and pray God blesses us with a hyperlexic child just to make things slightly easier on us in getting them interested in reading, and that we get enough books across demographics to ensure that.
I had to use myself as an example because as a kid, despite being a young girl, it was "uncool" that I was a bookworm. But I have hyperlexia, so I was already born to read, and my parents had a lot of books and encyclopedias within reach that I'd just grab and read because I felt like it that day (because there was either nothing on the TV, it was raining/dark outside, my brothers were using the computer, or whatever). My brothers did it, too--not to the same extent I did, but at the very least, they will read a book if they're interested in it. But I have a feeling that if it wasn't for the fact I read so much as a kid, I might've become disinterested in books later in life just because a lot of the school-mandated books weren't always good or interesting, and I knew other bookworms from my classes who hated a lot of these titles.
Maybe we're just from a different time because the Internet wasn't yet prevalent, and even though there's oodles of reading material online, you can't find free shit without knowing someone with a folder or Mega link and there's too many normies who can't figure that out. Also it's just not the same reading off a screen than it is reading off a physical book, which may be a small key factor to why it is people just aren't interested in reading.
I also pointed out how back in the day, boys got into reading through comic books, and unfortunately, comic books suck ass now. Manga is a good alternative way to go about it, but that's still a niche genre, and even among weebs that's apparently not exactly the case like it would've been just ten years ago since, well, bookstores aren't exactly in the best spot right now. Haven't been for years. Scanlations also are just all over the place, too.
I dunno, feels bad, man. I've been thinking that at this point, I just have to hope and pray God blesses us with a hyperlexic child just to make things slightly easier on us in getting them interested in reading, and that we get enough books across demographics to ensure that.
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Judging by your post, I think the way you grew up shaped your fixation on books and thinking back to what drew you in might tell you how to help the next generation appreciate them.
You said you grew up in a house full of books, which you read voraciously. This might be off-base but I bet your parents read stories to you at any opportunity before you could read for yourself. At the very least they must have also loved reading or they wouldn't have so many books around, and what a parent loves and shares with their child has a tremendous impact on how they grow up.
If you read something you enjoy to your children when they're very young, whether it's children's books or novels or nature magazines, I think they'll grow up appreciating what literature can offer.
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i highly encourage people to go to zlib and other such websites it makes it much easier to find and download books.
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I said in the post I have hyperlexia, the polar opposite of dyslexia, and was reading just before I turned two. I practically humored my parents and grandmother to read to me, and I always corrected them whenever they missed a line.
But otherwise you made a good point. We had quite a lot of children's books my mom had managed to get her hands on, but those books are sadly long out-of-print and I can't even remember what the exact brands were because so many books are in storage or were sold ages ago, when they weren't out-right so worn to the seams we had to toss them. Gonna have to do some extensive research to see what's out there.
I don't know if a boy would even care to read them, but I did take home my grandmother's copies of the Abbey Series books she had when we cleaned out my grandparents' house. So I can at least guarantee an older series will live on in my house.
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Feels like the discussion went to an interesting area where we are wondering how to get zoomer males who aren't gay to start reading and how to grasp the issue of hate promotion from anti-sjws(I refuse to call them the right wing because actual right wingers are too busy working or going to church to spend all day complaining about star wars for the 1 millionth time).
I see it like this. Zoomers have short attention spans. Okay, make shorter stories. Make more comics. Write stuff that can be made into a video(like how creepypastas were). Make serials rather than novels. Expand ideas like that Amazon villa thing where stories are sold in small chunks.
If the attention span is shorter and boys already are worse at reading in general than girls are, just make them shorter and more involved with the male gaze. Explosions and soggy tits galore. Thank you.
As for anti-sjws promoting garbage. This is an issue in two places:
1. People want negativity rather than positivity.
2. It's easier to deconstruct than to format a structure.
So when these centerists or center left people try to claim something is garbage, the best we can do is go "yes, I know, but you know what's not garbage? This thing right here that is to be praised."
Positivity for things that are overlooked is exactly why people like Ryan Holliger (who is a center left college kid) are growing dramatically, despite negativity being addictive. Negativity is junk food and we have enough of it. Rather than complain about wokeness, we revive what we believe is good stuff. We embrace it, flaunt it, and meme it. A second Renaissance if you will.
To say it very simply, which might go over a lot of people's heads; deconstruction, the negative channel awesome style insulting of something terrible, this is part of postmodernism. Postmodernism gave birth to wokeness because both involve a focus in representation and forcing a narrative rather than connecting with the audience (they call this playfulness). The narrative has become political, with both identity politics and civil religion, which is what wokeness boils down to.
So how do you take down the church of woke and their pedo priests? Simple, you strengthen your own church and make sure you don't have pedos. You let them have their church, you ignore their church, and you strengthen your own doctrine and your own scripture.
It's not enough to be simply anti-sjw, because at that point you're still agreeing with their core values, just not their current process, and this gives them more support through osmosis.
You have to be anti-sjw AND a content creator who knows what their audience wants outside of hatred of the sjw. And at that point it's so easy you can't believe.
Conservatives lean towards art that has realism to it, liberals lean towards art that is abstract. Right wingers love religious mythology and Jungian motifs, leftists love blindly toxic utopias and postmodernism. Reject postmodernism, embrace modernism and pre-modernism.
There's a YouTuber called The Fourth Age who does make videos about wokeness all day, but he also wrote a comic that he believes follows ancient Greek frame of storytelling and this would be part of pre-modernism. And rather than simply say how the woke media is bad, he explains what they get wrong and how reality works.
It's a shame but we can't simply deconstruct like a postmodernist neo-marxist. We can't do what they do and expect a different result. Major companies don't care. It doesn't do anything but allow them to buy back their stock at a better price, which gives them more money.
Art will not get better if there's nothing better to counter the garbage, and so all we can do is flood the market with what's better. Become louder than they are.
I see it like this. Zoomers have short attention spans. Okay, make shorter stories. Make more comics. Write stuff that can be made into a video(like how creepypastas were). Make serials rather than novels. Expand ideas like that Amazon villa thing where stories are sold in small chunks.
If the attention span is shorter and boys already are worse at reading in general than girls are, just make them shorter and more involved with the male gaze. Explosions and soggy tits galore. Thank you.
As for anti-sjws promoting garbage. This is an issue in two places:
1. People want negativity rather than positivity.
2. It's easier to deconstruct than to format a structure.
So when these centerists or center left people try to claim something is garbage, the best we can do is go "yes, I know, but you know what's not garbage? This thing right here that is to be praised."
Positivity for things that are overlooked is exactly why people like Ryan Holliger (who is a center left college kid) are growing dramatically, despite negativity being addictive. Negativity is junk food and we have enough of it. Rather than complain about wokeness, we revive what we believe is good stuff. We embrace it, flaunt it, and meme it. A second Renaissance if you will.
To say it very simply, which might go over a lot of people's heads; deconstruction, the negative channel awesome style insulting of something terrible, this is part of postmodernism. Postmodernism gave birth to wokeness because both involve a focus in representation and forcing a narrative rather than connecting with the audience (they call this playfulness). The narrative has become political, with both identity politics and civil religion, which is what wokeness boils down to.
So how do you take down the church of woke and their pedo priests? Simple, you strengthen your own church and make sure you don't have pedos. You let them have their church, you ignore their church, and you strengthen your own doctrine and your own scripture.
It's not enough to be simply anti-sjw, because at that point you're still agreeing with their core values, just not their current process, and this gives them more support through osmosis.
You have to be anti-sjw AND a content creator who knows what their audience wants outside of hatred of the sjw. And at that point it's so easy you can't believe.
Conservatives lean towards art that has realism to it, liberals lean towards art that is abstract. Right wingers love religious mythology and Jungian motifs, leftists love blindly toxic utopias and postmodernism. Reject postmodernism, embrace modernism and pre-modernism.
There's a YouTuber called The Fourth Age who does make videos about wokeness all day, but he also wrote a comic that he believes follows ancient Greek frame of storytelling and this would be part of pre-modernism. And rather than simply say how the woke media is bad, he explains what they get wrong and how reality works.
It's a shame but we can't simply deconstruct like a postmodernist neo-marxist. We can't do what they do and expect a different result. Major companies don't care. It doesn't do anything but allow them to buy back their stock at a better price, which gives them more money.
Art will not get better if there's nothing better to counter the garbage, and so all we can do is flood the market with what's better. Become louder than they are.