You've been offered immortality, will you take it?

[Mesh Gear Fox]

One normal human life span is enough for me. I think after many many eons I'd go insane. The human psyche wasn't designed for eternity. I look forward to one day being free from this existence.

 

[Rembrandt]

Immortality dillemas are secretly personality checks if the person in question accepts their inevitable death or not. Logically I should say no, but that's not what my primal survival part of the brain wants to admit to.

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

For the after earth argument, and your floating in space. Could you just "swim" until you hit some planet. Then when your on said planet make some cumshrooms and watch them evolve eventually into sentient life.?Then over millions of years, rule as a god.

EDIT: Actually.... your immortality could disprove the beliefs of the two paedophile desert tribes. Your long life and wisdom could make you one of the elites as someone said but you could use this fortune to eventually make space travel a possibility.

Earth isn't going anywhere soon so it could be a definite possibility.

You wouldn't even needto float through space if humanity colonised other planets. You could be sitting in some lounge in a big spaceship getting countless blowies off grateful genetically engineered cat girls for saving humanity.

 

[skykiii]

I'm of the "yes, but only if your immortality has an off switch" argument.

See, I tend to think limited human lifespans are a part of everything wrong with society. The son not caring about the works of the father. Just for an autistic example, if JRR Tolkien was alive he would likely prevent the rape of his work that companies like Amazon are doing. You could apply that sentiment to all sorts of popular figures, actually.... I tend to think that if classic leftists like MLK were immortal they would have prevented the modern left from going completely insane. Or if Jesus hadn't let himself be nailed to the cross, he would have probably had a say against the atrocities that atheists like to hold against religion.

Of course you aleady see the issue: all of those are cases where the immortal would guide society, and most of us don't want that.

My own personal immortality fantasy is one where I'm immortal, but also have a pocket universe I can fuck off to whenever I want, and whenever I come back only a half-second has passed in real-world time. So for example if I decide I hate life and just want to spend a million years playing Super Nintendo games without missing something important, I could.... or alternatively I could use it to cheat and do a bunch of art and writing before coming back to Earth. No more schedule slippage!

...... Ultimately my problem with these decisions is I hate 100% commitment. I always want an out or an off switch.

 

[Associate Rick]

Soundtrack for this thread

 

[WolfeTone]

"And in the end of days, they will yearn for death, but death will not find them."

No.

 

[RACISM]

Sure, sign me up. The stuff about floating through the stars gave menopause for thought, but I've studied astral projection extensively and I reckon I would be fine.

If I was immortal, eventually I would see all the niggers dead.

 

[Letora]

Senescence will halt for your body at around age 40-50, so it's not like you'll be young again, but it won't get worse than that. All types of wounds, whether internal or external regenerate at the normal pace of your body's age/condition, even if without resources, so you won't die/get extremely ill due to hunger/something else either, but mild pain remains if you're not careful.

If you're already a cripple, will you get un-crippled upon accepting immortality? Wheelchair users can walk again?

What if you have genetic defects that you've had surgically altered? Will they regenerate back to your genetic blueprint? Wisdom teeth growing back, bunions and hammer toes growing back, exploding gallbladder and tonsils growing back, lipomas, etc.?

 

[Radola Gajda]

What happens when the universe dies

Realistically you will lose your sanity long before that point.

 

[We Are The Witches]

My own biggest issue with what I've written is that in the end, human bodies are too fragile and weak, and for a lack of a better word, primitive. So two main problems arise, what if you're sucked into a black hole, star, or even buried by a massive landslide?

I left this as your body being trapped there until something happened (like if a second explosion/Big Bang happened), but that takes away too much from people considering immortality, so let's assume that if that were to happen and your body gets FUBAR (before regenerating) or you're under super extreme levels of anxiety, your consciousness would fade away from your current brain, but you would eventually spawn randomly elsewhere (your body would begin to create itself out of nothing), i.e: the immortal substance of yourself must go on, but unable to compensate due to those situations, it escapes and projects itself elsewhere.

Let's also assume the age cap is not 40-50 years, but 25-30.

Finally, like someone else pointed out, the creatures around you could in theory surpass you greatly in a variety of aspects, so "evolution" of your body can now happen over long periods of time, if you consciously allow it (let's say it's a sixth sense, and not dependent on the environment, but on you). You'll always have a "psychological trigger" that you can turn on to evolve/devolve into your original body, if something goes wrong.

You can now answer if you wish with these new premises.

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how would you establish and maintain your identity, though?

not in the intellectual or spiritual sense, but in the practical sense that would allow you to function in the world ... how would you obtain identification? how would you earn or spend money? how would you acquire anything that you would want or need without the ability to verify who you are as time passes?

If I'm understanding you correctly, society would keep track of who you are (like everyone else), and when realizing you're unable to die, you'd be considered an oddity and just keep going on living with your same legal identity.

Maybe you'd be considered a star and get on TV shows and interviews like (I don't know, Jennifer Aniston), and stay like that. Appearing once in a while in some radio shows to talk about "old stuff", like a veteran.

What happens when the universe dies

That would be something you'd have to see for yourself.

Immortality is always a no go unless there's an available out.

Anyways there's no way a person could tolerate floating through the void for potentially thousands of times the normal human lifespan with no novel stimuli without desensitizing and eventually losing their consciousness entirely.

Also if a person's body regenerates at a normal rate that they would given their injuries, how does that work when they fall into a star, or even better into a black hole and are ripped apart down to their constituent particles?

Is there no interruption in consciousness? Then where and how do thoughts occur? Can you stick your head in an industrial meat grinder for a break until your brain regenerates?

I don't know, the whole thing seems very profane and against the natural order.

This immortality would prevent your brain from going "extremely wrong", so you wouldn't lose consciousness permanently or become irremediably crazy.

In my original text, the no loss of consciousness was meant to be only for oxygen deprivation, so you can lose consciousness by something else, but you'd eventually regain it.

If you're already a cripple, will you get un-crippled upon accepting immortality? Wheelchair users can walk again?

What if you have genetic defects that you've had surgically altered? Will they regenerate back to your genetic blueprint? Wisdom teeth growing back, bunions and hammer toes growing back, exploding gallbladder and tonsils growing back, lipomas, etc.?

Yes, let's do that.
With the new premises, you can "evolve" out of it with your mere consciousness, however it may take a bit of time.

incoming

The biggest personal catches are with the physicality and memory of a mid-40s adult, but those are easily offset through good diet, exercise, and neurological stimulation. Most things that tend to turn you stupid are the same things that are lethal to the brain, so odds are the immortality would offset if not outright prevent those, if it's capable of protecting you from asphyxiation.

The next issue is seeing all the people you know die, which is of course traumatizing and tragic, but I'm gonna reframe the problem here: You would not choose to ever give up on any positive close bonds you have with someone - familial, romantic, platonic, etc - most likely. They are also going to die regardless of your own mortality. You're still gonna meet new people and likely forge new bonds if you're immortal. Obviously these aren't replacements, but the odds of them having the same level of sentimental and emotional impact on you are pretty high. You obviously wouldn't want to give up on those once you've formed them. They also would inevitably die. But choosing against immortality now retroactively gives up on them. So this problem's a lot more autistic and semantic and arbitrary than it looks and isn't really something you can objectively say is good or bad. It's more a question of how used to death you already are.

Then the final issue is the loss of earth, heat death of the universe, etc - it's physically impossible to know what any of that could or would even be like. Even trying to speculate about it aside from "You'll likely have to deal with the asphyxiation discomfort if or when you stop being on Earth" is an exercise in futility.

Too autistic didn't read: Too many unknown variables to consider bad, also I want to live long enough to be able to forget the image of Adam Kovic's asshole and this is the best way to do it.

A couple of things have been added to this experiment, and you're right.

However that's one of the points of this, if you believe that there's truly nothing after death, absolutely nothing, will you take this offer and break that fate?
Will you end as nothing and cease, or say the hell with it, let's try something truly unique and become what no one has nor will.

 

[God of Nothing]

Far too many risk factors. I don't think I could be a moral person if I lived forever. Over time, I'm sure I'd begin to view humanity as a whole as my playthings. Sure, I'd probably change a lot of things, get rid of a lot of bullshit, and get this species back on track, but I will end up taking liberties out of sheer boredom. They'll grow until I am not the person I once was. While it'd be cool to see what the world has to offer, I'll have to see everything die. There's also the potential end of the universe to worry about if any of the theories are correct. Maybe that can change if technology really does reach the level of magic.

Not really scared of things like genetics because shit like CRISPR is already a thing. Unless there's some hard limits I'm not aware of. Also, regeneration is a must or god fucking no. That's just an ironic hell. It'd be super cool if we evolved into beings of pure consciousness to leave this meatbagginess behind, but I doubt that happening naturally.

If I was presented with the opportunity in real life rather than a hypothetical, I would probably take it though. Not out of fear of death but for the possibility of my existence being something more. I guess that's kind of selfish. Then again, so is fearing living forever just because others' lives will weigh more or less on you.

 

[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

I have enough trouble dealing with seeing how much the world changes within my own lifetime. To live long enough to see society morph so wholly that its all completely alien would be a new and fresh hell. There's also no way mentioned to share this immortality so you'll only have comparatively short and shallow relationships.

Pass.

you know how you go through dogs in life like 4 or 5 cause they age more than us?


now imagine doing that with wives like the Twilight mf

 

[Overly Serious]

I'll try anything once.

 

[Hepativore]

I would opt for biological immortality, but not invincibility as being stuck on Earth as the atmosphere burns away and the planet being engulfed during the red giant phase of our sun does not sound like fun.

There are biologically-immortal organisms, so this is not impossible. However, I have heard estimates saying that most people would only live an average of around 200 years or so even removing senescence as a cause of death, due to the rates of death by trauma such as accidents, suicide, or homicide.

I would like the ability to finally have the time to do whatever I wanted, and imagine being able to embark on centuries-long research projects. If biological immortality were available at the social level, then perhaps it would help people learn the value of patience and forethought.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

There's a good movie about this that I can recommend. It is low budget and 100% rhetorical dialogue but like I said, I can recommend it. It has some cheesy shit in it but it gets into some good points about supposed immortality.

 

[waratteruN]

Shit man, it'll be fun for the first few hundred years. And then they're going to invent another hundred new genders, or theres going to be a forever nigger war or something and I don't know if I can deal with that

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Bruh the moment my loved ones die I'm shuffling off this mortal coil, by force if necessary.

 

[Dysnomia]

Yeah sure. Why not. I have no problem being alone in the universe forever.