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Well, I did it. How the fuck can Sanderson do this output on a consistent basis?
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So when your cottagecore trans-ayden supernatural romance/cosy mystery hits big on booktok, you're converting the royalties to silver coins and sending to Josh, right??
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After trying to solicit underage nudes but before getting accused of being every -ist under the sun. It's the modern twitter/booktube/booktok author way.
I had to google what the hell you were talking about. I still don't know what trans-ayden means
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Nothing too arcane. When a confused small lesbian decides she must actually be a boy, for some reason she will almost always pick Aiden/Ayden/Jayden/Hayden/Gayden for her super-manly man name. She will then declare herself to be a gay man and exclusively date other confused small lesbians. It's very odd.
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I'm expecting some puzzle pieces here, but I actually quite enjoy Wings of Fire. Sure, the fanbase is a bunch of faggots, and my enjoyment of it is probably predicated mostly on my damn near fetish for the sky lizards, and sharing the experience with my wife, but I've read worse. Both adult and YA.
It actually manages to do gay characters right, with it barely being mentioned, just a character mentioning she's worried about her wife, or something like that. Well done! Sadly, this falls apart in one of the latest books with a character rolling up and loudly saying 'I'M A THEM!' before being shunted off into the background where they belong.
But other than that, I'd actually recommend it to younger audiences, unlike most of the garbage in the demo these days. I'm a big fan of traumatizing kids with their media, and the first book alone contains infanticide, casual child murder, torturing to insanity, death by slow acid burning, and burning off half a villains face with pretty good detail for YA (in that it's not afraid to talk about the flesh sloughing off, exposing muscle and bone), and it only gets worse from there. And all of this is couched in a three pronged war of succession where all three options are shit. (Vicious, conniving psychopath, stupid barbarian psychopath, or ditzy moron who can barely count.)
There's even a point of debate between the main cast of if it'd be better to let the clearly evil lunatic win, not because she might be god, but because she'd be a more effective ruler.
It actually manages to do gay characters right, with it barely being mentioned, just a character mentioning she's worried about her wife, or something like that. Well done! Sadly, this falls apart in one of the latest books with a character rolling up and loudly saying 'I'M A THEM!' before being shunted off into the background where they belong.
But other than that, I'd actually recommend it to younger audiences, unlike most of the garbage in the demo these days. I'm a big fan of traumatizing kids with their media, and the first book alone contains infanticide, casual child murder, torturing to insanity, death by slow acid burning, and burning off half a villains face with pretty good detail for YA (in that it's not afraid to talk about the flesh sloughing off, exposing muscle and bone), and it only gets worse from there. And all of this is couched in a three pronged war of succession where all three options are shit. (Vicious, conniving psychopath, stupid barbarian psychopath, or ditzy moron who can barely count.)
There's even a point of debate between the main cast of if it'd be better to let the clearly evil lunatic win, not because she might be god, but because she'd be a more effective ruler.
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Ooh, is it all non-sexualised violence?
I've got a teen girl who's grown out of kidfic and likes a bit of gore but (understandably) doesn't have any tolerance for rapey storylines...I tried giving her some Anne McCaffrey dragon books but she declared them to be 'the bad kind of gay'.
She really liked the Abercrombie Half a King series but I'm struggling with what to give her next
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Because the author wants to eat food and sleep indoors.
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I dont know what depresses me more the fact that a novel with such content is being marketed to teenagers or the fact that in order to eat the author has to market it to teenagers.
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Compared to "Watership Down", "Felidae", even "Animorphs", the "Wings of Fire" is relatively milder because such events are spaced out that you concentrate on the dragon that's the focus of the book ATT. Hells, "Animorphs" was directed for kids, in which the series include cannibalism (on two separate occasions iirc), deaths, an ant accidentally acquires the ability to morph and becomes a human though it can't stop screaming, forcing someone to stay in morph of that of a rat then condemning him to live on an island far away from civilization, ect.
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It's absolutely non-sexualised, I'm happy to say.
It's unfortunate that your daughter (I'm guessing) doesn't like Anne McCaffrey books, at least of the "Dragonriders of Pern" series, though while it's been a long time since I've last read one, I can kind of understand.
Another recommendation I could put forward is a crime-solving book series "The Cat Who...", it essentially has no sexualised violence that I can remember. You're following the story of a journalist named Jim "Qwill" Qwilleran, whom in the very first book going forwards would come to adopt a cat named Kao K’o-Kung, often called Koko, whom has the nose for finding and solving crimes, though doing it through cat means - knocking books off from shelves with titles relating to the crime in some manner, putting Qwill in the right spot to find a clue after demanding a walk on the harness, tilting certain paintings, things like that. However, the series is unfinished due to the author's passing, so there's 29 books, though the last one feels like it was written during her declining health as it didn't fully feel in character for the said reoccurring characters. But that is my opinion about that particular book.
While not targeted for kids, per say, this was one of the first adult books that my parents felt I could start reading by age 8 or 9.
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Fair enough point i guess its just weird i dunno maybe im growing old.
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Yeah, I loveloveLOVED that series, but looking back it was very horse-girl...
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Have you tried giving her Magician?
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As Rusty said, there's not a whiff of sexualization in there. Well, there might be two, if you stretch your definition to the point of stupidity.
The first, and far more creepy, is a big groomer moment, where a full ass adult is talking about marrying a literal, born earlier that day infant, but it's framed as purely a political move. Ya know, 'marry the princess for power.' thing. And everyone, but everyone who hears it is skeeved out by it. So, take that Stephanie Meyer.
The second is just a character thinking about the future with a 'and we would've had kids' kinda thing. The act of making kids is never thought about, just the idea of family, if I'm explaining it right.
Honestly, I wouldn't count them as sexualization, but you know how it is, gotta be real in depth with this shit sometimes, cus ya never know. Though, if a farmer turned out to be a Karen whining about the second one, I'd be fucking blown away.
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I don’t remember any sexual stuff. The most I think is a preteen girl following around one of the secondary characters with googly eyes knowing they were destined for a political marriage also they are about 5-7 years apart in age. Even then the character is in his teens and finds it weird at the time.
Also can’t that entire series can be summed up as Raymond E Feist novelizes his D&D game.
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As someone who loves the Pern books they’re honestly a hard sell for kids today due to the fact the series was started in the 60’s and since 2003 has been written by her son. (With the general consensus being he is actively running the series into the ground but I digress) They’re important because of the leaps Anne McCaffrey made for female Sci-fi writers and characters for the time. But there are some really cringe ideas in the world of Pern, the stuff surrounding the dragon riders during the mating flight and the infamous Tent Peg Statement for examples.
Wings of Fire is really enjoyable but I wish Tui was able to publish the books under anyone but Scholastic. I really hope she writes something for adults involving dragons, but I’ll admit I’m a turbo nerd for almost anything involving dragons.
Wings of Fire is really enjoyable but I wish Tui was able to publish the books under anyone but Scholastic. I really hope she writes something for adults involving dragons, but I’ll admit I’m a turbo nerd for almost anything involving dragons.
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Not quite. It's not a DnD campaign turned book but you can tell it's got that game system in the background if you're looking for it. It's pretty interesting that it's more of a large political story than a character story which wasn't common for its time.
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Lmao, yeah I get it. Me with dragons and cats back in the day.
There's a couple of other series you could suggest, such as "Guardians of Ga'Hoole" (to which the same author had intertwined this series with her other series ("Horses of the Dawn", "Wolves of the Beyond", "Bears of the Ice"), making it rather interesting). Same thing, no sexualization to worry about, though there are plenty of heavy topics like brainwashing (moonblinking, as it's called), infanticide, cannibalism AND child cannibalism, abuse, wars, what have you. The only thing you could see as sexualized is a grown female owl seeing a male owlet with a dark soul and thinking to herself "yes, he's perfect for leading the Pure Ones after the High Tyto dies, whom I despise as both leader and mate - he can be the mate I deserve!" Even in the book during the time that she had indeed gotten with the then-grown up Kludd and planning an invasion, she had the thoughts of "True, she was older, but what did it matter? She was not that much older. She had been so young when she was with the old High Tyto. She had spotted Kludd on one of their recruiting missions through the Forest Kingdom of Tyto. There was a look in that nestling's eye. She knew he would be perfect. The old High Tyto couldn't last forever. There was no one else except herself who could lead. But they needed more heirs. There must always be always be eggs in a nest. They had to think of the future." But other than that snippet of skeeviness, it's quite an adventure.
Oh, or perhaps "Pendragon" by D. J. MacHale. Zero sexualization (cuz the main character was 15 when he was thrown into adventure head first, so, thank the gods), lots of adventures, mixed with victories as well as defeats while battling against the one called Saint Dane who drags the worlds into their battles.
There is also "Warriors" by Erin Hunter. All about wild cats, but they live in clans, four in the beginning of the series. Once more, zero sexualization, but also again, some heavy topics are thrown in. It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I personally find enjoyment in all these series.