Zach Snyder is a shit director.. change my mind - Has Snyder made a single watchable film?

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I remember more Zach Snyder films than the entirety of the MCU since at least his shit is visually memorable. Considering how utterly fucked cinema nowadays, complaining about the guy that didn't make a movie for a few years is almost quaint.

 

[Mongo0o]

Snyder basically makes bollywood-tier spectacle nonsense that makes ludicrous amounts of money abroad. I still laugh at how every name signing the "punish rotten tomatoes for being mean to the DC universe" petitions was some flavor of Pedro or Pajeet.

There are a total of 3 great D.C. movies. Superman 1, 2, and The Dark Knight. (Begins and Rises are good)

 

[Creep3r]

It’s beyond me why he gets handed movies to ruin. It’s like Hollywood is run by idiots.

Idiots and corporate suits who seem to have no idea what the public actually wants due to being so out of touch with the rest of society. I think its called Ivory Tower syndrome.

Agree to disagree, then. I can laugh at cringe if I'm in the right mindset. It's part of why I enjoy 300. You couldn't pay me to watch an Abrams film.

True enough I guess, but personally the only "good" Snyder movie for me was 300. Outside of that, the only other Snyder movie I looked forward to was the Owl one and that was a shitty adaptation to say the least. In the end both Snyder and Abrams crap suffer from the same problem, they're all visuals with no substance, but Abrams goes the extra mile to be as lazy as possible with his garbage and substitutes any attempt at a plot with empty boxes that offer nothing, and when it comes time to open the boxes, it comes as no surprise that there was nothing in them so he just shoves boxes within boxes that still do nothing like he does for all of his crappy films. With Snyder at least the guy actually fills his boxes/plot with something before sending them out. I mean sure the boxes are always full of crap, but at least he bothered to fill them with something.

In the end, Snyder is basically just a slightly more offensive Michael Bay with more creative visuals I guess (Sucker Punch was an atrocious mess but the visuals were unique if nothing else). While Abrams is a shittier Michael Bay with even lazier visuals who thinks even less of his audiences and has never done anything unique or memorable in terms of plot or visuals outside of being known for obnoxious lens flares. Two sides of the same shitty coin I guess.

 

[Sped Xing]

I couldn't even laugh at 300. I would have walked out of it if it wern't for the fact my friend drove me there... and I had no other means to get home.

However, you can at least find something in 300 to laugh at. Art is 100% subjective.

300 was a dogshit comic book to begin with, so he was fighting an uphill battle.

Imagine trying to make the most totalitarian regime in recorded history out to be a bunch of freedom-loving American Snippres.

And if you're going to do the whole "make history palatable" route, why defame the Gerousia? It fails even as jingoistic propaganda.

 

[Kornula]

Last week, my roommmate and i watched "Jaws 4: the Revenge" wow..that is a huge stink pile of an excuse for a Hollywood produced movie. The Making of extra feature reveals that the head of Universal thought it would be easy to capture lightinging in a bottle twice (hey, Jaws II was a critical and box office "success" too right?) Sid Shyinberg called the director personally said he would give him free reign (what every director wants and needs) with casting, ..heck, every aspect of the film was tottally under control of the director... This call was in November of 1986. The catch was that the film had to be ready for theaters by summer of 1987. There was NO script at that moment. So the director found a writer... wrote the script in less than a month. They had to go with the first draft (and it really shows) and began shooting by January 1987.

This is the one time a Hollywood exceuctive started with giving the director full control from day one. Even total control of a shitty script will give you a shitty movie.. no matter how good the actors are (Michael Cain) Plus, you can edit shit down all you want, and if every frame is shit.. it will still be a shitty movie.

 

[Christ4President2024]

If you didn't enjoy 300 when it came out, you're a hater and there's no hope for you

 

[ReeferRoach]

To be fair, his primary genre (superhero movies) is played out and never was where to turn for good moviemaking in the first place.

This seems like a very reductive way to think. While I do agree that Zach Snyder an awful director, but most super hero movies are pretty mediocre if not bad; yet that doesn't mean the genre itself can't offer anything of substance. While looking at super hero movies as a whole it's probably a grey blob of 5/10 but, there happens to be quite a few of high quality films with in it. (Mainly older marvel films, because similarly to DC they have an addiction to hiring shitty directors)

 

[TheProdigalStunna]

I'll stand by his adaptation of Watchmen, particularly the Director's Cut version (the Ultimate Cut goes a little overboard, even though The Tale of the Black Freighter is cool on it's own.) Yes, there's no giant squid, and yes, the "Hallelujah" scene is an abomination, but I can't help but love the film for its maximalism. It's hard, back in 2009 or now, to find a major mainstream film with those kind of balls. And yes, I do think that the differences in the ending is an improvement in some regards. The characters willfully shouldering the burden of the truth (and Dr. Manhattan taking the blame for the destruction) adds a new layer of depth to their arcs, IMO. I haven't seen his cut of the Justice League yet, but if it's a fraction as interesting as his Watchmen adaptation was, that already puts it leagues ahead of any JJ Abrams, Joss Whedon, or MCU product.

 

[Mongo0o]

This sees like very reductive way to think. While I do agree that not only is Zach Snyder an awful director, but most super hero movies are pretty mediocre if not bad; yet that doesn't mean the genre itself can't offer anything of substance. While looking at super hero movies as a whole it's probably a grey blob of 5/10 there happens to be quite of few high quality films with in it. (Mainly older marvel films, because similarly to DC they have an addiction to hiring shitty directors)

No MCU movie has topped this scene

 

[Kornula]

Heck, I saw "Orca" with Richard Harris" when it came out in theaters..and I sat through all 2 hours of that pile of shit movie.

 

[haha fune sex numbr]

I'm not a fan a Snyder, but I'd rather watch a thousand hours of his retarded "Superman=Christ" movies than another MCU turd. Henry Cavill straining to give a shit about the pathetic bugmen below and then doing a big punch is infinitely more entertaining than your typical "I hope magic man overcomes his relatable flaws to save the day" plot.

I guess what I'm getting at is that at least his movies, shit as they are, have "soul" haha

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Sucker Punch pisses me off so much because it had potential. If it had just been about qt girls in skimpy outfits fighting shit, it would've been fun. However, he decided to make it 2deep4u and it sucks ass.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Sucker Punch pisses me off so much because it had potential. If it had just been about qt girls in skimpy outfits fighting shit, it would've been fun. However, he decided to make it 2deep4u and it sucks ass.

Would High School of the Dead be a better version of Sucker Punch? I've only seen hentai of it, so I don't actually know.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

No MCU movie has topped this scene

I am not sure if you are saying that's shit or good.

I don't think no supermovie has ever topped Spiderman 2.

The Best super hero movie of all time. Ever.

If it weren't for the fact that producers and Hollywood executives fucked up the third and handicapped Raimi from achieving triple glory kill, we would still be singing praises of spiderman franchise to this day.

 

[Xerxes IX]

Guardians of Ga'hoole was my favorite series as a kid. I'll never forgive this hack for making a story about violent owl wars cliche and boring.

Finally someone knows my pain. GoG was the patrician's Warrior Cats

 

[Kornula]

Now it's rumored Snyder is openly expressing his desire to ruin Frank Millers: "The Dark Knight Returns". The animated version is.. "eh" at best..but Snyder will suck all the life and joy out of it.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Was this thread specifically started to get that one guy who appeared in the RedLetterMedia thread to pitch a fit?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Snyder honestly only has any sort of clout because his fanboys say "A-AT LEAST IT'S NOT LIKE THE MCU!!!" as though it excuses Snyder's garbage to be good. Like damn he made the biggest blunder of a Superman ever with how he keeps treating Superman as a god which is absolute cringe especially with the forced religious dialogue and symbolism in his films. It's a shame too since Henry Cavill is a really great actor. It's also amazing how he managed to make a shit Batman in the same film where he acts like a complete retard.

 

[HiddenFist]

Snyder's movies as a whole aren't even that good to begin with. I get wanting competition to the MCU due to its problems, but giving us a movie where Superman has the charisma of a broken spoon, a Batman who acts like a damn idiot and as brutal as the criminals he goes after, and a billionaire who is more like Zuckerberg as opposed to being the Luthor we know. That's not including his shitty themes, terrible dialogue, and his tendencies to make extremely long cuts that have no chance of being seen in theaters.

The amount of people defending this dude is laughable, the dude literally helped build DCEU on a shitty foundation (the studio executives are more to blame imo) , only to have it come crashing down a few years later.

 

[White Devil]

I liked 300 and Watchmen. If you dislike the 300 movie, you wouldn't like the source material because the film is practically a 1:1 per page adaption of the movie with some added stuff for run time. At the time, 300 was pretty stylistically different and it's just entertaining to watch.

Watchmen just appeals to my 80s autism. It's funny because I was never a big fan of the source material, not clear reason why, but the film I can sit down and watch any time.

As others have said, Snyder is nowhere near as bad a JJ Abrams. JJ doesn't have a single good film and I believe his success is all due to luck and industry cocksucking.