🗑️ Trashfire YE24 Megathread - Kanye West (Ye) has announced his bid for the 2024 presidential election. In his infinite wisdom he has tapped Milo as his campaign manager. Nick has tagged along in order to desperately attempt to cling to relevance .

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Cloacan said:
yet Fuentes is still out there winning continuously
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How so?

Cloacan said:
No matter how bad he loses, the experience will gird him for a real campaign. He's young enough and independent enough to where the only way to sink him is with criminal charges.
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You don't need to sink someone who has no wind in their sails to begin with. He has extremely limited reach/appeal outside of his AF audience, his behavior is completely counter to expanding that reach, and he has no shortage of fodder that opponents could use to make fun of him.
 
Cloacan said:
They say that every year, and yet Fuentes is still out there winning continuously. I think Ye24 is a stepping stone. No matter how bad he loses, the experience will gird him for a real campaign. He's young enough and independent enough to where the only way to sink him is with criminal charges. Unless he really fucks up and catches legal charges, or until internet is locked down tight (soon enough), he'll continue no problem.
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I'm sorry but both you and Godwinson are absolutely wrong, Americans are never going to seriously vote for someone that supports the Chinese Government over Taiwan, let alone in Illinois. If we've learned anything from Sargon and UKIP, it's that YouTubers/Streamers should never become real politicians, especially the ones that portray themselves as really 'edgy' and 'based' on the internet.
 
Delusional, catamite spacey the closeted seething tranny jerker is not as interesting intelligent as you think he is,hes also lazy as fuck
 
BoxerShorts47 said:
So, internet etiquette demands that I call you a newfag and tell you to lurk moar but I'm gonna try reasoning with you. This might be a futile.

Define winning? If someone is a loser aka low status or low self esteem then anything is winning: triggering the libs, making headlines, getting views, etc. Basically any attention is better than no attention and bad publicity is better than no publicity. Sadly, all groypers are losers so they think this is winning.

What is real winning? Attract more, upper-class/professional managerial class, people than you alienate. For every 1 person that Nick turns into a Jew-hater, 2+ decide to fight back against hate. Since the population is zero-sum, this means, that at best, Nick Fuentes would get 33% support rate but the people who support Nick are lower-class, white trash, so even if he could get 51+ support, the ruling class would never accept him. His movement is DOA and it has been from the very start because he chose to base it on retarded shit like Christianity and schitzo Jewish conspiracies like USS Liberty or Israel did 9/11.

The one thing that Nick got kinda right was that Jews are disproportionately in media/Hollywood but his recommendation of persecuting Jews because they aren't Christian doesn't appeal to most Christians.


Are you retarded? "Joe Biden is worse than Stalin" outrage doesn't appeal to people outside the GOP. The GOP's strategy of "The left is so bad that people MUST vote for us" isn't working anymore and the GOP is turning into the Conservative Party of Canada. Not surprisingly, Richard Spencer has been saying this for years so once again Fuentes is years behind the rest of the dissident movement.
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I meant winning as in he is personally winning.

For me, every time he appears with Kanye he brings joy to my life. That's the big win for me.

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Every day that goes by and there's not an Ethan Ralph + Kanye photo like this, is loss for me.

Big Miss Steak said:
How so?
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As of a couple of months ago, when he took a pepsi between the eyes, he could afford private security. The capability to afford private security is a good indicator he's doing pretty well.

2 Faces 2 Colours said:
I'm sorry but both you and Godwinson are absolutely wrong, Americans are never going to seriously vote for someone that supports the Chinese Government over Taiwan, let alone in Illinois. If we've learned anything from Sargon and UKIP, it's that YouTubers/Streamers should never become real politicians, especially the ones that portray themselves as really 'edgy' and 'based' on the internet.
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I think Fuentes is different. Where Sargon cucked, Fuentes has persevered. Fuentes has a Kanye, for one. I think if he rolls the propaganda out well (which should be extremely easy to handle - any seasoned shitposter understands how that game works better than most journos) he could have a big win via YE24 being a protest campaign. He can't technically win, not this time, but I think his work in the years following Ye24 will lead to political success.
 
Cloacan said:
As of a couple of months ago, when he took a pepsi between the eyes, he could afford private security. The capability to afford private security is a good indicator he's doing pretty well.
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I'd bet my next paycheck that Kanye covered those security expenses, not Nick.
Cloacan said:
Where Sargon cucked, Fuentes has persevered.
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Nick's positions shift to suit his needs. He hates blacks until he starts listening to rap more and then he tries to emulate black rapper culture. He hates Jews, until he's working with Jews and they're "the good ones." Milo's one of the good ones, until he gets fired and then Nick always knew he was a snake and didn't even think he was a real Jew. He was against Jews and women in politics until that one Jewess ran (forget her name). He's against degeneracy until he populates the top seats at AF with violent, alcoholic sex pests. He hates women and they deserve everything that happens to them until someone brings up his cancer-stricken mother. He hates lawlessness until top people at AF run into trouble with the law and then it's "criminals are based."
Cloacan said:
Fuentes has a Kanye, for one.
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Having Kanye on his side increases the entertainment value for us, but doesn't benefit a Nick political career at all. It's been years since anyone has taken Kanye's rants seriously, he's known to periodically go off the deep end, and the vast majority of the U.S. population finds Kanye's recent crusade to be schizo at best and intolerably hateful at worst. And I think a good number of people recognize that Nick is riding the coattails of a mentally ill man who needs help for the chance of fame.
Cloacan said:
I think if he rolls the propaganda out well (which should be extremely easy to handle - any seasoned shitposter understands how that game works better than most journos) he could have a big win via YE24 being a protest campaign. He can't technically win, not this time, but I think his work in the years following Ye24 will lead to political success.
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Shitposting is not comparable to a large-scale propaganda campaign. YE24 is already dead in the water. Nick has burned almost every single political bridge he had, and you need friends in politics. Nick has a long list of embarrassing or damaging things he has said on his show that can be trotted out onto mainstream media outlets to kneecap him. Nick might manage to expand his harem of young men and rake in more dono money, but he does not have a career in politics. And he knows this, because AF isn't nearly as politically active as it used to be.
 
Big Miss Steak said:
He hates until
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It certainly sounds like he has what it takes to succeed in politics.

Big Miss Steak said:
Having Kanye on his side increases the entertainment value for us, but doesn't benefit a Nick political career at all.
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His clout with kids has been enhanced significantly. I think he comes out of this stronger and with greater reach. His network has grown in exactly the right direction for him to continue to expand his influence among his target demographic. I'm not sure what he'll do with that, but he's riding something that will leave him better off than he was before. He'd really have to monumentally screw things up to somehow come out of this weaker.

Big Miss Steak said:
Shitposting is not comparable to a large-scale propaganda campaign. YE24 is already dead in the water.
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As a serious campaign, yes, but as a propaganda win? Hell no, it is wide open and easy to score major wins. One tactic would be for them to lampoon official campaign imagery from Biden and Trump and Desantis. That should be easy, since they're all lames. Their strength is actual grass roots boots on the ground. Fuentes has shown that he can organize groups to some degree of success. Haven't there been rumors that he already has teams doing whatever gayop shit?

A propaganda win with Ye24 should be simple. They can't win, but they can cause an upset with powerful social media campaigns.
 
2 Faces 2 Colours said:
I'm sorry but both you and Godwinson are absolutely wrong, Americans are never going to seriously vote for someone that supports the Chinese Government over Taiwan, let alone in Illinois.
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It's conceivable that China will have annexed Taiwan by the time Fuentes properly makes it into mainstream politics. By then the Americans will be so souped up on TikTok and Amazon products they'll see Chinese dominance as part of daily life.

Don't forget it took less than 4 years for Russia to go from politically irrelivant to the biggest threat to our democracy. In 4 years Nick will still be in his 20s
 
Cloacan said:
I meant winning as in he is personally winning.

For me, every time he appears with Kanye he brings joy to my life. That's the big win for me.

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Every day that goes by and there's not an Ethan Ralph + Kanye photo like this, is loss for me.


As of a couple of months ago, when he took a pepsi between the eyes, he could afford private security. The capability to afford private security is a good indicator he's doing pretty well.


I think Fuentes is different. Where Sargon cucked, Fuentes has persevered. Fuentes has a Kanye, for one. I think if he rolls the propaganda out well (which should be extremely easy to handle - any seasoned shitposter understands how that game works better than most journos) he could have a big win via YE24 being a protest campaign. He can't technically win, not this time, but I think his work in the years following Ye24 will lead to political success.
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Nick's simping for Kanye is creepy and cringe. No serious White Nationalist would ever stoop to simping for a Black man for clout. If Nick was serious, he could get Kanye to condemn race-mixing. That would be a real win and that would change the culture.

Cloacan said:
It certainly sounds like he has what it takes to succeed in politics.


His clout with kids has been enhanced significantly. I think he comes out of this stronger and with greater reach. His network has grown in exactly the right direction for him to continue to expand his influence among his target demographic. I'm not sure what he'll do with that, but he's riding something that will leave him better off than he was before. He'd really have to monumentally screw things up to somehow come out of this weaker.


As a serious campaign, yes, but as a propaganda win? Hell no, it is wide open and easy to score major wins. One tactic would be for them to lampoon official campaign imagery from Biden and Trump and Desantis. That should be easy, since they're all lames. Their strength is actual grass roots boots on the ground. Fuentes has shown that he can organize groups to some degree of success. Haven't there been rumors that he already has teams doing whatever gayop shit?

A propaganda win with Ye24 should be simple. They can't win, but they can cause an upset with powerful social media campaigns.
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ROFL. AF and Nick Fuentes were never viable. How many times has Nick said that "AF is back." If his movement is succeeding then why does it constantly need to come back? Here is Nick's latest Telegram rant.

"...things haven't changed at all since I started doing my show 6 years ago."
"We are losing ground."

Nick has a pattern. He spouts unhinged bullshit 99% of the time and then, eventually, his inner conscience takes over and he posts his true, unnarcissistic feelings. Nick is a failure and even Nick knows it, deep-down. At this point, in 2023, he has burned through all his goodwill and he is never coming back, just like Richard Spencer or Mike Enoch. It's over.


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Big Miss Steak said:
Milo's one of the good ones, until he gets fired and then Nick always knew he was a snake and didn't even think he was a real Jew.
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How does anyone not know Milo is a snake at this point? You have to be practically fucking retarded not to have noticed he's snaked on literally every person who ever trusted him.
 
AnOminous said:
How does anyone not know Milo is a snake at this point? You have to be practically fucking retarded not to have noticed he's snaked on literally every person who ever trusted him.
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Birds of a feather flock together. Milo' backstabbing is nice compared to Nick's backstabbing. Nick has fucked everyone who has trusted him (e.g. MTG, Jaden, etc.).
 
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