Science Yale Conducts Mind Control Experiment; tries to turn Conservatives into Liberals - Loony Liberals try MKUltra

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When my daughter was growing up, she often wanted to rush off to do fun things with her friends — get into the water at the beach, ride off on her bike — without taking the proper safety precautions first. I’d have to stop her in her tracks to first put on the sunscreen, or her bike helmet and knee pads, with her standing there impatiently. “Safety first, fun second,” was my mantra.

Keeping ourselves and our loved ones safe from harm is perhaps our strongest human motivation, deeply embedded in our very DNA. It is so deep and important that it influences much of what we think and do, maybe more than we might expect. For example, over a decade now of research in political psychology consistently shows that how physically threatened or fearful a person feels is a key factor — although clearly not the only one — in whether he or she holds conservative or liberal attitudes.

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Conservatives, it turns out, react more strongly to physical threat than liberals do. In fact, their greater concern with physical safety seems to be determined early in life: In one University of California study, the more fear a 4-year-old showed in a laboratory situation, the more conservative his or her political attitudes were found to be 20 years later. Brain imaging studies have even shown that the fear center of the brain, the amygdala, is actually larger in conservatives than in liberals. And many other laboratory studies have found that when adult liberals experienced physical threat, their political and social attitudes became more conservative (temporarily, of course). But no one had ever turned conservatives into liberals.

Until (((we))) did.

In a new study to appear in a forthcoming issue of the European Journal of Social Psychology, my colleagues (((Jaime Napier))), Julie Huang and (((Andy Vonasch))) and I asked 300 U.S. residents in an online survey their opinions on several contemporary issues such as gay rights, abortion, feminism and immigration, as well as social change in general. The group was two-thirds female, about three-quarters white, with an average age of 35. Thirty-percent of the participants self-identified as Republican, and the rest as (((Democrat))).

But before they answered the survey questions, we had them engage in an intense imagination exercise. They were asked to close their eyes and richly imagine being visited by a genie who granted them a superpower. For half of our participants, this superpower was to be able to fly, under one’s own power. For the other half, it was to be completely physically safe, invulnerable to any harm.

If they had just imagined being able to fly, their responses to the social attitude survey showed the usual clear difference between Republicans and Democrats — the former endorsed more conservative positions on social issues and were also more resistant to social change in general.

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But if they had instead just imagined being completely physically safe, the Republicans became significantly more liberal — their positions on social attitudes were much more like the Democratic respondents. And on the issue of social change in general, the Republicans’ attitudes were now indistinguishable from the Democrats. Imagining being completely safe from physical harm had done what no experiment had done before — it had turned conservatives into liberals.

In both instances, we had manipulated a deeper underlying reason for political attitudes, the strength of the basic motivation of safety and survival. The boiling water of our social and political attitudes, it seems, can be turned up or down by changing how physically safe we feel.

This is why it makes sense that liberal politicians intuitively portray danger as manageable — recall FDR’s famous Great Depression era reassurance of “nothing to fear but fear itself,” echoed decades later in Barack Obama’s final State of the Union address — and why President Trump and other Republican politicians are instead likely to emphasize the dangers of terrorism and immigration, relying on fear as a motivator to gain votes.

In fact, anti-immigration attitudes are also linked directly to the underlying basic drive for physical safety. For centuries, arch-conservative leaders have often referred to scapegoated minority groups as “germs” or “bacteria” that seek to invade and destroy their country from within. President Trump is an acknowledged germaphobe, and he has a penchant for describing people — not only immigrants but political opponents and former Miss Universe contestants — as “disgusting.”

“Immigrants are like viruses” is a powerful metaphor, because in comparing immigrants entering a country to germs entering a human body, it speaks directly to our powerful innate motivation to avoid contamination and disease. Until very recently in human history, not only did we not have antibiotics, we did not even know how infections occurred or diseases transmitted, and cuts and open wounds were quite dangerous. (In the American Civil War, for example, 60 out of every 1,000 soldiers died not by bullets or bayonets, but by infections.)

Therefore, we reasoned, making people feel safer about a dangerous flu virus should serve to calm their fears about immigrants — and making them feel more threatened by the flu virus should cause them to be more against immigration than they were before. In a 2011 study, my colleagues and I showed just that. First, we reminded our nationwide sample of liberals and conservatives about the threat of the flu virus (during the H1N1 epidemic), and then measured their attitudes toward immigration. Afterward we simply asked them if they’d already gotten their flu shot or not. It turned out that those who had not gotten a flu shot (feeling threatened) expressed more negative attitudes toward immigration, while those who had received the vaccination (feeling safe) had more positive attitudes about immigration.

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In another study, using hand sanitizer after being warned about the flu virus had the same effect on immigration attitudes as had being vaccinated. A simple squirt of Purell after we had raised the threat of the flu had changed their minds. It made them feel safe from the dangerous virus, and this made them feel socially safe from immigrants as well.

Our study findings may have a silver lining. Here’s how:

All of us believe that our social and political attitudes are based on good reasons and reflect our important values. But we also need to recognize how much they can be influenced subconsciously by our most basic, powerful motivations for safety and survival. Politicians on both sides of the aisle know this already and attempt to manipulate our votes and party allegiances by appealing to these potent feelings of fear and of safety.

Instead of allowing our strings to be pulled so easily by others, we can become more conscious of what drives us and work harder to base our opinions on factual knowledge about the issues, including information from outside our media echo chambers. Yes, our views can harden given the right environment, but our work shows that they are actually easier to change than we might think.

(((John Bargh))) is a professor of social psychology at Yale University and the author of “Before You Know It: The Unconscious Reasons We Do What We Do”
 
No, it just means that conservatives can spot a threat way before liberals can. In fact, being unable to respond to physical or emotional threats appropriately is a huge red flag for autism spectrum.
Turns out, immigration, autogynephelia, and autism are real threats to Western Society.
No, because I've heard of a thing called the slippery slope fallacy; also, cause and effect are paradigms borne of white supremacy. Checkmate your privilege, conservative.
 
Conservatives would say that Liberals have no sense of self preservation
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Rich shitlib Hollywood celebs are so eager to welcome in whoever into the country because they live in gated community in multi million dollar mansions. They never have to deal with the repercussions, it's just virtue signaling to them. Thats why you see nearly every single one of them posting about welcoming refugees and hating Trump
 
Conservatives, it turns out, react more strongly to physical threat than liberals do. In fact, their greater concern with physical safety seems to be determined early in life: In one University of California study, the more fear a 4-year-old showed in a laboratory situation, the more conservative his or her political attitudes were found to be 20 years later. Brain imaging studies have even shown that the fear center of the brain, the amygdala, is actually larger in conservatives than in liberals.

Perhaps someone should inform them that being conservative, by definition, is the desire to maintain the status quo, and because you can only maintain the status quo by detecting potential threats to it, it is a given that conservatives are more threat-averse?

But if they had instead just imagined being completely physically safe, the Republicans became significantly more liberal
"Imagine you're completely safe... when a Truck of Peace is speeding towards you..."
BAM!!!
"Alla..hu...ak...."
 
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No, it just means that conservatives can spot a threat way before liberals can. In fact, being unable to respond to physical or emotional threats appropriately is a huge red flag for autism spectrum.

This x100. As the old cliche goes, "A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality." The "sensitivity to disgust" angle to this research suggests that humans, having adapted to frequent mixing with outgroups, developed social as well as biological immune systems. Violent and rapid rejection of people outside their ingroup is adaptive- otherwise you increase the chances of acquiring infections you're not ready for. This extends not only to behavioral avoidance but cognition. Check out this Haidt / Peterson interview for more info.

If there is such a thing as a social immune system, I guess a Kiwi Farmer is the equivalent of a researcher in a biohazard suit studying AIDS monkeys.
 
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So what you're telling me is that soon every Republican is gonna look like this?

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I hate to admit it, but conservatism is a natural side effect of having something to lose.
Although conservative vs. liberal is generally accepted as equal to left vs right, my belief is that not only are the two spectra not interchangeable - but in fact, conservative vs. liberal is a false spectrum, the two are not directly related.

Being a "liberal" really means that you value individual rights and freedoms. I don't agree that leftism equals liberalism, because leftism is running amok with collectivism, tribalism, blaming people for the group identities they can't control, and very generally practicing the same divisive hate and segregation they claim to oppose.

Being "conservative" serves a different purpose: If you are conservative, all it really means is that you think some change or attempted change is too radical, throws away too many good things, or it could be more simply that you really believe the status quo is completely good and the change in question has no merit. Being opposed to change as a principle is pretty ridiculous (and is why conservatives can sometimes accurately be described as "reactionary" when they take it too far), because while some changes are foolish, others are necessary. Whether you are conservative on this or that issue is something you should decide on a case by case basis. This whole spiel is because you said that being conservative means you have something to lose - I agree that's basically true. Only people who are too arrogant or ungrateful to fear losing what they have would never let themselves be conservative.

So the reason I say liberals and conservatives are not on the same spectrum is because being a liberal is essentially a philosophy that you apply to everything in life, but being a conservative is a tool set that you pick up when it's useful. I'm "conservative" now because I'm opposed to tone-policing and gender postmodernism and other SJW nonsense. But that derives from my liberal philosophy about personal freedom and not penning people into close-minded tribalism. In other words, I'm liberal always, and I'm conservative right now.

Just my thoughts on the donkeys and elephants.
 
A society needs both people who want to stay back and protect the camp and people who want to forge ahead. Unfortunately, these groups hate each other's guts right now in the U.S. to a really strange level. So many people want to larp Nazis vs. Commies when really our opinions are mostly pretty similar.

I've been wondering if it's because the "forge ahead" people, who are normally young, have been so incompetent at it. By that, I don't mean that they're doing dumb things -- young people are supposed to do dumb things. I mean that they're so fearful that the most extreme things they're doing aren't even that extreme and are definitely ineffectual. Even fashion hasn't changed much in the past 20 years. As a generation, they seem constantly terrified, whether they're dangerhairs or kekistanis.
 
What if your in the middle politically? Do you even count?
To them, anything right of ANTIFA is alt-right nazi conservative trump supporting white male redneck scum.

They've embraced George W. Bush's quote, "You're either with us or against us." They don't see a difference between far right nazis, moderate conservatives, or even centrists. Even moderate liberals are being labelled as "alt-right."
 
This x100. As the old cliche goes, "A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality." The "sensitivity to disgust" angle to this research suggests that humans, having adapted to frequent mixing with outgroups, developed social as well as biological immune systems. Violent and rapid rejection of people outside their ingroup is adaptive- otherwise you increase the chances of acquiring infections you're not ready for. This extends not only to behavioral avoidance but cognition. Check out this Haidt / Peterson interview for more info.

If there is such a thing as a social immune system, I guess a Kiwi Farmer is the equivalent of a researcher in a biohazard suit studying AIDS monkeys.
Violent and rapid rejection of people outside your ingroup was effective; but in a contemporary society, where your continued livelihood is going to involve a large amount of interaction with people outside your ingroup, it's no longer healthy to foster an attitude where others not like yourself are always the enemy. This doesn't mean that we should just accept everything; it just means we need to know how to get along with others.
To go with the immune system metaphor: a strong immune system is good, an oversensitive one leads to autoimmune diseases.
 
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Violent and rapid rejection of people outside your ingroup was effective; but in a contemporary society, where your continued livelihood is going to involve a large amount of interaction with people outside your ingroup, it's no longer healthy to foster an attitude where others not like yourself are always the enemy. This doesn't mean that we should just accept everything; it just means we need to know how to get along with others.
To go with the immune system metaphor: a strong immune system is good, an oversensitive one leads to autoimmune diseases.

Yes, this is an excellent point. To belabour the metaphor further, there's an innate immune system and an acquired one. We innately reject (and violently, also) people who are pedophiles, murderers, serial liars, etc. But our acquired immune system needs to be more fine-tuned in modernity, given the necessity to interact with people from one's outgroup.

Having said that, I think liberals need to be a little more understanding of the evolutionary impulse to reject people from one's outgroup, instead of running around seeking racism in every corner. The sad fact is, the impulse to be racist / xenophobic is present in just about everyone because of this fact of evolution. What matters is whether you act on it or not.

What if your in the middle politically? Do you even count?
Not for purposes of this study, maybe. And centrism is probably rare in people, psychologically. But IMHO it's where we should aspire to be.
 
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