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Spiffing Brit put out a new video about all the happenings with Youtube and he specifically calls out Second Wind and how they've been pushing the Youtube is dead thing and how they're wrong. For those who don't know Spiffing Brit is known for exploiting things, including the Youtube algorithm as he has done before with things like shorts to prove a point. He's generally a good source for things going on behind the scenes as a result of this because he enjoys playing with the system to figure out what's going on and how to mess with it.

The video boils down to it's normal to see a drop during this time of year, people are blaming the new system even though it's statistically insignificant, and so forth. Basically creators are grifting to beg for shekels on their patreons.

 
p1138 said:
And shit like that is why I'm not sure which of them wrote the line as Bennett was as retarded at the time(I haven't seen anything of his in years, and looking at his channel and the past couple years of videos it's still mainstream shit, and what looks like obviously weak takes such as complaining about chainsaw man 2 years ago, asking if inu yasha is "overhated" and other nonsense) as Filmbrain still is. Most of the CA people were fucking idiots who focused more on trying to get some "cool" lines into their review, than actually properly attempting to discuss the topic of their videos. While some of them actually "reviewed" shit and could give mostly surface level takes because it was about shit no one was ever going to watch(like most of the crap Brad Jones posted videos about), for every one of him you had 2-3 equivalents of Filmbrain, Bennett, and Obscurus Lupa posting "reviews" of fairly mainstream shit without doing a deep dive into the material or actually finding anything interesting to talk about regarding the background of the material like the people involved or production that they couldn't just pull from a wiki article today(and even back in 2010).
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In retrospect, even pre-2016 ZP had some "surface level takes". I mentioned this a while back in the thread--most of the stuff he talked about in, say, Hotline Miami 2, was stuff from the early levels. You'd think he'd have an issue with the Hawaii levels or that journalist guy since they play so differently from the original game. (I suspect for that review he actually might've "played" the vast majority of the game on YouTube).

I suspect that one reason he was so popular to begin with was the little Flash-style animation was a cool gimmick (ZP does seem to come from the Newgrounds-era Internet, at least culturally)...and on the subject of "doing stuff that no one else was doing at the time", I think James was the first gaming YouTuber with a wall of video game shit behind him and every soy-faced millennial with games and other shit behind him (including the inevitable Funko Pop) can be traced back to James.
 
Xarpho's Return said:
In retrospect, even pre-2016 ZP had some "surface level takes". I mentioned this a while back in the thread--most of the stuff he talked about in, say, Hotline Miami 2, was stuff from the early levels. You'd think he'd have an issue with the Hawaii levels or that journalist guy since they play so differently from the original game. (I suspect for that review he actually might've "played" the vast majority of the game on YouTube).
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I was just about to point that out, since his review of Batman Arkham Origins was flat out wrong: He thought the game was a SEQUEL when the whole point was that it was a PREQUEL, not to mention that he didn't even bother doing any exploration otherwise he would know the gameworld is slightly larger than Arkham City instead of slightly smaller. Granted, he knew about the final boss fight, but that just means he either saw a longplay on youtube or skipped every single side quest and just went for the story bits, very unprofessional. Reminds me of how he shit on Dark Souls in his review, but then became the biggest fan once the game actually took off, pretending to be a le hardcore gamer that loves challenging souls like ever since. He is a poser and a faker, no different from any other gaming "journalist".
Oh, and good luck knowing anything about the games he is "reviewing" just from his video. His Darksiders 2 one is the most egregious to me, you would never know that the game is a mix of various different titles all in one done rather well if you never watched someone else play it and would just think it's the most boring game in the world the way Yahtzee describes it. I noticed that he only reviews the most well known titles or some shitty indie games, never any RTS games or driving games or any AA games actual gamers would know about but normafags and casuals likely wouldn't.

Retink Retunk said:
Spiffing Brit put out a new video about all the happenings with Youtube and he specifically calls out Second Wind and how they've been pushing the Youtube is dead thing and how they're wrong. For those who don't know Spiffing Brit is known for exploiting things, including the Youtube algorithm as he has done before with things like shorts to prove a point. He's generally a good source for things going on behind the scenes as a result of this because he enjoys playing with the system to figure out what's going on and how to mess with it.

The video boils down to it's normal to see a drop during this time of year, people are blaming the new system even though it's statistically insignificant, and so forth. Basically creators are grifting to beg for shekels on their patreons.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MGTKaALdHzc
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Thumbnail in the video changed, in case you can't see it the video had The Second Wind crew, Mr. Beast and Linux Tips as well as RLM on it. I guess he took heat from it and had it removed.
 
30+GameOvers said:
was just about to point that out, since his review of Batman Arkham Origins was flat out wrong: He thought the game was a SEQUEL when the whole point was that it was a PREQUEL,
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How the fuck was that not the obvious likely thing considering "Origins" is in the damned name?
 
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I miss their chemistry, even if the leftoid virus was already present in their brains around 2015. I still remember Gabe calling Yahtz a fag and a fucking homo like it was nothing. It's still there for all to hear in one of their LDOs.
Surprisingly enough though, Yahtz hasn't made any comments regarding Charlie's murder, at least not on TroonSky (he doesn't use xitter anymore). Are SW livestream still a thing even? Maybe a superchat will goad him into a response?
 
Pierre D'Olnique said:
I miss their chemistry, even if the leftoid virus was already present in their brains around 2015. I still remember Gabe calling Yahtz a fag and a fucking homo like it was nothing. It's still there for all to hear in one of their LDOs.
Surprisingly enough though, Yahtz hasn't made any comments regarding Charlie's murder, at least not on TroonSky (he doesn't use xitter anymore). Are SW livestream still a thing even? Maybe a superchat will goad him into a response?
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Given the visceral horror of Kirk getting ventilated on camera, along with Yahtzee "safe-edgy" persona, it's only a matter of time until he makes some oblique reference to it in one of his tortured metaphors on the show.
 
Cloud Somersault said:
Given the visceral horror of Kirk getting ventilated on camera, along with Yahtzee "safe-edgy" persona, it's only a matter of time until he makes some oblique reference to it in one of his tortured metaphors on the show.
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Add onto that the "nerd" aspect and I can already see him making it into a Star Trek reference somehow, since it also had a Kirk.
 
Retink Retunk said:
Spiffing Brit put out a new video about all the happenings with Youtube and he specifically calls out Second Wind and how they've been pushing the Youtube is dead thing and how they're wrong. For those who don't know Spiffing Brit is known for exploiting things, including the Youtube algorithm as he has done before with things like shorts to prove a point. He's generally a good source for things going on behind the scenes as a result of this because he enjoys playing with the system to figure out what's going on and how to mess with it.

The video boils down to it's normal to see a drop during this time of year, people are blaming the new system even though it's statistically insignificant, and so forth. Basically creators are grifting to beg for shekels on their patreons.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MGTKaALdHzc
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I can say that YouTube has started consistently recommending me sub 10K channels so it's likely that those "never punching down" channels finally get what they preached.

30+GameOvers said:
Thumbnail in the video changed, in case you can't see it the video had The Second Wind crew, Mr. Beast and Linux Tips as well as RLM on it. I guess he took heat from it and had it removed.
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"No don't say mean thing about those poor indie 500k sub channels!"
 
Cloud Somersault said:
Yahtzee and Gabe put me in mind of Mark and Jez from Peep Show.

Yahtzee is the affluent one who attempts to escape the quotidian humdrum of the day job over and over but is foiled at every turn. Even a decade ago he was saying “ZP won’t be around forever” and flat-out stating he’d prefer to be a full-time novelist or game dev. Neither of these has or will ever pan out. Instead, he is reduced to grubbing for shekels from ManRaped and whining about muh algo while being taken advantage of by everyone around him because he is a bona-fide social retard.

I guarantee some part of him dies with every knob gag he’s still making, but he has to lean into the “comedy” schtick because it’s too late for his sincere work to be taken seriously.

Gabe is the slacker with pretensions of depth, spirituality, and escaping the Kali Yuga thru pure refinement of body and mind. Despite achieving nothing (a point Yahtz-Mark is keen to lord over him), he continues larping as a cultivated, golden pill chugging nigger. And while in your late twenties, it might be excusable to have only just woken up to the fact your life is slipping away and you’ve achieved nothing, in your forties it’s a lot less “charming gen X rebel” and more “sad homeless future suicide or basket case.”

And, like Jez, Gabe eventually goes gay (or whatever the fuck he’s doing with Aaron on KeepEtFaggy).

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That's really well put. And like @The tired cat said, his books and games really are shit.

Yahtzee is something of a relic at this point. The glory days of the early 2010s are long gone, and he should probably start dipping into, I don't know, HVAC or something. He has been extremely fortunate to live such a comfy life, getting paid to do the same shit he did as a teenager well into middle age, but he's an artfag, and I know his ass needs a backup plan. It is bewildering to me that he hasn't burned out yet.
 
Retink Retunk said:
Spiffing Brit put out a new video about all the happenings with Youtube and he specifically calls out Second Wind and how they've been pushing the Youtube is dead thing and how they're wrong.
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MMORPG cuck (who has a better game retrospective channel, imo) JoshStrifeHayes put out a rebuttal video:

I haven't watched any of these except for the initial Second Wind begfest as I genuinely don't care about this enough so enjoy corroborating the data, kiwi bros.
 
Tommy John Surgery said:
MMORPG cuck (who has a better game retrospective channel, imo) JoshStrifeHayes put out a rebuttal video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YX1eEe8erkQ
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YouTube civil war; Grifter Vs Grifter. They probably have done something to the algorithm but I don't really care, I keep seeing funny people with 0 views on my feed. 2 African men trying to make a podcast on $0.00 in the middle of a civil war is infinitely more entertaining then anything these content creators could produce.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I can say that YouTube has started consistently recommending me sub 10K channels so it's likely that those "never punching down" channels finally get what they preached.
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I did notice Youtube recommend smaller channels, old videos (as in years old), and foreign language channels that are AI translated but in the area of interests I have. I don't think this really harms existing channels as some of those old videos are from them, and I still get recommended their content, but now I just have more options to pick from if I want to.

Tommy John Surgery said:
MMORPG cuck (who has a better game retrospective channel, imo) JoshStrifeHayes put out a rebuttal video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YX1eEe8erkQ
I haven't watched any of these except for the initial Second Wind begfest as I genuinely don't care about this enough so enjoy corroborating the data, kiwi bros.
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I think Josh exposes the grift here without realizing it. His whole statement is that computer based views are down specifically but his income hasn't changed, when all the kvetching and bitching is that creators are making less money because less views. Even in his videos I think a point he makes is that newer creators are hit most by this change as they don't have enough to survive down periods, but if he's saying he's still making the same amount with less views, as is everyone as he seems to imply, then all the begging and whining is meaningless.
 
don't not shoot the Press said:
YouTube civil war; Grifter Vs Grifter. They probably have done something to the algorithm but I don't really care, I keep seeing funny people with 0 views on my feed. 2 African men trying to make a podcast on $0.00 in the middle of a civil war is infinitely more entertaining then anything these content creators could produce.
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That is kind of what I thought.

On one hand they probably did change the algorithm so that Second Wind, Linus Tech Tips, and RLM took a tumble, but on the other hand these creators aren't losing as much money as they claim, are blaming the wrong things, and are kind of long in the tooth anyway.
 
Xarpho's Return said:
In retrospect, even pre-2016 ZP had some "surface level takes". I mentioned this a while back in the thread--most of the stuff he talked about in, say, Hotline Miami 2, was stuff from the early levels.
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I distinctly remember him whining about dying in one hit to the first (only) boss battle in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, then rage quitting after only one attempt. This was right in the middle of his Dark Souls fanboy shit, where he would constantly compare its boss battles to "ramming your head against a wall until it eventually cracks and falls". Stopped watching him then and there. The boss was easy as fuck if you got that far, too.
 
The Secret Sauce said:
I distinctly remember him whining about dying in one hit to the first (only) boss battle in Kingdom Come: Deliverance, then rage quitting after only one attempt. This was right in the middle of his Dark Souls fanboy shit, where he would constantly compare its boss battles to "ramming your head against a wall until it eventually cracks and falls". Stopped watching him then and there. The boss was easy as fuck if you got that far, too.
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He also rage quit Desperados 3 because the game had him do many saves an reloads when he'd get caught on enemy view cones.
 
Pissmaster said:
It is bewildering to me that he hasn't burned out yet.
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He has been phoning it in for a while now, which is what a lot of posts ITT are about. I know James Rolfe has been brought up in this thread--he hasn't been consistent but has adapted better to modern YouTube, and overall a much better person in almost every metric...but one thing James has and Yahtzee doesn't is imitators. YouTube is full of people who wanted to become the next Doug or James and copied their formats pretty closely but no one seems to have really done what Yahtzee did with animation, even simple stuff (and it is very simple, there's almost no actual animation, just frames of copy-and-pasted stuff). Sure, there are people with little animated avatars that can change expressions but you'd think there'd be more not-ZP videos covering video games that use something similar and not just stock photos like a lot of YouTubers tend to do on a wide variety of subjects.
 
Xarpho's Return said:
He has been phoning it in for a while now, which is what a lot of posts ITT are about. I know James Rolfe has been brought up in this thread--he hasn't been consistent but has adapted better to modern YouTube, and overall a much better person in almost every metric...but one thing James has and Yahtzee doesn't is imitators. YouTube is full of people who wanted to become the next Doug or James and copied their formats pretty closely but no one seems to have really done what Yahtzee did with animation, even simple stuff (and it is very simple, there's almost no actual animation, just frames of copy-and-pasted stuff). Sure, there are people with little animated avatars that can change expressions but you'd think there'd be more not-ZP videos covering video games that use something similar and not just stock photos like a lot of YouTubers tend to do on a wide variety of subjects.
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Because the gimmick was more of the speaking without pause and making snarky comments, rather than the drawings(doodles at best). And considering even Yahtzee's falling popularity there probably wouldn't be much interest in it especially if they just copied him. There was also manic fast talking youtube idiot as a "genre" that people were already tired of by the time yahtzee gained any popularity anyway.
 
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