Youtube General thread (formerly Youtube Censorship discussion thread)

[Poop A Loop]

People who use sponsorblock or revanced are a drop in the bucket compared to normies. The ease of just plopping your kid in front of a playlist of some pajeet's AI-generated offbrand lego cartoon for 6 hours is just too attractive. The parents usually aren't even around to at least recognize that there are too many ads so I have zero hope for anything to improve. I know when I just need an hour to clean the house without sacrificing my free time after his bedtime causes me to stick the kiddo in front of a couple of How It's Made videos when he refuses to play with toys and just says "I'm bored" so I sympathize in a way.

There are millions more of them then there are of us and the only way the apocalypse of ads will decrease is if someone makes a legitimate niche offering for whatever market wants it the most. Big companies like Google are usually staffed with leadership that think they're smarter than everyone else so a popular revolt wouldn't even do anything if it happened at all. YouTube has a better chance of just burning to the ground.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

I switched off Gmail for Protonmail. I'll switch off everything Google related if I have to.

How has Protonmail been, Gmail is the last normie thing I have that I have from Google and after deprecating a bunch of things I like and letting the FBI rifle through all of your shit for no fucking reason, I'm ready to do something it this weekend. It's either that or I roll my own mail server somewhere.

Like Twitch is super aggressive with ads so I just don't watch. I never use Twitch, ever.

The correct amount of hours to spend watching Twitch if you're a well-adjusted person is approximately zero. Twitch is a gateway drug to a black market troonshine addiction and a goon cave, sponsored by globohomo.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

I also need to stop being lazy and move my shit off gmail. I do have a protonmail I use for various things but I haven't really gone out and moved everything still on gmail/yahoo/outlook over to protonmail.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

People who use sponsorblock or revanced are a drop in the bucket compared to normies. The ease of just plopping your kid in front of a playlist of some pajeet's AI-generated offbrand lego cartoon for 6 hours is just too attractive. The parents usually aren't even around to at least recognize that there are too many ads so I have zero hope for anything to improve. I know when I just need an hour to clean the house without sacrificing my free time after his bedtime causes me to stick the kiddo in front of a couple of How It's Made videos when he refuses to play with toys and just says "I'm bored" so I sympathize in a way.

There are millions more of them then there are of us and the only way the apocalypse of ads will decrease is if someone makes a legitimate niche offering for whatever market wants it the most. Big companies like Google are usually staffed with leadership that think they're smarter than everyone else so a popular revolt wouldn't even do anything if it happened at all. YouTube has a better chance of just burning to the ground.

Which brings up the question: Why the fuck are they doing this? Why is Google waging total war on 1% (or whatever) of their users, who are either going to find a way around ads, or just leave?

It don't make no sense, Tone.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

So if Youtube does die, what website becomes the new Youtube? I know it's not going to be Vidlii because it has way too many ISIS beheading videos, it might be Bitchute but Bitchute has all those right-wing videos even though Bitchute rules have become pozzed.

 

[Null]

ow has Protonmail been, Gmail is the last normie thing I have that I have from Google and after deprecating a bunch of things I like and letting the FBI rifle through all of your shit for no fucking reason, I'm ready to do something it this weekend. It's either that or I roll my own mail server somewhere.

Proton is great

 

[Mikoyan]

Which brings up the question: Why the fuck are they doing this? Why is Google waging total war on 1% (or whatever) of their users, who are either going to find a way around ads, or just leave?

It don't make no sense, Tone.

It's kind of funny. Once upon a time I worked in adtech. The developers there were totally cool with adblock, on the theory that 'why do I want to spend resources showing ads to people who hate ads?'

 

[Spudnik]

Holy shit. Everyone at Google should kill themselves. In real life, not in Minecraft.

In their time, a pariah. In our time, a paragon. Inshallah.

I know when I just need an hour to clean the house without sacrificing my free time after his bedtime causes me to stick the kiddo in front of a couple of How It's Made videos when he refuses to play with toys and just says "I'm bored" so I sympathize in a way.

When I was growing up, whenever I complained about being bored, my mom would tell me "you're allowed to be bored sometimes". Ultimately, I think this was a good lesson. Now, I'm a master of handling boredom. I would literally stare at a blank wall than watch an ad, and it would be just as enriching and informative.

 

[Sperghetti]

I find youtube is only bearable with an adblocker. I don't have any desire to give them money for the content they provide.

If I'm going to be part of money changing hands for video content, it's because I bought a Blu-Ray.

I don't think there's ever been a scenario where my liking of a media platform outweighed my hatred of ads.

 

[Fartificial Insmelligence]

It looks they are upping the faggotry. Link. Archive.

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Youtube’s been getting real sneaky with its ad shenanigans lately, the last few months I’ll go to watch a podcast clip, Joe Rogan for example, and when he says “pull up the clip Jamie” it’ll inject the ad right there to trick people into thinking it’s the clip from the show…

 

[Mikoyan]

Youtube’s been getting real sneaky with its ad shenanigans lately, the last few months I’ll go to watch a podcast clip, Joe Rogan for example, and when he says “pull up the clip Jamie” it’ll inject the ad right there to trick people into thinking it’s the clip from the show…

That could actually be them doing it. The bigger you get the more control you get over the ad insertion points.

 

[Schpoots]

It's nuts how compliant people are with ads. I know somebody that refuses to use blockers because they don't want to click a button every now and then to un-break a site. I also know a tech savvy person that refuses to block ads because they think people deserve the money. I have to assume most people are like those two and it totally blackpills me on the concept of ads ever going away.

 

[LesDiscrets]

I pretty much exclusively use Freetube nowadays. You can sub to channels and make your own playlists without even needing to login to youtube. It only breaks when youtube does bigger backend changes, but since it falls back invidious it's not much of a problem.

From their github

How does it work?​

FreeTube uses a built in extractor to grab and serve data / videos. The Invidious API can also optionally be used. FreeTube does not use any official APIs to obtain data. While YouTube can still see your video requests, it can no longer track you using cookies or JavaScript. Your subscriptions and history are stored locally on your computer and never sent out.

 

[30+GameOvers]

It's nuts how compliant people are with ads. I know somebody that refuses to use blockers because they don't want to click a button every now and then to un-break a site. I also know a tech savvy person that refuses to block ads because they think people deserve the money. I have to assume most people are like those two and it totally blackpills me on the concept of ads ever going away.

Niggercattle is as niggercattle does. I let everyone I know and meet be informed of Invidious and you would be surprised how just a simple pitch of "Youtube but with no ads or tracking" goes a long way. At this point, I stopped caring about those kinds of people you described, I would rather join in on the fun and try to sucker these morons out of their money as well. A fool and their dollar will soon be separated, nothing will ever change that.

 

[Ghostse]

Louis Rossmann showed a while back that his entire catalog was retroactively changed to include midroll ads with the only way to change it to turn it off one by one for thousands of videos. At that point he just told people to watch him on Odysee. I just assume everything is Youtube at this point, fuck them.

There are APIs (I believe Youtube caved to creator uproar and gave buttons to do this for larger channels) to handle this automatically, and yeah I was aware of that so something like 5 years old gets a pass.

I am talking about the fuckstakes who have uploaded somethign about a month ago, its a 3 minute video stretched to 14 and there 3-4 mid-rolls.

 

[tehpope]

If they're being injected directly into the video stream I would assume they will be in yt-dlp downloaded videos as well.

yt-dlp has built-in support for sponsorblock. It or another service could be used to mark when the ads start and then either bookmark the time or just cut the ad out using ffmpeg. It can be done losslessly, but you might get a second of an ad if the keyframe is after the ad starts.

Life, finds a way.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

If they're being injected directly into the video stream I would assume they will be in yt-dlp downloaded videos as well.

archiving is going to get fucked over because of this.

Now anyone that's archiving a video needs to remove the ads manually with a video editor and then save it, which is just more time consuming unless you don't mind watching the same video you just watched again.

 

[Mikoyan]

archiving is going to get fucked over because of this.

Enh. There shouldn't be anything missing. And I'm sure they'll splice it in on i-frame boundaries, so slicing it out will be easier.

 

[87q6839b]

I am really surprised google didn't do this earlier. The usual agglomerate of free/foostard crybabies would make a fuss for two weeks, and the cattle mass would continue using the service unbothered. Youtube does not need those 5.3 million stallman/luke smith wannabes on their platform.

I hate ads so much. I also hate everything that makes me more cattle-like, and listen to 90% of my NewPipe feed, treating it like a podcast. If I get ads in my stream, I'll switch to audiobooks entirely. My music is already also all offline mp3's.

a service could be used to mark when the ads start

It would only work for popular videos. I archive entire, often niche, channels at once.
When I like a song, I dump it into a folder, if I had to slice & dice it with audacity afterwards, I'd become insane.

It's nuts how compliant people are with ads.

Look at your average person browsing tiktok in the train. It's hopeless.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Isn't ubiquitous advertising a usual part of cyberpunk dystopian fiction?