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[OddEyes]

Just stop is a literal child
If he says anything stupid no fucking shit because he is a kid not a lolcow.

The dramas around just stop and blowblax are lolcow magnets though because h3h3 flipped over blowbax just reading the screenshots of stuff h3h3 actually said and got that side of the cc mad at him ever since for it.

While just stop attracts lolcows like antoons to try and "reason," with them (because he is a stupid kid still and hasn't realised yet that won't work or stop shit) then is shocked when antoon does werid shit in response.

Hasn't stopped some idiots like Thumin from attempting to label the kid as a racist

 

[SpergPatrol]

Hasn't stopped some idiots like Thumin from attempting to label the kid as a racist

Why have you mentioned that twice now when they sorted that out months ago?
They both apologized to each other about that because it was a genuine misunderstanding between the two.

But you aren't wrong with him being targeted just not by Thumin and the others involved in the peaches drama.

Rumor has it that behind the scenes some ranter is going to call out just stop soon.
I found out because that ranter told some of their friends who've been spreading around for a year now that a video is being made on him but not sharing on what it is about yet.

But all I know is apparently within in the next few months there is apparently going to be a huge exposed video on just stop.

In short, some funny shit is about to go down and some guy about to have a slap fight with a 17 year old.

 

[OddEyes]

Why have you mentioned that twice now when they sorted that out months ago?
They both apologized to each other about that because it was a genuine misunderstanding between the two.

But you aren't wrong with him being targeted just not by Thumin and the others involved in the peaches drama.

Rumor has it that behind the scenes some ranter is going to call out just stop soon.
I found out because that ranter told some of their friends who've been spreading around for a year now that a video is being made on him but not sharing on what it is about yet.

But all I know is apparently within in the next few months there is apparently going to be a huge exposed video on just stop.

In short, some funny shit is about to go down and some guy about to have a slap fight with a 17 year old.

Because it's something that these idiots in the CC like to do - Like that whole John Swan with Pieman thing - And just goes to show that these people would rather dive head first into an empty pool than think "Wait, this is a kid"

The reason I brought it up here is that despite the age, these people are willing to label ANYONE who even remotely disagrees with them as the worst thing they possibly can.

Also, if we're talking rumors, I even heard rumor that one of the other big names in the Peaches drama- Omnia, accused Just Stop of being manipulated by another commentator. Dunno who though (if I had to speculate, maybe JustARobot? Would make sense)

Getting back to your Rumor, I'm willing to make a wager that the person who's gonna do that... Is thenamesjunkie. Not only would it fit junkie to go after a kid for some things that Junkie has openly opposed to (If you search Prison Mate Luke's response to Just Stop's criticism, you'll find Junkie in the Comment section - Fun fact as well, Junkie has also openly been friendly with people like Kai and Omnia, and has even shunned other people - Even to the point where he left a discord group that was meant to deal with a serial doxer) - but considering how long it takes him to make his long videos MONTHS after the drama's passed, that would line up with his M.O.

Another reason why I suspect Junkie is how he's willing to throw people under the bus, including those who he worked with - Peaches and Mangakamen come to mind - The latter in his discord server once ranted about how Junkie stabbed him in the back.

But hey, just rumors and speculation.

 

[who dare wins?]

I am not sure why you are just linking random commentators but diesel is not a lolcow ethier.

He just another post as much shit until it sticks ranter.

People like him get into dumb dramas not because of any cow behavior, but because they make a ton of videos without researching anything as fast as possible everyday.

With content like that being made so quickly, they will say something stupid in response to a drama especially if it is still on going.

uh huh, I only posted him to see whether or not you or others on here thought his behaviour was lolcow-ish in anyway, shape or form whatsoever.

 

[SpergPatrol]

Because it's something that these idiots in the CC like to do - Like that whole John Swan with Pieman thing - And just goes to show that these people would rather dive head first into an empty pool than think "Wait, this is a kid"

The reason I brought it up here is that despite the age, these people are willing to label ANYONE who even remotely disagrees with them as the worst thing they possibly can.

Also, if we're talking rumors, I even heard rumor that one of the other big names in the Peaches drama- Omnia, accused Just Stop of being manipulated by another commentator. Dunno who though (if I had to speculate, maybe JustARobot? Would make sense)

Getting back to your Rumor, I'm willing to make a wager that the person who's gonna do that... Is thenamesjunkie. Not only would it fit junkie to go after a kid for some things that Junkie has openly opposed to (If you search Prison Mate Luke's response to Just Stop's criticism, you'll find Junkie in the Comment section - Fun fact as well, Junkie has also openly been friendly with people like Kai and Omnia, and has even shunned other people - Even to the point where he left a discord group that was meant to deal with a serial doxer) - but considering how long it takes him to make his long videos MONTHS after the drama's passed, that would line up with his M.O.

Another reason why I suspect Junkie is how he's willing to throw people under the bus, including those who he worked with - Peaches and Mangakamen come to mind - The latter in his discord server once ranted about how Junkie stabbed him in the back.

But hey, just rumors and speculation.

From what I heard it isn't junkie because when people talked about it they referred to this ranter as a girl.
Which girl I don't know but all I know is that it isn't omina or thumin from what's been going around.

Also, Junkie from what I been hearing might quite commentaries altogether.

Turns out though that throwing them under the bus narrative was not true as Manga fully agreed to share the script publically in junkie's video prior to even showing Omina.
Aka it would have been shown to everyone and Manga was fully aware of that, but manga got upset because he didn't think Omina would see it too despite agreeing to share it with the entire internet.

In short, Junkie didn't throw anyone under the bus, Manga fully agreed when asked directly by Junkie to show his shit to the entire internet but got upset when Omina saw it too.

It is genuinely one of the dumbest slap fights and it's a narrative they have been pushing to dance around the fact that what manga shared showed that peaches on the same day saying omina and her were friends went to work on the script about Omina without telling omina about it.

So they are trying to turn it as junkie backstabbed them when, in reality, junkie is just the scapegoat to distract from the fact Peaches was willing to even help edit a script on someone she called a friend.

Even though it was grammar, the issue was that Peaches would even work on a script about her friend at all without telling them or even mentioning what was going on.

It is dumb but that is what happened that was even confirmed by Manga himself he gave Junkie that permission.

While we are at it, that discord server is also considered a joke and only has been seen more as such as time goes on as it gains more attention by the communities.

See the discord server will actively refuse to do anything to actually stop the doxxer aka that server just sits around and whines all day and doesn't do anything to stop what's going on.

The other communities even ones similar like the cartoon community aren't having a problem with the doxxer because they know how to handle their shit and they prepared for them, unlike the CC.

But like you said, the CC is filled with people who don't think for two seconds about something before diving headfirst so unlike everyone else who got it under control; they are still being affected due to their inaction and outright incompetence.

 

[OddEyes]

Turns out though that throwing them under the bus narrative was not true as Manga fully agreed to share the script publically in junkie's video prior to even showing Omina.
Aka it would have been shown to everyone and Manga was fully aware of that, but manga got upset because he didn't think Omina would see it too despite agreeing to share it with the entire internet.

In short, Junkie didn't throw anyone under the bus, Manga fully agreed when asked directly by Junkie to show his shit to the entire internet but got upset when Omina saw it too.

That wasn't what Kamen got upset about - He was upset that Junkie didn't ask him questions about the single edit that Peaches did, and just went to Omnia, who took that and used that to say "See? Peaches edited a script that was against me, she's a terrible friend". Apparently, Junkie had interviewed Kamen about the script earlier for JAR's Toby video, and the question never came up, and apparently according to what Kamen said "Ask me any questions if you got them".

After Junkie's video came out, Kamen wanted to talk to Junkie about some misinformation that was in Junkie's whole "Toby video" where apparently after an hour long call beforehand (around the time Omnia got the screenshot), Junkie agreed to some terms... But basically backhandedly slapped Kamen in the face and when Kamen went to talk to him about it - Junkie blocked him on twitter and when trying to talk to him privately, Junkie went "How about NOPE" and left the group chat that they had the discussion in after Kamen basically said "we need to talk".

Can't confirm this, since this is what Kamen, and his witness (person who was in the call to act as a fourth party since Kamen was talking to Junkie and his editor about this situation) have stated.

The situation you're referring to with Manga sharing the script is missing a few details... Since Junkie admitted publicly on his twitter that he was in the wrong for not coming to Manga to ask questions about the situation with the script - I don't know how you missed that.

Screenshot if you don't believe me:

I dunno, if I was Kamen, got an apology like this, and got basically slapped in the face afterwards - That seems like throwing under the bus to me. But hey, what do I know?

Edit: Just to clarify, since I'm an idiot... The order of events from what I understand:

Kamen gives Junkie access to script
Junkie gives screenshot to omnia
Omnia makes video
Kamen talks to Junkie and editor about this
Junkie apologizes (shown above) publicly admitting fault for not talking to kamen
Junkie apparently had misinformation in his Toby video
Kamen tries to talk to junkie privately
Junkie blocks and runs away
Kamen says junkie threw him under the bus

Hard to tell if this is the truth since a lot of this is behind closed doors, but considering that Kamen tried to talk this out privately with Junkie pulling that crap? Yeah, I can see how it's throwing him under the bus since he at least tried to keep it private.

So they are trying to turn it as junkie backstabbed them when, in reality, junkie is just the scapegoat to distract from the fact Peaches was willing to even help edit a script on someone she called a friend.

Even though it was grammar, the issue was that Peaches would even work on a script about her friend at all without telling them or even mentioning what was going on.

It is dumb but that is what happened that was even confirmed by Manga himself he gave Junkie that permission.

Unfortunately that doesn't fly, because as shown in Peaches video on the subject with Omnia, she showed a screenshot from BEFORE she worked on the script that Omnia outright stated that they weren't friends. Even then, Kamen's issue wasn't that Junkie shared it, as I stated, it was that Junkie went directly to Omnia without talking to him about it - Something that Junkie admitted to on twitter he was in the wrong about and in his Toby video.

While we are at it, that discord server is also considered a joke and only has been seen more as such as time goes on as it gains more attention by the communities.

I think we're talking about different doxing situations. Because a lot of the members I heard weren't part of the CC, but were artists who were affected by this doxxer.

Edit 2: Really dude?

 

[Burning Fanatic]

This thread brings nothing but suffering.

 

[SpergPatrol]

This thread brings nothing but suffering.

Label it as trashfire like it deserves to be

Do it you coward!

 

[Burning Fanatic]

Label it as trashfire like it deserves to be

Do it you coward!

I'd much rather do the whole thread all over again and just let this one burn.

 

[Ita Mori]

It's quite something to see kiwis say "yeah these guys all suck, except for guy-I-watch, who's insert-excuse-here."
Much like the Skeptics and Breadtubers, they're all retards. Every time someone says X is an exception or one of the good ones, it turns out X was just as degenerate or gay as the rest of em.

 

[OddEyes]

I'd much rather do the whole thread all over again and just let this one burn.

What would stop that thread from going up into flames?

 

[Burning Fanatic]

Bit more focus with the OP, and likely some more moderation to keep things on topic. Though that’s just me being very optimistic.

 

[OddEyes]

Bit more focus with the OP, and likely some more moderation to keep things on topic. Though that’s just me being very optimistic.

Not to sound indignant, and maybe I'm not a more dedicated kiwi, what would be the qualifications for staying on topic? Stuff like seeing Memology101 popping in to show off his e-dick I can see. But if it's drama related to members in the CC, how does that work? Sorry if I'm sounding stupid, but I legit wanna know what qualifies as off topic or not for this nebulous community

 

[BlackPuppet]

A bit more on topic but MangaKamen is just not a very engaging YTer. His videos are way too long and they rely so heavily on playing clips of Persona, Yakuza, or whatever game/movie he's into at the time. It's so obnoxious to the point where there are times I'm listening thinking it's a source to the video.

 

[Burning Fanatic]

It's quite something to see kiwis say "yeah these guys all suck, except for guy-I-watch, who's insert-excuse-here."
Much like the Skeptics and Breadtubers, they're all retards. Every time someone says X is an exception or one of the good ones, it turns out X was just as degenerate or gay as the rest of em.

Tbf, unlike the Skeptics and Breatubers who were nearly all based around politics involving “sjws”, commentary channels are mostly based around covering notable drama and happenings. So I do think it’s fair to say that certain channels can make for an exception so long as their content is pretty solid, and they’re keeping their private lives and drama out of public discourse.

Not to sound indignant, and maybe I'm not a more dedicated kiwi, what would be the qualifications for staying on topic? Stuff like seeing Memology101 popping in to show off his e-dick I can see. But if it's drama related to members in the CC, how does that work? Sorry if I'm sounding stupid, but I legit wanna know what qualifies as off topic or not for this nebulous community

When this thread started out, OP was a complete scattershot in terms of focus. Lot of the replies tried to justify why X was a cow and deserved ridicule, yet there still wasn’t a whole lot to go off of.
If the thread were to restart, I think it could be kept on topic so long as people talk mainly about any actual drama going on in the community, given how there’s tons of it that keeps popping up.

 

[SpergPatrol]

Tbf, unlike the Skeptics and Breatubers who were nearly all based around politics involving “sjws”, commentary channels are mostly based around covering notable drama and happenings. So I do think it’s fair to say that certain channels can make for an exception so long as their content is pretty solid, and they’re keeping their private lives and drama out of public discourse.

When this thread started out, OP was a complete scattershot in terms of focus. Lot of the replies tried to justify why X was a cow and deserved ridicule, yet there still wasn’t a whole lot to go off of.
If the thread were to restart, I think it could be kept on topic so long as people talk mainly about any actual drama going on in the community, given how there’s tons of it that keeps popping up.

Well, maybe we could make a Happenings board for it? That way we can discuss the dramas and if anyone does actually turn out to be an actual lolcow, we can put it in here with an OP update listing everything from that thread showing how they are a cow in detail if we do genuinely find something.

Because yeah I do agree, this thread is more scrambled than most of the others because the subject is too broad I think. Maybe if we have a more focused board dedicated to certain aspects or certain niches of the communities maybe that could help?

 

[Sprate Header]

Well, maybe we could make a Happenings board for it? That way we can discuss the dramas and if anyone does actually turn out to be an actual lolcow, we can put it in here with an OP update listing everything from that thread showing how they are a cow in detail if we do genuinely find something.

Because yeah I do agree, this thread is more scrambled than most of the others because the subject is too broad I think. Maybe if we have a more focused board dedicated to certain aspects or certain niches of the communities maybe that could help?

If only there was a board for vapid attention-whores...

 

[OddEyes]

A bit more on topic but MangaKamen is just not a very engaging YTer. His videos are way too long and they rely so heavily on playing clips of Persona, Yakuza, or whatever game/movie he's into at the time. It's so obnoxious to the point where there are times I'm listening thinking it's a source to the video.

I don't agree with that - Mainly because his videos can range from the 10 minute mark to the whatever mark, especially his review based content. The clip thing can be annoying sure, but you could say that about a lot of youtubers. His last two videos were review based and they hardly relied on the clip thing.

Hell, his commentary videos on more recent topics - The longest one in recent time was 24 minutes, and the purpose was to just make fun of Prison Mate Luke. Heck, his 'return' to Game Theory video barely even scratched 10 minutes.

I will say though, he needs to work on cutting out his flubs and making sure that he doesn't cut himself off. That and the dude needs to really learn to turn off twitter. He tends to stab himself in the back at times.

Because yeah I do agree, this thread is more scrambled than most of the others because the subject is too broad I think. Maybe if we have a more focused board dedicated to certain aspects or certain niches of the communities maybe that could help?

Let's see... There's the spergs in the Slideshow Commentary Community (with the dreaded arms crossed avatars), the drama whores of the Art Commentary Community, and the Drama Commentary Community filled with that tight clique of fatties and lispy soapboxers.

While I agree that something like that would be effective, these communities still do interact with each other... Like mixing oil and water, but still mixing. Maybe have something like dedicate threads to the specific niches, but have a mega thread that basically acts as an archive for all the hooplahs in it?

 

[nechbozeda]

John Swan has officially returned.

https://twitter.com/JohnSwanYT/status/1393976593123471361

 

[OddEyes]

John Swan has officially returned.

https://twitter.com/JohnSwanYT/status/1393976593123471361

Again?