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homophobic fujoshi said:
Apparently it's infamous for making the characters completely OOC and it has a huge fandom that hasn't even read the HP books lol. Imagine making millions from writing gay HP fanfiction.
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But... if you change everything....

What makes it fanfiction?

"I hope you enjoy my Star Trek fan fiction where I wrote about this orphan raised on this remote desert planet in the galaxy..."
 
Flexo said:
But... if you change everything....

What makes it fanfiction?

"I hope you enjoy my Star Trek fan fiction where I wrote about this orphan raised on this remote desert planet in the galaxy..."
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I think it's because anyone who cares about this nonsense instantly translates the coded language in their head. Nobody who bothered to see the "After" film or read the print version of the Wattpad story didn't realize "Hardin Scott" was actually Harry Styles.

I really think this is putting a toe across the line of copyright infringement pretty blatantly, but so far the courts seem to think it's ok. You have to make just enough of it legally distinct, which I'm sure is what most of the editing at the publishing houses who scoop this garbage up is dedicated to.
 
Mola Ram said:
I think it's because anyone who cares about this nonsense instantly translates the coded language in their head. Nobody who bothered to see the "After" film or read the print version of the Wattpad story didn't realize "Hardin Scott" was actually Harry Styles.

I really think this is putting a toe across the line of copyright infringement pretty blatantly, but so far the courts seem to think it's ok. You have to make just enough of it legally distinct, which I'm sure is what most of the editing at the publishing houses who scoop this garbage up is dedicated to.
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Yeah, but if the guy not only is named "Hardin Scott" but also isn't a popstar, isn't gay, *googles whether Harry Styles has other traits* ... has only two nipples, and is otherwise completely different from the supposed inspiration, then it's not that the serial numbers were just filed off; the serial numbers have been stuck onto an entirely unrelated model and only then conspicuously peeled away. So then what's the point? Homeopathic Harry Styles exposure? Harry Styles via La Croix?
 
Flexo said:
But... if you change everything....

What makes it fanfiction?

"I hope you enjoy my Star Trek fan fiction where I wrote about this orphan raised on this remote desert planet in the galaxy..."
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Because fanfiction is basically it's own genre and the people who read it are often more "fans of fanfiction" than fans of whatever the original media is. Fanfic is so incredibly tropey that people can just jump from one fandom to another without even checking out the original work. The readers just want "enemies-to-lovers + high-school-au + omegaverse" or whatever their hyperspecific craving is, doesn't matter much if the fic is based on HP or some kpop band or whatever. Most popular fics are AUs so they don't even take place in the original universe and the character's original personality is replaced with these fandom archetypes. Then they use actors/character art as "face claims" (the look of the character to masturbate to). Not all fanfic is like this obviously, some try to be faithful to the original work, but basically all the most popular stuff is like this now.

Nowadays this tropeyness has spread to original media because the creators grew up reading fanfic, but most of the audience still prefers AO3 or Wattpad or whatever. Publishers try to lure these readers with these books that were originally famous fanfic because I guess there's lots of of money in there.
 
homophobic fujoshi said:
Nowadays this tropeyness has spread to original media because the creators grew up reading fanfic, but most of the audience still prefers AO3 or Wattpad or whatever.
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I didn't mention this during my screeds about what a horrible place Wattpad was, but it didn't escape my notice during my time there that a large chunk of its readers were immature short-tempered retards who did not want to be challenged even a little.
 
Mola Ram said:
I didn't mention this during my screeds about what a horrible place Wattpad was, but it didn't escape my notice during my time there that a large chunk of its readers were immature short-tempered retards who did not want to be challenged even a little.
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The result is a generation of readers who are engaged, articulate, passionate about fiction, and functionally illiterate about how fiction works.​
 
Mola Ram said:
This is one of the most interesting breakdowns of the problem I've ever seen. How does this man survive having a BlueSky account?
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You look up his article on MAID and I wonder how he's surviving being Canadian.
 
Mola Ram said:
I really think this is putting a toe across the line of copyright infringement pretty blatantly, but so far the courts seem to think it's ok
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As far as I'm aware, no one's been willing to test it. If you won, it'd probably have drastic consequences for writing fanfiction at all. But at this point, all of these writers are basically abusing a popular IP to shortcut publishing.
 
Three Gorillion Dollars said:
As far as I'm aware, no one's been willing to test it. If you won, it'd probably have drastic consequences for writing fanfiction at all. But at this point, all of these writers are basically abusing a popular IP to shortcut publishing.
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I don't think it'd affect fanfiction -- 99% of it is written without any chance of profit. It's these fics that the publishing houses pick up then turn into barely disguised "original work" when it's obviously still derivative and practically being marketed that way.

Then again, if this is against copyright, then so are Asylum-style mockbusters, and those have been humming along for decades.
 
Mola Ram said:
I don't think it'd affect fanfiction -- 99% of it is written without any chance of profit. It's these fics that the publishing houses pick up then turn into barely disguised "original work" when it's obviously still derivative and practically being marketed that way.

Then again, if this is against copyright, then so are Asylum-style mockbusters, and those have been humming along for decades.
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That's it! That's what's bugging me!

These aren't fanfiction. They're schlock! Roger Corman book equivalent.
 

That Audra Winter chick who said everyone needs call her Milo now aborted the Age of Scorpius rewrite and then made her underlings tell everyone to ask for a refund if they want it. The comments are hilarious, calling her 'he' and 'him' lol.
 
homophobic fujoshi said:
Nowadays this tropeyness has spread to original media because the creators grew up reading fanfic, but most of the audience still prefers AO3 or Wattpad or whatever. Publishers try to lure these readers with these books that were originally famous fanfic because I guess there's lots of of money in there.
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Also because fanfic writers often just change some names and plot points to avoid copyright and get published through traditional publishers.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
Current YA discourse is slagging off female Asian-American writers for the utter shite they write
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You guys weren't kidding. This shit is getting nuts.
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"Holy shit, who could've predicted this" plot aside, I don't want to be the fetish of every random Asian-American quirk chungus girl.
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Commissar Fuklaw said:

That Audra Winter chick who said everyone needs call her Milo now aborted the Age of Scorpius rewrite and then made her underlings tell everyone to ask for a refund if they want it. The comments are hilarious, calling her 'he' and 'him' lol.
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Does this moron (Audra Winter, not the youtuber) have a thread? This whole saga is deserving of one imo.
 
Buddy of mine was joking the other day about the buffetification of literature.
Adam Szetela’s book That Book Is Dangerous! (MIT Press, 2025), backed by Quillette reporting, documents the wider pattern. Authors now self-censor before submission; worse, they are required to sign contracts with morality clauses, forcing self-censorship even outside the book. Hard scenes vanish. Moral ambiguity is flattened. Raw longing – the ache of submission, the terror of trust – is replaced with safe, pre-approved dynamics. Writers learn the checklist: avoid offense, avoid risk, avoid anything that might make any reader uncomfortable. A committee approves the story, not a single human soul. The edges disappear. The result is identical to AI output: safe, average, edge-free fiction written by biological algorithms instead of silicon ones.​
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Real writers are being turned into what AI already is: generators of predictable text. Their agency to choose mercy or vengeance, to let silence cut deeper than explanation, to let the throat choke without metaphor is removed by fear.​
 
Castoreum said:
Does this moron (Audra Winter, not the youtuber) have a thread? This whole saga is deserving of one imo.
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I've made a few comprehensive posts on her but unless she tries some new scam she's not really worth it. I can see her sperging out again with her new projects or some artists reporting they aren't being paid/treated badly, but she might just fade into obscurity. TikTok/BookTok cows are very flash in the pan and of the moment, no one remembers bitches like Cait Corrain over there. It'll be worth keeping tabs on her but a whole thread would die pretty quick.

Does anyone have an update on These Wicked Gods? The Chinky Roman book. It's sequel was supposed to be out I could have sworn, has it been quietly canned due to the FASCIST romance?
 
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