War Zelenskyy offers to step down in exchange for peace and Ukraine’s Nato membership - "If it brings peace for Ukraine, if you really need me to leave my post, I’m ready."

President’s comment comes a day before third anniversary of Russia’s full-blown invasion of Ukraine​

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Christopher Miller in Kyiv an hour ago

Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said he is willing to step down as Ukraine’s president if it would secure lasting peace for his country.

“If it brings peace for Ukraine, if you really need me to leave my post, I’m ready. I can exchange it for Nato [membership],” Zelenskyy told reporters at a press conference in Kyiv on Sunday. “If such conditions exist [I will step down] immediately.”

Speaking ahead of the third anniversary of Russia’s full-blown invasion of Ukraine on Monday, Zelenskyy also said he wanted US President Donald Trump to be a close partner to Ukraine and not just a mediator between Kyiv and Moscow.

US and Russia officials last week agreed during their first high-level talks in Riyadh to “lay the groundwork for future co-operation” on ending the war and a normalisation of relations.

“I really want it to be more than just mediation [from Trump] . . . that’s not enough,” Zelenskyy said.

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Zigger cope is intense in this thread.

Putnigger made NATO stronger, EU increase in military, EU independence from vatnig resources, and for what? A few villagers where he can kidnap kids for his pedophile kabal?

You've lost me.

This conflict has been materially draining on Europe, has damaged their relationship with the US and the flood of Ukranians has become a cause of deep unrest in places like Ireland and Poland, two places they were initially very warmly welcomed.

Germany, the heart, brain and workhorse of the EU is in very uneasy form. Not only due to Ukraine, but it really hasn't helped.

The EU on a concerted effort to woo China after several public slapfights with American leaders isn't really great PR for NATO.

I'm not a fan of Putin. Russian demagogue antics never really go well for anyone on continental Europe or Central Asia, but there's no point denying the impact.
 
The one thing that has to be done is a security guarantee for Ukraine. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the newly-formed Russian Federation had to guarantee it would not invade Ukraine in exchange for the nukes it still had. Whatever you want to say about the USA, NATO, Ukraine, or Zelenskyy, the Russian Federation violated the Trilateral Statement of 1994. We can quibble about the details, but Russia still invaded a mere 20 years after signing that security guarantee. If Russia's word isn't worth anything, what are the rest of us supposed to do? Sit there and take it?
 
I can understand why some people are frustrated of Ukraine being denied NATO membership but why doesn't the EU vote to make Ukraine a member immediately?
 
You've lost me.

This conflict has been materially draining on Europe, has damaged their relationship with the US and the flood of Ukranians has become a cause of deep unrest in places like Ireland and Poland, two places they were initially very warmly welcomed.

Germany, the heart, brain and workhorse of the EU is in very uneasy form. Not only due to Ukraine, but it really hasn't helped.

The EU on a concerted effort to woo China after several public slapfights with American leaders isn't really great PR for NATO.

I'm not a fan of Putin. Russian demagogue antics never really go well for anyone on continental Europe or Central Asia, but there's no point denying the impact.
I didn't hear anything about the EU/US conflict before Trump decided to side with Russia completely.

And I think China/Russia meddling in Europe has been more detrimental than the Ukraine war.

I don't think Trump's withdrawal has anything to do with EU, but US might focus its strengths against BRICS.
 
(((Volodymyr Zelenskyy))) has said he is willing to step down as Ukraine’s president if it would secure lasting peace for his country.

“If it brings peace for Ukraine, if you really need me to leave my post, I’m ready. I can exchange it for Nato [membership],” Zelenskyy told reporters at a press conference in Kyiv on Sunday. “If such conditions exist [I will step down] immediately.”

Oh, you think you have the leverage to insist on conditions? Lol, no. You don't have any leverage now that Biden's gone. You can release the evidence on Dem politicians and money-laundering, then we can talk.
 
This conflict has been materially draining on Europe, has damaged their relationship with the US
The US damaged the relationship with Europe.
I can understand why some people are frustrated of Ukraine being denied NATO membership but why doesn't the EU vote to make Ukraine a member immediately?
There's a multi-year process that every country has to go through, doing things quickly is not the EU's forte. They've been accepted as a candidate country already.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Zelensky's continued leadership of Ukraine is completely irrelevant to this whole situation.
Was him leaving or remaining in power ever once even a part of any negotiations RE: the war?
Putin has repeatedly stated he considers Zelensky illegitimate and that Ukraine must have an election for any treaty to be accepted by Russia. So it's not directly part of the negotiations, but there's no chance the guy remains in charge if he gives in on that.
 
The one thing that has to be done is a security guarantee for Ukraine. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the newly-formed Russian Federation had to guarantee it would not invade Ukraine in exchange for the nukes it still had. Whatever you want to say about the USA, NATO, Ukraine, or Zelenskyy, the Russian Federation violated the Trilateral Statement of 1994. We can quibble about the details, but Russia still invaded a mere 20 years after signing that security guarantee. If Russia's word isn't worth anything, what are the rest of us supposed to do? Sit there and take it?
Israel signed a bunch of treaties under the guidance of several US presidents saying they wouldn't expand into Palestine and they did and still do to this day. Absolutely nobody gives a shit because Israel is supposedly this major strategic interest. Ukraine is not. It's a broke shithole halfway across the world and its sole purpose is it to drive a wedge between the US and Russia, pushing Russia and its enormous natural wealth into China's arms. The grift is over. You may seethe and cope but the "rest of us" are done sacrificing major national interests at the altar of fucking Ukraine. If you're a smaller weaker state, you should learn to play nice with your neighbors, not piss them off then scream victim. Canadians would do well to remember this as well.
 
The US damaged the relationship with Europe.
The EU spent less on this war then the US. An amount nearly double Ukraine's GDP in their best year ever. Now they want to cry that it was not enough and the slaughter must continue, but not on their dime. I know eurofags love dead Slavs almost as much as they love starting world wars over petty bullshit but god damn. An entire continent with a martyr complex crying that daddy took his credit card back.
 
Israel signed a bunch of treaties under the guidance of several US presidents saying they wouldn't expand into Palestine and they did and still do to this day. Absolutely nobody gives a shit because Israel is supposedly this major strategic interest. Ukraine is not. It's a broke shithole halfway across the world and its sole purpose is it to drive a wedge between the US and Russia, pushing Russia and its enormous natural wealth into China's arms. The grift is over. You may seethe and cope but the "rest of us" are done sacrificing major national interests at the altar of fucking Ukraine. If you're a smaller weaker state, you should learn to play nice with your neighbors, not piss them off then scream victim. Canadians would do well to remember this as well.
Comparing this situation to Israel is apples to oranges. After the fall of the Soviet Union, Ukraine had a number of nuclear weapons in its possession that it refused to give back to Russia because it did not trust that Russia would not simply invade the country and take it over again. Both Clinton and Yeltsin were dedicated to stopping the proliferation of nuclear weapons to ensure global security. The Trilateral Statement was all about getting nukes out of Ukraine in exchange for a security guarantee that the newly-independent Ukraine would not be invaded by a country that previously ruled it with an iron fist.

It's hardly seething and coping when you point out that the Russians reneged on their deal. Also, the Palestinians consistently renege on their truces with Israel and refuse to sign any peace agreements (including two state solutions) not resulting in the destruction of Israel (which is an unrealistic goal given Israel's prominence in the region), so that's not even a good comparison. Canada is not taking aid meant for building public water utilities and turning it into explosives to shoot over the border into the United States. Ukraine was not doing this to Russia prior to their soft invasion of Ukraine in 2014. The Ukrainians expelled Yanukovych and the Russians sent in mercenaries.

I know it's in vogue to be contrarian, but all you're doing is deliberately misunderstanding the reality of the situation in order to appear "cool" to strangers on the Internet.
 
So the distraction war is finally over? Cool, can we focus on American issues again? You know, the whole America First thing. Really think people should be looking at the Rothschild FED ponzi fraying at the edges, the ghost of 2008 rising from the grave... Gold and Silver rising... Elon's unquestioning pajeet replacements still being imported at replacement rates... the previously imported spics spreading drugs and sex trafficking across the nation... niggers still being here and not wakanda... All of Congress having AIPAC babysitters...

We have lots more pressing issues than eastern europe.
 
@Hey Johnny Bravo

Can't quote but yeah it's apples and oranges because greatest ally has also stolen its nuclear tech from us on top of continuous land grabs and treaty violations that as I mentioned absolutely nobody gives a shit about. But things always happen within a certain political context. There's tons of background info that debunks the idea that Russians decided to attack Ukraine one day for no reason at all on Tucker's channel for example. But I personally just don't care enough to look into it. I'm ready to never hear the word Ukraine again.
 
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@Hey Johnny Bravo

Can't quote but yeah it's apples and oranges because greatest ally has also stolen its nuclear tech from us on top of continuous land grabs and treaty violations that as I mentioned absolutely nobody gives a shit about. But things always happen within a certain political context. There's tons of background info that debunks the idea that Russians decided to attack Ukraine one day for no reason at all on Tucker's channel for example. But I personally just don't care enough to look into it. I'm ready to never hear the word Ukraine again.
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